Ryanside Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 this topic comes up far too much in threads and usually ends up with with someone posting the smilie. i dont know how people define a "big club", but i'd guess its either by the size of the club, i.e how many many fans you get, or silverware. Football stats are from http://itv.stats.football365.com/, although its only the stats for hte first half of the season, I couldn't find any reliable new sites. Attendance tables for this season: Highest: Total: Average: Domestic Cup wins and Premier League titles in the last 15 years: We are only 1 of 9 clubs who have never been out of the top 2 tiers of English football Im sure there are another million and one factors you could look at, but these are the important facts as I see them, anyone please add any more should you feel it necessary. Discuss!
Daggers Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 I don't see the relevance? I simply don't care whether or not anyone considers my club to be "big" or not. All I care about is that my team doesn't care about itself, that we stumble from crisis to crisis and no one from Mandaric down seems to have the first idea how to arrest this decline.
davieG Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 I don't see the relevance? I simply don't care whether or not anyone considers my club to be "big" or not.All I care about is that my team doesn't care about itself, that we stumble from crisis to crisis and no one from Mandaric down seems to have the first idea how to arrest this decline.
DB11 Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 There are a lot more teams that are bigger than us. There are 40 teams bigger than us in England alone
davieG Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 There are a lot more teams that are bigger than us.There are 40 teams bigger than us in England alone Judge on what criteria?
Master Fox Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 There are a lot more teams that are bigger than us.There are 40 teams bigger than us in England alone Lightning.
DB11 Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 Judge on what criteria? Higher than us in the League. 20 in the Prem and then the 20 above us in the CCC. Cup wins etc. is all history.
Free Falling Foxes Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 Judge on what criteria? I think he's counting the teams between us and the top of the Prem.
davieG Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 Higher than us in the League. 20 in the Prem and then the 20 above us in the CCC.Cup wins etc. is all history. And that is all momentary! A snapshot!
DB11 Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 And that is all momentary! A snapshot! Well that's how I'd classify it. You classify it your way; it's only opinions
davieG Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 Well that's how I'd classify it. You classify it your way; it's only opinions I didn't classify it you did! I think it's all rubbish anyway.
Free Falling Foxes Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 Getting over 30K attendance - albeit helped by the Mockery - when we have been playing very poorly more often than not week in/week out must count for something. I think 'smaller' clubs do raise their game at the Walkers - nice new ground, big crowds, our expectation, recently in the prem, high profile owner, etc. All of which seems to work AGAINST us! FFF
Ricosas Adianski Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 Looking at these stats yes the cup wins were along time ago now though
filbertway Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 We have some decent history. But I don't think a big club spends 3 or 4 seasons in the bottom half of the second tier.
Daggers Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 the cup wins were along time ago now though Yup. And before O'Neill? We were nothing more than just another top flight yo-yo club...only one without a whole clutch of depressed glory hunters that labour under some misaprehension that we have a divine right to be competing for European places. What we are not is a club that has any business to be contemplating playing in Division 3. The consolation comes not from the fact that we are in a select group that have never been in the third tier - but that there is life afterwards for clubs like us, that there is a way back - on the bounce or not.
The Stig Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 We're a big club, but we're crap so it really doesn't matter. Teams seem to rely on being a so called "big club" and therefore feel that they deserve success. Wrong. Results are all that matter.
Fat Ron Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 You are only as good as your last result, that says it all really and thats why we are where we are in the Table.
orod Posted 23 March 2008 Posted 23 March 2008 40 teams?! 40 teams! you serious! 40? liverpool man utd newcastle utd everton arsenal sunderland aston villa tottenham chelsea west ham man city leeds utd forest (only just - cus of the european cup) don't think anyone else is bigger than us. you need to look at it in terms of fan base and history and i don't think many teams beat us on that. There are a lot more teams that are bigger than us.There are 40 teams bigger than us in England alone
purpleronnie Posted 24 March 2008 Posted 24 March 2008 Definately not we have never done anything in the top flight, attendances arent great especially considering how big leicestershire is, plus I know a lot of people say we are more of a rugby city so we have to compete with that. I'm sure if other fans supporters were asked no-one would say leicester are a big club.
Joe. Posted 24 March 2008 Posted 24 March 2008 Yes, I would call us a relatively big club. But it does not give us a god-given right to be successful wherever we are. And it doesn't give us the right to look down upon teams above us who we consider to be "small" clubs.
Narborough Bod Posted 24 March 2008 Posted 24 March 2008 I don't see the relevance? I simply don't care whether or not anyone considers my club to be "big" or not.All I care about is that my team doesn't care about itself, that we stumble from crisis to crisis and no one from Mandaric down seems to have the first idea how to arrest this decline. Every time we lose there are posters saying we should have beat this club, we should have beat that club. Pre Hull, there were posts about 'who are Hull', yet form guide said we had no chance of beating them. People are making comments based on a perception of us as a big club. Worryingly, maybe some of the players see this too and think we're too big to go down. So whether we are a big club is relevant, but more importantly, your comment about the club not caring is even more relevant at the moment. I'd be interested to know how many of them have clauses in their contracts allowing them to leave for **** all if we are relegated.
davieG Posted 24 March 2008 Posted 24 March 2008 Every time we lose there are posters saying we should have beat this club, we should have beat that club.Pre Hull, there were posts about 'who are Hull', yet form guide said we had no chance of beating them. People are making comments based on a perception of us as a big club. Worryingly, maybe some of the players see this too and think we're too big to go down. So whether we are a big club is relevant, but more importantly, your comment about the club not caring is even more relevant at the moment. I'd be interested to know how many of them have clauses in their contracts allowing them to leave for **** all if we are relegated. Even if there isn't such a clause there will be no shortage of desperate Championship managers waiting to snap them up at knock down prices, I'd imagine they are some of the highest paid players in this league - why else would Howard and Oakley come here and we know that McAuley has just signed a new 3.5 year contract that must be much nearer to N'Gotty's inflated one.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 24 March 2008 Posted 24 March 2008 We have never won the league and we have never won the FA Cup and we have never done anything in Europe. We are an average club.
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