Ollies future

[Chromophobia]

midtable obscurity at last!

[Chromophobia]

but seriously mandaric should sack him and get someone else in with an actual football brain, and not just a media whore who knows the right things to say, who will give the kids a chance and buy a talented young striker, Sam Vokes maybe? he's not going to regular football at any prem club is he. sorted.

[Legend_in_blue]

Some of these posts make me laugh.

Yes, what an awful season it has been. But look at the table. 10 points from midtable obscurity and 17 points off the playoffs as it stands now. It's hardly a mountain to climb is it?

Look at all the games we've wasted points from this season. A lot of these were under Megson and his 8-man defence approach. Ok, so IHs tactics may have lost us a few points here or there, but by the time he came in to do the job, it was an extremely difficult position to take the team on in.

Give IH some time to take things on in the summer and see where we're at 10 games in.

People want him to bring in these "quality players", this "top striker", this "midfield general" etc etc. Anyone, ABSOLUTELY ANYONE, taking on the job IH has done, when he did, would have been 100% unsuccessful at bringing this type of player in. Do you honestly believe a player of this stature would come in to a club in such turmoil with such a high turn around of staff? Come on.

Use some common sense.

Give IH some time and better quality players might want to come to our club if they see it as settled, forward thinking football club going places. That won't happen with super quick managerial turnarounds.

[MikeyT]

Who voted automatic promotion?

[Fatbloke]

Can`t see him staying myself, or being sacked either !

[James.]

Some of these posts make me laugh.

Yes, what an awful season it has been. But look at the table. 10 points from midtable obscurity and 17 points off the playoffs as it stands now. It's hardly a mountain to climb is it?

Look at all the games we've wasted points from this season. A lot of these were under Megson and his 8-man defence approach. Ok, so IHs tactics may have lost us a few points here or there, but by the time he came in to do the job, it was an extremely difficult position to take the team on in.

Give IH some time to take things on in the summer and see where we're at 10 games in.

People want him to bring in these "quality players", this "top striker", this "midfield general" etc etc. Anyone, ABSOLUTELY ANYONE, taking on the job IH has done, when he did, would have been 100% unsuccessful at bringing this type of player in. Do you honestly believe a player of this stature would come in to a club in such turmoil with such a high turn around of staff? Come on.

Use some common sense.

Give IH some time and better quality players might want to come to our club if they see it as settled, forward thinking football club going places. That won't happen with super quick managerial turnarounds.

Post more, there's not enough people like you on here.

You've touched on the key factors responsible for our last few seasons... instability and poor decision making.

I refuse to properly judge Holloway until AT LEAST Christmas. Giving him until then is a risk we must take.

[shen]

Post more, there's not enough people like you on here.

You've touched on the key factors responsible for our last few seasons... instability and poor decision making.

I refuse to properly judge Holloway until AT LEAST Christmas. Giving him until then is a risk we must take.

There's just a little thing you two've overlooked. The way Holloway has juggled around with the team, employing just how many different players on the wings????? The guy makes some dreadful decisions quite a lot of the time. I don't imagine this current team is anywhere near settled. The way Henderson, Chambers, N'Gotty, Kishishev, Hume, Mattock, DJ and the two Hungarians have been treated or used under IH is indicative of how little tactical nouse and fingerspitzengefühl this guy has. I do hope he keeps us up, but his limitations are pretty glaring. It's very disturbing that a man like IH, known for his motivational skills and brought in to get this lot raring to go, has very much failed to do better the situation even a tiny bit.

If he can get results using his style with a clean slate next season, then by all means, let's get some stability and see how far that can get us, but IH is not the man who can unleash Leicesters potential...

[Kilworthfox]

Ian Holloway brought on Iain Hume vs Colchester saved a point (tactical decision)

Ian Holloway replaced Injured Hendrie with Hayles and moved him up front moving Hume to right wing, Hayles was MOTM and Set up Hume's goal (tactical decision) 3 points

Ian Holloway seems to me to be doing very well in our pressurised relegation situation compared with our relegation rivals.

