Hollohead quite possibly the worst of all time

[Thracian]

you're not the only one ;

some wag on bentleys roof feels the same

http://www.fansonline.net/leicestercity/article.php?id=284

I hadn't seen that but MM has got two choices. Do something or do nothing. If Holloway's team peppered the Hull goal and showed they had something about them, fair enough. But they didn't. I don't understand why he'd appoint Dowie but I well understand him doing something after that and so many other uninspired performances.

[Matt]

This might seem like a rash statement, but I think Holloway gives any terrible manager a run for his money. He continues to blame his players time and time again, but he NEVER holds his hands up, does he?

I am sick and tired of this rubbish Leicester side and Milan must act now, surely and fool can see that.

So tell me what did Martin Allen (Although I did and still do think he would have done a good job here, but lets not go over old ground) do with these players? What did Gary Megson do with these players? What has Ian Holloway done with these players?

Coincidence? Or are they all shit managers, not getting the best out of the players? If thats the case which is possible surly that points the finger at Milan (Who people are pointing the finger at)

On the other hand and this is only my opinion (And probably a few thousand would join me) I think we just have shite players.

[Thracian]

So tell me what did Martin Allen (Although I did and still do think he would have done a good job here, but lets not go over old ground) do with these players? What did Gary Megson do with these players? What has Ian Holloway done with these players?

Coincidence? Or are they all shit managers, not getting the best out of the players? If thats the case which is possible surly that points the finger at Milan (Who people are pointing the finger at)

On the other hand and this is only my opinion (And probably a few thousand would join me) I think we just have shite players.

Ian Holloway hasn't got anything like the same players as Allen and Megson.

Howard, Etuhu, Clapham, Hendrie, Oakley, Hayles, were all his own players. Clemence was almost universally hailed as a good player when he arrived and Campbell too by many.

Laczko and Bori were his too but they seem to have been sidelined.

The team selection was his and the tactics were his.

[Narborough Bod]

What has that respose got to do with my post?

When did I say we are a big 'team' who are not crap + are in a false position

Clown

What would you class as a big team. I agree and think we have punched above our weight recently.

however,

our average attendances this season of £23k would put us 21st (above Wigan, Pompey and Bolton - below Leeds),

we have a chairman who obviously does have some cash, if slightly hot.

We are 10th in terms of Wembley appearances with 11 since 1923 (and 7 of these have been in the last 15 years)

So are we actually a big club? In which case the players deserve an even bigger kicking for not realising???

[filbertway]

Ian Holloway hasn't got anything like the same players as Allen and Megson.

Campbell, Howard, Etuhu, Clapham, Hendrie, Oakley, Hayles, Clemence were all his own players.

Laczko and Bori were his too but they seem to have been sidelined.

The team selection was his and the tactics were his.

[maddog]

According to some un official Cov website Dowie could be in charge as early as Monday.

Last throw of the dice really, i can't see us staying up under Ollie.

I don't know what he was doing at Plymouth, why can't he just do the same at Leicester?

The players obviously aren't motivated, Ollie doesn't seem to have much passion.

Phil Brown was calling Stearman a nobhead which i agreed with a little , shushing at the Leicester fans, and going fooking crazy when Hull scored, that was passion.

Ollie was sitting down most of the time, and when he should have been on the touchline screaming into his under performing players trying to get them up for it, he just stood there silent with his hands in his pockets.

If a penalty save can't get the players up for it i don't know what will.

Id also like to say the fans were awful. I moved to the Hospitality area for free for the game and realised how quiet they all are. Apart from L1 and a very small fraction of the Kop i didn't hear any Leicester fans.

Everyone at the sides just sat there in silent, all i could hear was the Hull fans who were extremely loud.

What sort of message is getting sent to the players if Ollie isn't given them any guidance just standing there with his hands in his pockets and all they can hear are crazy Hull fans?

Not the right message.

I just don't understand most of the Leicester fans, well over 25,000 of them sat there in silence all game, and what really pisses me off is when fans leave 10 minutes early. I don't know why they bother going.

[FilboFox]

What has that respose got to do with my post?

When did I say we are a big 'team' who are not crap + are in a false position

Clown

Clown...

[Thracian]

[filbertway]

Put it down to the stress caused by watching them

[Daggers]

I am merely trying to put across my annoyance at your posts as I just get frustrated by them and how negative they are!

If that was your aim then you really ought to respond to my posts directly rather than other people's...the post of yours I commented on was one you wrote to Alexie.

Keep up - if you are going to spend your time trying to wind people up then you really need to pay more attention.

