Hollohead quite possibly the worst of all time

[ibbosuk]

This might seem like a rash statement, but I think Holloway gives any terrible manager a run for his money. He continues to blame his players time and time again, but he NEVER holds his hands up, does he?

I am sick and tired of this rubbish Leicester side and Milan must act now, surely and fool can see that.

RatBoy still has someway to go to catch up with the worst ever city manager P.Taylor imo...

But all he needs from us is time.....a few more £'s from MM...and a 1st ever dip into Div 1...and BINGO he'll be NO.1 in my book.........

[Father Ted]

I just don't see what he would give us that Holloway can't.

If Ollie is sacked, I can't name one manager that I'd be confident of keeping us up.

Not even Jose?

[Ultra]

I don't think Jose even recognises our existence..

[lookwhaticando]

Trouble is that Mandaric would pick the thirteenth, Ultra.

:laugh:

Brilliant.

[Manwell Pablo]

I do find the timing of these threads fairly amusing, the run Hull are on you could see them turning us over anyday of the week. When it happens Holloway is the worst manager of all time .

The win away at West Brom ment this fixture wasn't quite as do or die as maybe it would of been, a bit like Cardiff with Preston. We still have Colchester, S****horpe and Wednesday at home, as well as Barnsley away. As far as sacking Holloway goes I can't look past the fact that we've already had so many different managerial teams this season (and Gerry "Fu*k off back home to Ireland lots of love Thracian" Taggert and Co were one of them, one win in about six games) and all of them have failed to get the team playing, generally in football you pick a man and you stick with him for at least a year, this clubs just turned into a joke.

And whats the point in getting a new manager anyway, if he comes in and loses two games, which no matter who is is more than possible, we'll be pratically relegated, and you lot will want him out straight away

[renards]

Davis may be the answer, who knows.

But talk to any Derby supporter (as I did after each of their games) and they will say they were total crap and just nicked a goal, game after game

[filbertway]

Manwell's right, some of the fans seem to think the only way of solving a problem is by changing manager. Even some of the "maturer" people who should really know better.

Crazy idea but let's give him time?

[He's not bald]

Granted, Ollie should be getting the best out of them, BUT, if the confidence is low and it keeps getting knocked back with every defeat, it's going to be hard for any manager to turn it around.

Yes, we are good on paper... but we need to make sure that we turn it around to being good on the pitch and the players have to realise this just as much as Ollie.

That'll be toilet paper then!

[Ultra]

I do find the timing of these threads fairly amusing, the run Hull are on you could see them turning us over anyday of the week. When it happens Holloway is the worst manager of all time .

The win away at West Brom ment this fixture wasn't quite as do or die as maybe it would of been, a bit like Cardiff with Preston. We still have Colchester, S****horpe and Wednesday at home, as well as Barnsley away. As far as sacking Holloway goes I can't look past the fact that we've already had so many different managerial teams this season (and Gerry "Fu*k off back home to Ireland lots of love Thracian" Taggert and Co were one of them, one win in about six games) and all of them have failed to get the team playing, generally in football you pick a man and you stick with him for at least a year, this clubs just turned into a joke.

And whats the point in getting a new manager anyway, if he comes in and loses two games, which no matter who is is more than possible, we'll be pratically relegated, and you lot will want him out straight away

As far as sacking Holloway goes, I can't look past the fact his record for us is worse than Rob Kelly's.

Getting rid of a failing manager helped save us last season. Why shouldn't it do so now?

[filbertway]

As far as sacking Holloway goes, I can't look past the fact his record for us is worse than Rob Kelly's.

Getting rid of a failing manager helped save us last season. Why shouldn't it do so now?

Ok, and if the next manager doesn't improve within 3/4 months do we sack him? Then keep doing this till we find someone who get's good quick results?

[Ultra]

That's a bridge we should cross when/if we ever come to it.

Right now, Holloway is the problem. Unless and until Mandaric sorts it out, we are on our way to League One, with no guarantee (ask Leeds or Forest) of a return.

Is that what you want for our club?

If so, you need to revise your aspirations...

[filbertway]

That's a bridge we should cross when/if we ever come to it.

Right now, Holloway is the problem. Unless and until Mandaric sorts it out, we are on our way to League One, with no guarantee (ask Leeds or Forest) of a return.

Is that what you want for our club?

If so, you need to revise your aspirations...

In all honesty going down wouldn't be that bad IMO, I admit I'm in a minority of about 0.5% that feel that way, but we might see winning football, have a chance to visit a laod of new grounds and there will probably even be cheaper ticket prices.

But that's not why I want Ollie to stay in charge, I want him to stay in charge because A) I think he will keep us up, B) we need stability to gain any sort of success and C) he showed what he can do in this league before with plymouth and I belive he cna match or better that here given time.

I'm just glad Mandaric and foxestalk weren't here when O'Neill was in charge and had just started.

[MC Prussian]

Ok, and if the next manager doesn't improve within 3/4 months do we sack him? Then keep doing this till we find someone who get's good quick results?

That's the crux - what is it that has Leicester City FC perform in such disappointing fashion in the past four to five years? What's wrong with this club?

