sdb Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 I'm not saying we should play that formation every week, but i thought it was perfect for a tough away game
Thracian Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 Lets be fair Thrac, it's about time we had some good luck. Couldn't agree more and I've mentioned the likes of Ipswich elsewhere today when they were gifted the away game against us by a diabolical decision. Furthermore I hope and believe that this sizeable ladle of luck can help convince the manager and players that the world isn't always against us and that we really do have enough to take on any Championship club and beat them given the right attitude. Biggest thing apart for me today, apart from the sending off, was Holloway's mention of endless shooting practice and the training ground attention to dead ball kicks. Earlier this week I suggested we were getting beaten because we were failing to pay attention to detail and gave an alphabet full of things we could improve on. That we did spend times on specific skills clearly paid dividends today. First goal was from a set piece and we had players generally shooting with much greater accuracy, frequency and confidence. I've mentioned Howard elsewhere but was also especially pleased for Mattock and McAuley, the former because he's proved to himself today that he can contribute to scoring goals and McAuley because it's been time he made his presence felt again in the attacking box. That means there were two goals therefore which involved people from areas which haven't been contributing goals and I think Oakley/Fryatt were involved in the build-up to another. Life is a damn sight easier when it's not all down to the strikers and today's outcome illustrated that.
C-man Posted 16 March 2008 Posted 16 March 2008 So here we are again....I won't be going to WBA tomorrow, as much as it's an easy trip by train from here. I've only missed one game since mid-December which is by far my best ever run of games and I've only seen one away win in that time. I can't justify the money to go to WBA after making the trip to Southampton in midweek. That's probably it for me for a couple of weeks. I've invested so much effort, emotion and of course money in this lot over the last few weeks, over this season, over the past 18 years, that I feel like I need a holiday from it. I'm going to stay home tomorrow and watch the rugby with a few beers. ...I'm not optimistic. Once I'd read that on Friday, I thought 'I bet we win tomorrow and this post will be the reason we will win' Then I felt sorry for Fez once I remembered the post when we were winning 4-1.
dandannieldanok Posted 16 March 2008 Posted 16 March 2008 what do the 97 of you that want rid of Ollie think now?? Genuinely interested in your thoughts. I still support my vote, despite yesterday his record since joining us is disappointing to say the least.
Uncle Albert Posted 16 March 2008 Posted 16 March 2008 I still support my vote, despite yesterday his record since joining us is disappointing to say the least. Ollie deserves his job at Leicester, for the shit he has picked up he has done ok. Better than what Ince, Dowie, Coleman and all the other half wits people wanted on here.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 16 March 2008 Posted 16 March 2008 Once I'd read that on Friday, I thought 'I bet we win tomorrow and this post will be the reason we will win' Then I felt sorry for Fez once I remembered the post when we were winning 4-1. I don't mind taking one for the team.
Rt Hon Percy Longprong Posted 13 April 2008 Posted 13 April 2008 what do the 97 of you that want rid of Ollie think now?? Genuinely interested in your thoughts. Ermmmm..............
BigGibbo Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 We have no choice but to keep him in my opinion we would get no one better if we sacked him & we would end up going through another season identical to this all over again. I'm not sure if he's good enough to get us promoted from the championship but thats not even on my mind anymore for the near future, just establishing Leicester as an above average tidy championship side is what we need & Holloways good enough to do that. Or if we do go down getting us promoted from league one is what we need & Holloways good enough to do that so lets just steady the ship I say.
Chrysalis Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 I am now with the get him out brigade, hes making to many basic errors such as not starting the top scorer up front, delaying subs too long and not fixing the problem of players been static when we have the ball.
