Trust & Supporters Groups Call For Deadline Delay

[Guest]

Perhaps you should be asking yourself why the FCC didn't have any discussion on this topic last Thursday, when the relegation risk was very real?

We did attend the FCC sub committee & also recommended a price freeze for staying in the Championship, (link to that posted on an earlier post). That was a very public recommendation via the media which worked, as the club did agree to an early bird price freeze (when we know a price rise for all was planned)

There is no doubt there would have been stronger consultation on pricing with the Trust behind closed doors in previous years, however every Trust has to adapt it's role as those running the club change, so it is now more appropriate to use media campaigns.

We would doubt there are many fans which wouldn't agree with our current campaign

But it was discussed. Or did your rep miss that bit? I know that it was brief (thanks to PA), and I know that opinion was split, but I didn't imagine what happened.

Also, you give the impression that you are paying lip service to the supporters. Why is it ok to recommend a price freeze before the event, and then change your minds once it happens to say "oh sorry guys, perhaps you need to drop prices after all"? I don't buy this negative impact stuff. You're just saying what you think the fans want to hear.

[Kilworthfox]

1. We are not the most expensive club in Div.3

2. Pricing has been set

3. I'd quite like us to go back up again

4. Your "campaign" is a press release and nothing more

1. we should be more expensive!

2. Pricing is irrelevant I would buy a ticket for £1000 even in div 4

3. don't talk such shit you love our demise

4. Long live the Foxes Timewaste

On a side issue not 1 fan would disagree with lowering ticket prices! This is a PR exercise, everyone knows the club take no notice of the Foxes Trust, FFS They take more notice of FoxesTalk than you lot See Holloway's missus

[Ultra]

On a side issue not 1 fan would disagree with lowering ticket prices! This is a PR exercise, everyone knows the club take no notice of the Foxes Trust, FFS They take more notice of FoxesTalk than you lot See Holloway's missus

The fact that she even reads these boards is because too many fcukwits on here said her husband should be kept on, until it was too late..

[Foxes_Trust]

1. We are not the most expensive club in Div.3

2. Pricing has been set

3. I'd quite like us to go back up again

4. Your "campaign" is a press release and nothing more

1. Agreed, Leeds are by miles, then Colchester have hiked prices & justified it their supporters due to moving to a brand new ground, then we are next most expensive, doesn't make it right

2. Doesn't mean it can't change, the prices were going up (as PA stated), we campaigned for a freeze via the media & not long afterwards MM ordered a freeze

3. So would we, but we believe the net income would be higher if they dropped prices, so many we have spoken to will not renew without a price cut given the drop in division., therefore it's in everyones interests to do so

4. Dialogue with the club is also being undertaken

[Foxes_Trust]

But it was discussed. Or did your rep miss that bit? I know that it was brief (thanks to PA), and I know that opinion was split, but I didn't imagine what happened.

Our rep did point out his price had actually risen due to the introduction of the direct debit fees, if he bought the ST the same method as last year and PA agreed to differ.

And why do you think it was kept brief? - PA wanted to increase prices & told us directly in our first meeting that our views would always differ on pricing which is why we have adopted the media campaigning approach instead - PA's thinking is wrong though, the club will get more net revenue if they drop prices

Also, you give the impression that you are paying lip service to the supporters. Why is it ok to recommend a price freeze before the event, and then change your minds once it happens to say "oh sorry guys, perhaps you need to drop prices after all"? I don't buy this negative impact stuff. You're just saying what you think the fans want to hear.

We recommened a price freeze based on not getting relegated, if we campaigned earlier for a reduction IF we were relegated, it would not have been a good show of faith in the club/manager/players and we felt that would have been sending out the wrong message.

[Scow]

I know all about the FCC.

[Guest]

2. Doesn't mean it can't change, the prices were going up (as PA stated), we campaigned for a freeze via the media & not long afterwards MM ordered a freeze

I can't believe that you are trying to take the credit for this! Many fans got off their own arses and contacted the club and/or the local media to voice their anger at such a move. I would have thought MM had the intelligence to consider all opinions, and not just that of a supporters group with dwindling membership and no power within the club whatsoever.

Our rep did point out his price had actually risen due to the introduction of the direct debit fees, if he bought the ST the same method as last year and PA agreed to differ.

And why do you think it was kept brief? - PA wanted to increase prices & told us directly in our first meeting that our views would always differ on pricing which is why we have adopted the media campaigning approach instead - PA's thinking is wrong though, the club will get more net revenue if they drop prices

We recommened a price freeze based on not getting relegated, if we campaigned earlier for a reduction IF we were relegated, it would not have been a good show of faith in the club/manager/players and we felt that would have been sending out the wrong message.