Milan Mandaric has brought in numerous new managers that couldn't get the ship out of the shallow water (or only merely), wasted most of them (even during his spell at Portsmouth), dished out some large amount of money on new players that are underperforming and look where we are.

This is crazy.

I know that it's always the easiest option to criticize the manager and demand his sacking, but Holloway is really topping it all in terms of his careless attitude, his inability to take the blame. It's like he's living someplace else in his head - Ollie's Delusional Dreamland or something. Obviously, he can't get his message across in the changing room and/or the training ground.

The player situation is an odd one. Several people have already pointed out that we have a very good side - on paper. We've been talking about this a lot, even in the past few season we always looked like we could do well in the Championship. What it is that makes this side perform so badly, I can only guess. We only seem to play good enough occasionally, and winning at WBA has to be put into context and considered to be a major miracle. Everything you could ask for, we did it. Then again, they never come across as being serious and concerned - all we get is standard answers without any heartfelt feeling. Where has the compassion gone?

But my guess is the main issue remains to be connected to the manager.

What a frustrating season and I seriously hope we can still make the cut. Relegation wouldn't be the end of my football fandom, but I'd still mourn the way the manager and the team let the fans down. And in such a negative scenario, if that collective frustration should hit the top, I can sense something really terrible happening this off-season.

[p.po40]

Hollowhead has to go, his record speaks for itself, we need a Dowie or Davis in asap. This guy is only interested in his own media, he appears on TV more often than the news and thinks all is OK if the little fool can make us laugh!

The joke is over, get rid of him now!

MM must act in the best interests of our club.

[sdb]

it's not just about saving this season - we do that every year and then go through it all again

changing managers MAY improve our season but it will do nothing for long term stability which is what we need. we can still stay up anyway and if we sack Ollie, who's gonna want to come in thats better than him - especially next season if we're in League 1?

i say we try this crazy idea of sticking by someone and seeing what happens - it usually works.

or we can sack another manager and screw up this club even more

[Manwell Pablo]

As far as sacking Holloway goes, I can't look past the fact his record for us is worse than Rob Kelly's.

Getting rid of a failing manager helped save us last season. Why shouldn't it do so now?

As it did arguable the season before.

But your being black and white again aren't you, changing managers didn't work for Leeds or Forest who you like to mention every five seconds, so why should it for us. Swings and roundabouts. One thing I will say is previous managers (Levein and Kelly) had a lot longer to work with the squad than Holloway has had and no track record of doing a job in this division.

[Fez of Mahrez]

In all honesty going down wouldn't be that bad IMO, I admit I'm in a minority of about 0.5% that feel that way, but we might see winning football, have a chance to visit a laod of new grounds and there will probably even be cheaper ticket prices.

But that's not why I want Ollie to stay in charge, I want him to stay in charge because A) I think he will keep us up, B) we need stability to gain any sort of success and C) he showed what he can do in this league before with plymouth and I belive he cna match or better that here given time.

I'm just glad Mandaric and foxestalk weren't here when O'Neill was in charge and had just started.

Spot on, especially the last sentence.

[Webbo]

I do find the timing of these threads fairly amusing, the run Hull are on you could see them turning us over anyday of the week. When it happens Holloway is the worst manager of all time .

The win away at West Brom ment this fixture wasn't quite as do or die as maybe it would of been, a bit like Cardiff with Preston. We still have Colchester, S****horpe and Wednesday at home, as well as Barnsley away. As far as sacking Holloway goes I can't look past the fact that we've already had so many different managerial teams this season (and Gerry "Fu*k off back home to Ireland lots of love Thracian" Taggert and Co were one of them, one win in about six games) and all of them have failed to get the team playing, generally in football you pick a man and you stick with him for at least a year, this clubs just turned into a joke.

And whats the point in getting a new manager anyway, if he comes in and loses two games, which no matter who is is more than possible, we'll be pratically relegated, and you lot will want him out straight away

Apart from the and the that's spot on.

[Ultra]

As it did arguable the season before.

But your being black and white again aren't you, changing managers didn't work for Leeds or Forest who you like to mention every five seconds, so why should it for us. Swings and roundabouts. One thing I will say is previous managers (Levein and Kelly) had a lot longer to work with the squad than Holloway has had and no track record of doing a job in this division.

The managers at Leeds and Forest were not given the money to rebuild the squad that Mandaric has given to Holloway. So they were able to pass the blame onto previous regimes. Holloway won't have this excuse.

Look of the other teams in this league who have pulled clear of relegation despite spending far less than he has. Preston, Burnley, and Norwich are examples, together with Palace (under the guidance of a certain N. Warnock).

Why have they and many other sides outperformed us? The suspicion is that Holloway is a Kevin Keegan-style manager who goes with his heart rather than his head. That approach, in the modern era, can only take a team so far.

Holloway's been relegated before from this league, and may well be adding another drop to his CV soon.

[Thracian]

Manwell's right, some of the fans seem to think the only way of solving a problem is by changing manager. Even some of the "maturer" people who should really know better.

Crazy idea but let's give him time?