Give the bloke a chance to build his side, then make an informed decision on his players, tactics, motivational ability etc....................................

Also media interviews don't have any relevance on his ability to do his job! If that were the case Mouriniho and Ferguson would have been removed a long time ago as crap managers by that logic.

[Webbo]

There's just a little thing you two've overlooked. The way Holloway has juggled around with the team, employing just how many different players on the wings????? The guy makes some dreadful decisions quite a lot of the time. I don't imagine this current team is anywhere near settled. The way Henderson, Chambers, N'Gotty, Kishishev, Hume, Mattock, DJ and the two Hungarians have been treated or used under IH is indicative of how little tactical nouse and fingerspitzengefühl this guy has. I do hope he keeps us up, but his limitations are pretty glaring. It's very disturbing that a man like IH, known for his motivational skills and brought in to get this lot raring to go, has very much failed to do better the situation even a tiny bit.

If he can get results using his style with a clean slate next season, then by all means, let's get some stability and see how far that can get us, but IH is not the man who can unleash Leicesters potential...

fingerspitzengefühl?

[davieG]

Ian Holloway brought on Iain Hume vs Colchester saved a point (tactical decision)

Ian Holloway replaced Injured Hendrie with Hayles and moved him up front moving Hume to right wing, Hayles was MOTM and Set up Hume's goal (tactical decision) 3 points

Ian Holloway seems to me to be doing very well in our pressurised relegation situation compared with our relegation rivals.

Give the bloke a chance to build his side, then make an informed decision on his players, tactics, motivational ability etc....................................

Also media interviews don't have any relevance on his ability to do his job! If that were the case Mouriniho and Ferguson would have been removed a long time ago as crap managers by that logic.

Would he have done that but for the injury - I doubt it so not so much tactical as foroced upon him.

[Kilworthfox]

Would he have done that but for the injury - I doubt it so not so much tactical as foroced upon him.

Not at that time, however he did choose Big Baz from the options on the bench and moved personnel. In my book that is a tactical substitution through a forced situation, maybe an on the spot sub? Well done in the heat of the moment?

[James.]

Not at that time, however he did choose Big Baz from the options on the bench and moved personnel. In my book that is a tactical substitution through a forced situation, maybe an on the spot sub? Well done in the heat of the moment?

The point is that he has made some good decisions and some bad decisions. Overall, for me, he's not had enough time or made enough decisions to allow a complete judgement and the very last thing we need is a new manager, new players and new problems.

[Legend_in_blue]

There's just a little thing you two've overlooked. The way Holloway has juggled around with the team, employing just how many different players on the wings????? The guy makes some dreadful decisions quite a lot of the time. I don't imagine this current team is anywhere near settled. The way Henderson, Chambers, N'Gotty, Kishishev, Hume, Mattock, DJ and the two Hungarians have been treated or used under IH is indicative of how little tactical nouse and fingerspitzengefühl this guy has. I do hope he keeps us up, but his limitations are pretty glaring. It's very disturbing that a man like IH, known for his motivational skills and brought in to get this lot raring to go, has very much failed to do better the situation even a tiny bit.

If he can get results using his style with a clean slate next season, then by all means, let's get some stability and see how far that can get us, but IH is not the man who can unleash Leicesters potential...

The players you have mentioned aren't "his players". The players he has brought in have not been used to maximum effect because the players already here can't help to make the best use out of them. The fact is that Allen had little to no option on the wings at the start of the season - even resorting to Weso on the wing in the first game and it's steam-rollered from there with players out of position. Megson then comes in and plays 8-1-1 and completely destroys any attacking intent the team may have and the team then adopts a far more cautious and defensive mindset as a consequence.