Thracian Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 There are so many reasons to doubt Holloway. a) His media quotes have been disastrous at times. Public criticism of the players, remarks that contradict themselves, comments that serve to inspire the opposition, quips that open him up to ridicule. b) His tactics are often hard to comprehend. Changes made far too late on Saturday, our pissing about at the end against Charlton, being far too cautious at Blackpool and Southampton. Generally the guy is far too cautious. c) Connected to the above is our failure to address technical shortcoming and to voluntarily reduce our capability in this department. Allowing by far our best dead ball kicker to go elsewhere when we had no replacement, having no-one attack the near post at set plays and generally, failing to support fast enough and in sufficient numbers, failing to maintain width, failing to pick players of sufficient pace to cause problems, putting up with poor distribution from the back. Again, the list goes on. d) Even with his own players results have been lamentable. Worse even than Kelly and Levein especially considering the resouces he's had. e) Fringe players have been allowed to lose match fitness. There is no excuse for that. f) The ability to get the best out of people is a vital quality in a good manager yet only Stearman has achieved a consistently high standard during Holloway's term. g) His blinkered preference for experience over youth might be okay at some clubs but not at a club with one of the best youth teams in the land. I doubt the manager will have endeared himself to people like Wesolowski, Shush! or King and, though not Holloway's fault, the club's decision to do without Gradel was plain daft. Mattock too is in and out of the side like a piston and that is no way to build confidence. That will do for now. The consequences are there to see.
Daggers Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 A quite substancial majority vote for Ollie to stay is interesting - it clearly illustrates the chasm of difference between a set of fans and the bulk of City supporters. not only that, but I'm pushed to remember a poll that has had so many people voting in it. Ollie supporters are clearly vocal at matches, and the away support seems to be a concentrated collection of IH fans. Considering the ones demanding him to go tend to be posting frequently abusive posts I'm wondering what can be done to bring these people back on board? (Besides ignoring them until we start winning on a regular basis and they start to claim that they were always behind him) Not only that, but the crap venom seems really misplaced when directed at a man with integrity and honesty such as he - Thracian has made one of the few coherent 'anti' posts. I'd be really interested to see how this support for Ollie holds up over the next three weeks - would it be possible to run these polls as closed threads? Needless to say - I wanted him to stay last week, I want him to stay today - and I'm hoping he is here this time next season, whichever league we are in. Ollie's Army!
teblin Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 I have been all for ollie staying, but little thing are starting to get too me. He had been banging on about balance for months and then still plays strikers on the wing. the fact he says the following: "People talk about a crisis and that this club has never been there before - it is all rubbish. " Why is it rubbish? It is a crisis (in terms of football) and we have never been outside the 2 division its fact.
hazytex Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 Holloway should have been history weeks ago. Reality check please, this Club will never move in the right direction with him in charge. The worlds gone mad - wood and trees comes to mind - some people are obviously happy with mediocrity, inept performances and continued decline but if they want my ST money next season that man has to go.
renards Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 Go ASAP. All is not rosy A experienced fringe Midfield player with a foreign sounding name left the training ground last week in a hurry Stopped at the gates to tell fans (locked out) that Hollow was clueless, doesn't know what he's doing etc + hasn't give me a chance. The player was complaining that 'when we go down' he will get a 25% pay cut, pizzed off because he's not been playing so its been out of his hands. May just be having a strop or may be that the managers a loon.
davieG Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 Go ASAP.All is not rosy A experienced fringe Midfield player with a foreign sounding name left the training ground last week in a hurry Stopped at the gates to tell fans (locked out) that Hollow was clueless, doesn't know what he's doing etc + hasn't give me a chance. The player was complaining that 'when we go down' he will get a 25% pay cut, pizzed off because he's not been playing so its been out of his hands. May just be having a strop or may be that the managers a loon. On the one hand it's nice to know that 25% pay cuts are in hand, did they know something but if it's Radostin Kishishev then sour grapes is as likely as Holloway being clueless.