How do you justify claiming that Manwell is right?

If Holloway had really played 4-3-3 with wing-backs on Saturday thereby genuinely taking the game to Hull and if he'd done the same against Blackpool, Watford, Coventry (all away) and Plymouth (home) then I'd have had some enthusiasm for the guy.

After all he's signed some reputable footballers and, while he's chosen to abandon other potential scorers/creators, he's got his own men in as replacements.

He's not done what I would have done but so what? If he'd gone with the players he believed in and showed the single mindedness to attack games from the off then, even if it had resulted in us slipping into our present predicament, I'd have given him some credit and shown him some faith.

But he hasn't.

Saturday's was a pretend 4-3-3, in fact far more a 4-5-1, because if it had been a real 4-3-3 we'd have been a tap in goal ahead in the first three minutes and Hull's defenders wouldn't have been given an unexpected holiday.

Holloway's chosen not to use Gradel and instead tried three players (Bori/Hume/Etuhu) who were never going to present his threat out there. Big mistake.

He's also chosen to do without the many goals/assists/chances created by Shush! and instead gone with two people who have historically created very little. Mattock may do the job eventually but not yet. Clapham is simply a left back. Big mistake ousting Shush! without an appropriate replacement.

He's also chosen to do without the likes of King, Beswick and Wesolowski. Defensible had it worked but it hasn't and his blind reliance on experience has neither impressed me - our team remains far too slow - nor do I imagine it has endeared him to the young players concerned who have basically been under-utilised or virtually sidelined since he arrived.

Well I'm sorry but if those three players mentioned, plus Gradel and Shush! aren't better than the likes of Laczko, Bori, Etuhu, Hume (out wide), Mattock (as a winger) and Clapham in terms of creating goals then my view is a lot different to his.

It really matters not though because, even with his own choices, Holloway, tactically, has been found wanting in several games.

Most obviously these were Charlton at home (a 1-1 we should have won), Watford away (failing to score against 10 men), Southampton away (being far too respectful and failing to attack in numbers against a desperately vulnerable team), Hull at home (as previously mentioned and playing far too narrow), Blackpool away (conceding the initiative and doing so a second time when we equalised). Sadly they are not the only games.

Most of the above have one common denominator. Holloway's too cautious. He doesn't get enough players forward at once, plays people out of position, he plays insufficiently researched people who shouldn't ever be in the team yet anyway and he doesn't grasp the initiative in games from the off.

Had we lost some of those games 4-3 but with the right approach and attitude then I could have coped with it and even coped with us going down and with Holloway being given more time to mould his team and get people properly used to playing together and attacking together.

But he's not given us adventurous leadership even when the team got much needed confidence boosters as against Coventry, Norwich, Cardiff and WBA . The only time he really did have a go we beat Coventry and Norwich quite comfortably with six goals in the two games. Why did we not build on that?

Instead we've had four blanks at home in five games when our main priority was scoring and therefore giving us the chance of winning. There's no excuse for failing to score in four matches a season let alone in less than two months and at home.

This isn't being reactionary. I've long set out my parameters for a manager. And Holloway has been little better at satisfying them than Levein or Kelly. In fact, considering the funds he's had and the players he's managed to sign as a result, his record for too long now is worse than theirs. Cos they had next to nothing to spend by comparison.

You suggest giving him time? You might as well say that to a centenarian.

We don't have time. What we have is six games and what we need is a team that attacks and gives itself the chance of scoring some goals. We've got 44 points from 40 games. I seriously doubt that anything less than 52/53 points will keep us up. Which means we HAVE to do some winning.

I honestly don't care if Holloway or someone else does the winning.

But if it's going to be Holloway he will HAVE to change his approach providing, of course, Mandaric gives him chance. I warned Levein and I warned Kelly countless times about being too cautious, too negative.

I also warned Holloway of his folly concerning Gradel, Shush! and about our desperate need to score more goals. You cannot wilfully throw away 10-15 goals/assists from non centre-forwards unless you are damned sure of the replacements. With those goals we'd probably have been close to safe by now.

The warnings were ignored. I doubt they'll be heeded at this late stage but nothing is certain and I live in hope.

Because with 10 of our last 12 games producing just three goals (and one of those scored by the opposition) we cannot survive without radical change and without having the single minded determination to impose ourselves on games from start to finish.

[Flynny]

As far as sacking Holloway goes, I can't look past the fact his record for us is worse than Rob Kelly's.

I'd have kept Kelly on longer.

[Legend_in_blue]

I'd have kept Kelly on longer.

I'd have kept Worthington on longer.

[lookwhaticando]

The Legend in Blue has spoken.

[davieG]

This Holloway should we sack him or not lark, if we talking survival frankly no one's right and no one's wrong, keeping him wont guarantee our survival neither will sacking him, it's all down to personal preference.

Personally I don't really care now because it's going to take the equivalent of turning water into wine to turn get this team to play with any sort of consistency. We escape now we've pretty much got to produce results better than we have at virtually any time over the last 4 years.

[Legend_in_blue]

The Legend in Blue has spoken.

Cheers pal. Time for a beer!!!