IH comes in and trys to change things in the transfer window with a team in turmoil, an unattractive league position, with a chairman wanting the premiership in 3 seasons and a load of numpties on a radio phone in calling for this and that player with premiership pedigree. He still has little to no option on the wings, so he gambles on two Hungarians, on a loan trial basis. Sound business decision. If it doesn't work, so be it. At least you don't have to worry about paying them off with huge contract pay outs. So it doesn't work - and you're left with no option but to play a right-footed forward player on the wing - thanks to Allen's summer signing flops. Hardly the fault of IH. And to be fair to Hume, he does quite well out there, scoring a couple of screamers in one or two games as a result. But thanks to a lack of quality in the squad, IH has very little options from which to change things. Again, hardly the fault of IH.

But then maybe the sun is appearing once again on the Horizon, in the shape of a chap from Luton called Bell. He offers something neither Allen nor Megson could find. A winger on the right side. And some fans begin to praise his performances - particularly the last against Barnsley.

Maybe that's the beginning of something new. But only if IH is given the proper chance that he needs to begin to shape a team with attacking flair and with "a squad of players capable of providing quality players who can play in the right positions".

Give the bloke a chance for crying out loud.

Rant over.

Please tell me I am talking sense someone. Please.

[Kilworthfox]

The point is that he has made some good decisions and some bad decisions. Overall, for me, he's not had enough time or made enough decisions to allow a complete judgement and the very last thing we need is a new manager, new players and new problems.

Agreed, how anyone can say he is a bad manager because of this or that is daft as he has only been here 5 minutes.

He IMO needs a full season after this one, stability is fruitful at any club.

[Kilworthfox]

The players you have mentioned aren't "his players". The players he has brought in have not been used to maximum effect because the players already here can't help to make the best use out of them. The fact is that Allen had little to no option on the wings at the start of the season - even resorting to Weso on the wing in the first game and it's steam-rollered from there with players out of position. Megson then comes in and plays 8-1-1 and completely destroys any attacking intent the team may have and the team then adopts a far more cautious and defensive mindset as a consequence.

IH comes in and trys to change things in the transfer window with a team in turmoil, an unattractive league position, with a chairman wanting the premiership in 3 seasons and a load of numpties on a radio phone in calling for this and that player with premiership pedigree. He still has little to no option on the wings, so he gambles on two Hungarians, on a loan trial basis. Sound business decision. If it doesn't work, so be it. At least you don't have to worry about paying them off with huge contract pay outs. So it doesn't work - and you're left with no option but to play a right-footed forward player on the wing - thanks to Allen's summer signing flops. Hardly the fault of IH. And to be fair to Hume, he does quite well out there, scoring a couple of screamers in one or two games as a result. But thanks to a lack of quality in the squad, IH has very little options from which to change things. Again, hardly the fault of IH.

But then maybe the sun is appearing once again on the Horizon, in the shape of a chap from Luton called Bell. He offers something neither Allen nor Megson could find. A winger on the right side. And some fans begin to praise his performances - particularly the last against Barnsley.

Maybe that's the beginning of something new. But only if IH is given the proper chance that he needs to begin to shape a team with attacking flair and with "a squad of players capable of providing quality players who can play in the right positions".

Give the bloke a chance for crying out loud.

Rant over.

Please tell me I am talking sense someone. Please.

[Webbo]

Please tell me I am talking sense someone. Please.

You're talking sense.

[maddog]

Ollies players are Howard and Oakley who have been fooking awful for ages now.

The Hungarians who never play.

Ollie's players are worser than the rest of the squad.

Apart from Barry Hayles, Ollies signings have proven to be awful.

Howard most of the time has been a useless waste of space, and Oakley has been not in the game at all in his last 8 games or so.

[Koke]

The players you have mentioned aren't "his players". The players he has brought in have not been used to maximum effect because the players already here can't help to make the best use out of them. The fact is that Allen had little to no option on the wings at the start of the season - even resorting to Weso on the wing in the first game and it's steam-rollered from there with players out of position. Megson then comes in and plays 8-1-1 and completely destroys any attacking intent the team may have and the team then adopts a far more cautious and defensive mindset as a consequence.