[C-man]

If Dowie becomes our new manager, fuck it all.

[Thracian]

If Dowie becomes our new manager, fuck it all.

If it happens it'll be another thing to blame Holloway for.

It certainly wouldn't be my decision.

[C-man]

If it happens it'll be another thing to blame Holloway for.

It certainly wouldn't be my decision.

I just don't see what he would give us that Holloway can't.

If Ollie is sacked, I can't name one manager that I'd be confident of keeping us up.

[Lineker's Left Foot]

I just don't see what he would give us that Holloway can't.

If Ollie is sacked, I can't name one manager that I'd be confident of keeping us up.

Agree completely AND Dowie is not the answer either

[Legend_in_blue]

Dowie can bugger off.

The only option I see is Billy Davies.

But I don't want to see IH going anywhere.

I can't see how you can blame him when one week we've made WBA look pants and then the next, with the same team, look as if we'd struggle to score again this season.

The players have a lot to answer for. In my opinion some of them are a disgrace. At least show some passion and commitment to the cause. The inconsistency for me is fast becoming inexcusable.

MM also is to blame for our current predicament. IH is the man in the middle, and as such, an easy target. Shame really. I don't blame him one bit.

[ASH17LCFC]

I've said all along that Ollie wasn't good enough. Yesterday prove it with his no brain tactics.

No to Dowie

YES to Davies

[Thracian]

I just don't see what he would give us that Holloway can't.

If Ollie is sacked, I can't name one manager that I'd be confident of keeping us up.

As I've mentioned previously, Taggart/Beaglehole would be the sensible decision at least until our fate is known. People who already know and work with the players and know the club.

If they fail, which I don't think they would , then we'd be able to make a considered appointment before the new season starts, and one that's appropriate to our status.

[Ultra]

I just don't see what he would give us that Holloway can't.

If Ollie is sacked, I can't name one manager that I'd be confident of keeping us up.

With the run-in that we (and others) have, there are at least a dozen managers currently out of work who have enough about them to keep this team up.

That's enough reason to bring one of them in and ship Holloway out.

[l444ry]

With the run-in that we (and others) have, there are at least a dozen managers currently out of work who have enough about them to keep this team up.

That's enough reason to bring one of them in and ship Holloway out.

Trouble is that Mandaric would pick the thirteenth, Ultra.

[C-man]

Dowie can bugger off.

The only option I see is Billy Davies.

But I don't want to see IH going anywhere.

I can't see how you can blame him when one week we've made WBA look pants and then the next, with the same team, look as if we'd struggle to score again this season.

The players have a lot to answer for. In my opinion some of them are a disgrace. At least show some passion and commitment to the cause. The inconsistency for me is fast becoming inexcusable.

MM also is to blame for our current predicament. IH is the man in the middle, and as such, an easy target. Shame really. I don't blame him one bit.

I agree with most of this post, except the bit about not blaming Ollie one bit. He has to take some of the criticism directed at him, but I hardly think he deserves some of the shit that's been spouted on this messageboard. We could do a lot worse, after all.

No to Dowie

YES to Davies

Davies is possibly the only contender that would give me any hope for the future. I saw him speaking on Goals on Sunday this morning about Derby and how he thought they went up too early in their 3 year plan. Mandaric had a similar 3 year plan, but it has been ludicrous so far with the amount of Managerial changes. How on earth are we supposed to improve by changing the man in charge every 4 months?

As I've mentioned previously, Taggart/Beaglehole would be the sensible decision at least until our fate is known. People who already know and work with the players and know the club.

If they fail, which I don't think they would , then we'd be able to make a considered appointment before the new season starts, and one that's appropriate to our status.

If Ollie were to go, that is a very sensible suggestion Thrac.

With the run-in that we (and others) have, there are at least a dozen managers currently out of work who have enough about them to keep this team up.

That's enough reason to bring one of them in and ship Holloway out.

Like who exactly? Who are these dozen managers who would be able to work miracles and keep us up? They are out of work for a reason. Holloway is not the messiah, although I'd love for him to stay and be a success, but I see can't see any positive effect occuring if we get rid.

Trouble is that Mandaric would pick the thirteenth, Ultra.

Blimey, don't encourage Ultra!

[Ultra]

I agree with most of this post, except the bit about not blaming Ollie one bit. He has to take some of the criticism directed at him, but I hardly think he deserves some of the shit that's been spouted on this messageboard. We could do a lot worse, after all.