teblin Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 On the one hand it's nice to know that 25% pay cuts are in hand, did they know something but if it's Radostin Kishishev then sour grapes is as likely as Holloway being clueless. both
maddog Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 There are so many reasons to doubt Holloway.a) His media quotes have been disastrous at times. Public criticism of the players, remarks that contradict themselves, comments that serve to inspire the opposition, quips that open him up to ridicule. b) His tactics are often hard to comprehend. Changes made far too late on Saturday, our pissing about at the end against Charlton, being far too cautious at Blackpool and Southampton. Generally the guy is far too cautious. c) Connected to the above is our failure to address technical shortcoming and to voluntarily reduce our capability in this department. Allowing by far our best dead ball kicker to go elsewhere when we had no replacement, having no-one attack the near post at set plays and generally, failing to support fast enough and in sufficient numbers, failing to maintain width, failing to pick players of sufficient pace to cause problems, putting up with poor distribution from the back. Again, the list goes on. d) Even with his own players results have been lamentable. Worse even than Kelly and Levein especially considering the resouces he's had. e) Fringe players have been allowed to lose match fitness. There is no excuse for that. f) The ability to get the best out of people is a vital quality in a good manager yet only Stearman has achieved a consistently high standard during Holloway's term. g) His blinkered preference for experience over youth might be okay at some clubs but not at a club with one of the best youth teams in the land. I doubt the manager will have endeared himself to people like Wesolowski, Shush! or King and, though not Holloway's fault, the club's decision to do without Gradel was plain daft. Mattock too is in and out of the side like a piston and that is no way to build confidence. That will do for now. The consequences are there to see. Ollie just has to go. Why does he stick through certain players thick and thin like Howard, Oakley, Hayles, yet other players, good players for me, like King Bori and Zsolt get no chances and are just thrown on the scrapheap. It wouldn't surprise me if Bori was actually a world class, top quality player, yet Ollie is just too clueless to pick him. And if Bori and Zsolt are shit then why the fook did Ollie sign them? So many questions have to be asked of Ollie, he for me has been a useless manager. He makes changes way too late, Mcauley would do a better job of being a target man than Howard, fact, so why didn't Ollie bring Mcauley on 20 minutes earlier on Saturday. If he had we would have won the game. He is just fooking clueless with his selections and tactics, he sticks with certain players through thick and thin, yet gives others no chance at all. If i was Milan i would sack him now and get Walsh and Taggs in for the last 3 games, why not? then look to get a new manager next season. Ollie for me has been worser than Kelly, Levein, Megson, Allen, everyone. Id even say he was just as bad as Taylor and if we do go down, Ollie will be officially the worst manager we have ever had in my view. What has he achieved in other jobs? Fook all. He has been useless for months, he continues to talk shit in the media, he continues to pick the wrong players, he is either thick not to pick King, Zsolt, Bori, etc or thick for signing poor players in the first place. Ollie OUT!
WetFlannel Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 So in the time we need most to stick together, we sack a manager. How does that help? It will only cause MORE unrest in the squad, which is only going to drop us further into the relegation zone.
maddog Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 So in the time we need most to stick together, we sack a manager. How does that help? It will only cause MORE unrest in the squad, which is only going to drop us further into the relegation zone. The squad are just shit at football, if we can be stopped from going down or at least go down with a fight by getting rid of Ollie we might aswell.
scinnell Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 Simple question sorry people have answered this question a million times but this is an awful position we're in now i cant stay faithful to this tactically inept joker. ill keep him till crimbo personally to bring in his summer players
General lee Posted 14 April 2008 Posted 14 April 2008 ill keep him till crimbo personally to bring in his summer players WHY ?! He's brought in his players and they haven't work have they ? Get rid now so we can get a new manager in and he can have a real Pre Season and a real shake up. Ollie is a media tart who loves himself to much and when we our losing is nowhere to be seen because he is a spineless twat.
Ultra Posted 15 April 2008 Posted 15 April 2008 Holloway should have been history weeks ago. Reality check please, this Club will never move in the right direction with him in charge. The worlds gone mad - wood and trees comes to mind - some people are obviously happy with mediocrity, inept performances and continued decline but if they want my ST money next season that man has to go. A conclusion many other fans will reach. That's why Mandaric will have to get rid, even if we somehow stay up. Holloway cannot be trusted to take this club forward.
Ultra Posted 15 April 2008 Posted 15 April 2008 A quite substancial majority vote for Ollie to stay is interesting - it clearly illustrates the chasm of difference between a set of fans and the bulk of City supporters. not only that, but I'm pushed to remember a poll that has had so many people voting in it.Ollie supporters are clearly vocal at matches, and the away support seems to be a concentrated collection of IH fans. Considering the ones demanding him to go tend to be posting frequently abusive posts I'm wondering what can be done to bring these people back on board? (Besides ignoring them until we start winning on a regular basis and they start to claim that they were always behind him) Not only that, but the crap venom seems really misplaced when directed at a man with integrity and honesty such as he - Thracian has made one of the few coherent 'anti' posts. I'd be really interested to see how this support for Ollie holds up over the next three weeks - would it be possible to run these polls as closed threads? Needless to say - I wanted him to stay last week, I want him to stay today - and I'm hoping he is here this time next season, whichever league we are in. Ollie's Army! Holloway "a man with integrity and honesty"? Tell that to the Plymouth fans... It would be interesting to see how many of those calling for him to stay have actually reached voting age..
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