IH comes in and trys to change things in the transfer window with a team in turmoil, an unattractive league position, with a chairman wanting the premiership in 3 seasons and a load of numpties on a radio phone in calling for this and that player with premiership pedigree. He still has little to no option on the wings, so he gambles on two Hungarians, on a loan trial basis. Sound business decision. If it doesn't work, so be it. At least you don't have to worry about paying them off with huge contract pay outs. So it doesn't work - and you're left with no option but to play a right-footed forward player on the wing - thanks to Allen's summer signing flops. Hardly the fault of IH. And to be fair to Hume, he does quite well out there, scoring a couple of screamers in one or two games as a result. But thanks to a lack of quality in the squad, IH has very little options from which to change things. Again, hardly the fault of IH.

But then maybe the sun is appearing once again on the Horizon, in the shape of a chap from Luton called Bell. He offers something neither Allen nor Megson could find. A winger on the right side. And some fans begin to praise his performances - particularly the last against Barnsley.

Maybe that's the beginning of something new. But only if IH is given the proper chance that he needs to begin to shape a team with attacking flair and with "a squad of players capable of providing quality players who can play in the right positions".

Give the bloke a chance for crying out loud.

Rant over.

Please tell me I am talking sense someone. Please.

Frame it.

[Corky]

Ollies players are Howard and Oakley who have been fooking awful for ages now.

The Hungarians who never play.

Ollie's players are worser than the rest of the squad.

Apart from Barry Hayles, Ollies signings have proven to be awful.

Howard most of the time has been a useless waste of space, and Oakley has been not in the game at all in his last 8 games or so.

I take it you are not a fan of Mr Holloway?

[Uncle Albert]

Ollies players are Howard and Oakley who have been fooking awful for ages now.

The Hungarians who never play.

Ollie's players are worser than the rest of the squad.

Apart from Barry Hayles, Ollies signings have proven to be awful.

Howard most of the time has been a useless waste of space, and Oakley has been not in the game at all in his last 8 games or so.

But I bet you were like every other Leicester fan saying Howard was a class buy when he scored his hat trick? Or after the Hungarians performances against Cov and like Lee Hendrie's performances.

You talk that much shite its unberlievable.

[Koke]

The Hungarians was a gamble, took them loan and if they paid off then good. If not, you can always send them back. At least it was better than giving them a 2 year contract like a certain Iranian kid and then 6 months later had to pay his contract off so he could piss off.

Ollie did try to get wingers in. Ipswich priced us out for Chuck Norris and we all know **** faace Stapleton wouldn't sell us Halmosi at any given price. He brought in Lee Hendrie, who's been superb, and David Bell who have done really well.

[Corky]

But I bet you were like every other Leicester fan saying Howard was a class buy when he scored his hat trick? Or after the Hungarians performances against Cov and like Lee Hendrie's performances.

You talk that much shite its unberlievable.

I agree about the Howard thing, he has done alright, possibly no better than he can do. He did brilliantly for Derby last season, but maybe that was a one-off. Give him a decent chance though and he'll take it. Hendrie has been superb, and Bell hasn't let us down, along with Hayles, so not all Holloway's signings have been complete failures.

[shen]

The players you have mentioned aren't "his players". The players he has brought in have not been used to maximum effect because the players already here can't help to make the best use out of them. The fact is that Allen had little to no option on the wings at the start of the season - even resorting to Weso on the wing in the first game and it's steam-rollered from there with players out of position. Megson then comes in and plays 8-1-1 and completely destroys any attacking intent the team may have and the team then adopts a far more cautious and defensive mindset as a consequence.