I don't see how. Holloway's been given massive support by board and fans alike and done absolutely bugger all with it. The inability to string two wins (or even two decent performances) together is an embarassment of the highest order.

Davies is possibly the only contender that would give me any hope for the future. I saw him speaking on Goals on Sunday this morning about Derby and how he thought they went up too early in their 3 year plan. Mandaric had a similar 3 year plan, but it has been ludicrous so far with the amount of Managerial changes. How on earth are we supposed to improve by changing the man in charge every 4 months?

Davies (or even David Kelly) could do a job for us, but backers should take note of a post that appeared recently from a Derby fan on another board.

We laughed at PNE fans when they warned us of BD. We now agree with them.

If the truth is in the public domain then it might go something like this....

BD allegedly engineers his departure from PNE to join Derby because the club refused to let him talk to us. This just a year after he used DCFC to engineer a pay rise at PNE. Comments he made when he left infuriated PNE fans

Derby win the playoffs and, when climbing the steps to get his medal, BD wishes it was with PNE........ and later says it to a journo.....

BD gets a pay rise and contract extension. He then goes off on holiday. On his return he brings in just about all of his old PNE staff.

BD fails to get (m)any (??) of the 75 genuine PL class players the club went for pre season. Offers made to clubs undervalue players (3.5M for Kenwynne Jones who went for 5. 4 for Nugent who went for 6 and we eventually offered Pompey SEVEN !!)). Offers made to players are said to be below par for the PL.

Derby perform badly, time and again

BD finally gets Ned Kelly in to add to the myriad of ex-Preston/Scotland backroom staff we already have. One of whom is BD's brother as Reserve Team Manager.....

BD repeatedly says things to the press about his relationship with the Chaiman that the Chair says arent true

Derby and BD agree to go their separate ways. It was around this time that he put his Wembley "wish it was PNE" thoughts into the public domain.

BD has apparently not applied for any of the jobs that have become vacant, he is waiting for a club to call him.....

Many DCFC and PNE fans thank Billy for the relative success he brought them but both sets of fans are of the opinion (rightly or wrongly) that BD does what's best for BD and if that also happens to be good for the club then that is a bonus.

I think that a lot of my guesstimate is at least close enough or not a million miles off. Shame really, I had an hour and a half talking to the guy just 12 months ago. He was infectious, abrasive, amusing, knowledgeable, ambitious and seemed an A1 good guy who is besotted by the game. Where did it all go wrong?

The latter question is one many City fans have been asking about our current boss for some time. He may be a top bloke, but his management skills have been found wanting here.

If Ollie were to go, that is a very sensible suggestion Thrac.

But both Beaglehole and Taggart have already had caretaker roles this season, without a great deal of success. Remember the Burnley home game?

Like who exactly? Who are these dozen managers who would be able to work miracles and keep us up? They are out of work for a reason. Holloway is not the messiah, although I'd love for him to stay and be a success, but I see can't see any positive effect occuring if we get rid.

It wouldn't be a miracle to keep us up. We play four teams in the bottom eight, and even the two others fixtures are winnable. With the quality within our squad, a manager of reasonable competence should be able to ensure survival.

Blimey, don't encourage Ultra!

[davieG]

Many DCFC and PNE fans thank Billy for the relative success he brought them but both sets of fans are of the opinion (rightly or wrongly) that BD does what's best for BD and if that also happens to be good for the club then that is a bonus.

Err is that so strange I would think that would apply to any normal person in life.

[Geo V]

There is no denying that IH hasn't impressed thus far but I can only look at Plymouth and say that he must know a bit about the game, especially as they are doing OK after selling some of there better players. Success doesn't occur over night and although he has had time to get his influence across I would like to reserve judgment until he has had a pre-season and the chance to start with none of this mental scaring that he has inherited when coming to us.

BTW, two words regarding the topic title.

DAVID PLEAT

[Ultra]

There is no denying that IH hasn't impressed thus far but I can only look at Plymouth and say that he must know a bit about the game, especially as they are doing OK after selling some of there better players. Success doesn't occur over night and although he has had time to get his influence across I would like to reserve judgment until he has had a pre-season and the chance to start with none of this mental scaring that he has inherited when coming to us.

BTW, two words regarding the topic title.

DAVID PLEAT

Pleat > Holloway.

I'm not sure Holloway's descended to Taylor/McLintock depths yet though..

[Fox You Forest]

Pleat > Holloway.

I'm not sure Holloway's descended to Taylor/McLintock depths yet though..

If we were playing Coalville Town in 4 or 5 years time it wouldnt be possible to sink to those depths