IH comes in and trys to change things in the transfer window with a team in turmoil, an unattractive league position, with a chairman wanting the premiership in 3 seasons and a load of numpties on a radio phone in calling for this and that player with premiership pedigree. He still has little to no option on the wings, so he gambles on two Hungarians, on a loan trial basis. Sound business decision. If it doesn't work, so be it. At least you don't have to worry about paying them off with huge contract pay outs. So it doesn't work - and you're left with no option but to play a right-footed forward player on the wing - thanks to Allen's summer signing flops. Hardly the fault of IH. And to be fair to Hume, he does quite well out there, scoring a couple of screamers in one or two games as a result. But thanks to a lack of quality in the squad, IH has very little options from which to change things. Again, hardly the fault of IH.

But then maybe the sun is appearing once again on the Horizon, in the shape of a chap from Luton called Bell. He offers something neither Allen nor Megson could find. A winger on the right side. And some fans begin to praise his performances - particularly the last against Barnsley.

Maybe that's the beginning of something new. But only if IH is given the proper chance that he needs to begin to shape a team with attacking flair and with "a squad of players capable of providing quality players who can play in the right positions".

Give the bloke a chance for crying out loud.

Rant over.

Please tell me I am talking sense someone. Please.

You are talking sense.

The mentioned players aren't "his", but most of those had proven their ability at this level previously. But it was obvious he didn't trust Henderson for a first. But now he does apparently! That's only until the transfer window opens again surely. The winger problem has not been solved by anyone pre-Holloway, no. But that doesn't exempt him from any fingerpointing. He brought in Bori, Laczko and Etuhu and sent out Gradel before bringing in Bell, who's the only one to have 'survived' in the first team. Hume has scored a few from the wing, but most would agree that he's been bad overall and his talents went to waste there. For some bizarre reason, Hayles gets away with it on the left. Oakley has been largely indifferent and Howards form has gone from great to awful. Hendrie is a godsend from heaven. Without him we would've been down and out surely.

I don't want Ollie to fail here, but my main concern is that what he seemingly does best (motivating), is not having much effect here. Overall I think he's done OK in the transfer market. Better than most of our previous managers anyway. I just highly doubt that he's in Mandaric's plans to achieve promotion to the Premier League.

[Chrysalis]

He made a big judgement error when paying for howard instead of fulop, every leics fan I have spoken to agrees with me fulop has been the best keeper we had since flowers. However hendrie is good and bell, problem is they both loans and not signings.

[luffbra]

The players you have mentioned aren't "his players". The players he has brought in have not been used to maximum effect because the players already here can't help to make the best use out of them. The fact is that Allen had little to no option on the wings at the start of the season - even resorting to Weso on the wing in the first game and it's steam-rollered from there with players out of position. Megson then comes in and plays 8-1-1 and completely destroys any attacking intent the team may have and the team then adopts a far more cautious and defensive mindset as a consequence.

IH comes in and trys to change things in the transfer window with a team in turmoil, an unattractive league position, with a chairman wanting the premiership in 3 seasons and a load of numpties on a radio phone in calling for this and that player with premiership pedigree. He still has little to no option on the wings, so he gambles on two Hungarians, on a loan trial basis. Sound business decision. If it doesn't work, so be it. At least you don't have to worry about paying them off with huge contract pay outs. So it doesn't work - and you're left with no option but to play a right-footed forward player on the wing - thanks to Allen's summer signing flops. Hardly the fault of IH. And to be fair to Hume, he does quite well out there, scoring a couple of screamers in one or two games as a result. But thanks to a lack of quality in the squad, IH has very little options from which to change things. Again, hardly the fault of IH.

But then maybe the sun is appearing once again on the Horizon, in the shape of a chap from Luton called Bell. He offers something neither Allen nor Megson could find. A winger on the right side. And some fans begin to praise his performances - particularly the last against Barnsley.

Maybe that's the beginning of something new. But only if IH is given the proper chance that he needs to begin to shape a team with attacking flair and with "a squad of players capable of providing quality players who can play in the right positions".

Give the bloke a chance for crying out loud.

Rant over.

Please tell me I am talking sense someone. Please.

Superb ... well said