You were well behind the times, as I think many supporters had no faith in any of the above. Surely, if you wanted to be taken seriously, there was a need to consider all possibilities and take measures accordingly. We all knew that PA thinks that this club is overdue an increase in ST prices, and we all knew that relegation was a very real possibility. The release of your latest statement is very much closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. I know that when I contacted the club regarding ST prices, I certainly made my views known to them.

You are not putting yourself in a good light as a supporters' group if you put the thoughts and feelings of the club before those of the fans.

[Corky]

I can't believe that you are trying to take the credit for this! Many fans got off their own arses and contacted the club and/or the local media to voice their anger at such a move. I would have thought MM had the intelligence to consider all opinions, and not just that of a supporters group with dwindling membership and no power within the club whatsoever.

You were well behind the times, as I think many supporters had no faith in any of the above. Surely, if you wanted to be taken seriously, there was a need to consider all possibilities and take measures accordingly. We all knew that PA thinks that this club is overdue an increase in ST prices, and we all knew that relegation was a very real possibility. The release of your latest statement is very much closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. I know that when I contacted the club regarding ST prices, I certainly made my views known to them.

You are not putting yourself in a good light as a supporters' group if you put the thoughts and feelings of the club before those of the fans.

I would not like to meet you in a bad mood Lisa. You seem quite intimidating.

[Guest]

I would not like to meet you in a bad mood Lisa. You seem quite intimidating.

I'm a little kitten really.

[Daggers]

I'm a little kitten really.

Yea.

Kitten.

Kitten with boxing gloves and an Armalite M16 and a tank.

[Foxes_Trust]

I can't believe that you are trying to take the credit for this! Many fans got off their own arses and contacted the club and/or the local media to voice their anger at such a move. I would have thought MM had the intelligence to consider all opinions, and not just that of a supporters group with dwindling membership and no power within the club whatsoever.

Yes many fans did contact the club directly - why? - because the Trust put into the public domain what PA had said at our AGM about putting up prices as much as 15% in some areas of the ground. We created the climate for many fans to directly complain to the club about the plans.

We also appeared on Radio Leicester to ensure not only internet enabled fans were aware and therefore could also voice their feelings

The release of your latest statement is very much closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. I know that when I contacted the club regarding ST prices, I certainly made my views known to them.

Individuals contacting the club can easily be played down as "a few fans" and nobody can prove otherwise, the club played this game for years, the media route drums up significantly more publicity and puts more pressure on the club.

Perhaps you didn't learn anything from MM's takeover where he put significant pressure on the existing shareholders to sell, by using the media & stirring up the fans feelings

You are not putting yourself in a good light as a supporters' group if you put the thoughts and feelings of the club before those of the fans.

Surely as supporters we all have the club as our first priority, to take your point to the extreme you would have a fans group wishing the club would go down to enable fans to get cheaper tickets would you?

We were prepared for the options, hence what we put in the media a few days after relegation

[iancognito]

So sales of shirts or programmes fall.......

Unlikely. The amount of blue polyester around the ground at the Sheffield Wednesday game suggests people prepared to pay £35 for a shirt wouldn't be bothered by it being £36, they'd still buy it as a show of loyalty etc. The same applies to programmes, the things shouldn't be any more than a quid or two but seeing that they sell them by the thousand at £3, a few more pence on the price won't dramatically affect sales.

If they can't reduce prices, or won't reduce them, maybe they should offer a few incentives to go with them - 50% off in the shop, free coach travel to away games, whatever it might be. Even if the freeze is held until 1st August, that would help. They need to do something because of 8 ST holders I know, only 2 are renewing next year, the other 6 are picking their games. If that's a similar story across the ground, they're in for a lot of empty seats next season.

[Guest]

Yes many fans did contact the club directly - why? - because the Trust put into the public domain what PA had said at our AGM about putting up prices as much as 15% in some areas of the ground. We created the climate for many fans to directly complain to the club about the plans.

We also appeared on Radio Leicester to ensure not only internet enabled fans were aware and therefore could also voice their feelings

You were merely the messenger. We would have found out in any case, so there's no need to make out you are important.

Individuals contacting the club can easily be played down as "a few fans" and nobody can prove otherwise, the club played this game for years, the media route drums up significantly more publicity and puts more pressure on the club.

Perhaps you didn't learn anything from MM's takeover where he put significant pressure on the existing shareholders to sell, by using the media & stirring up the fans feelings

Perhaps you underestimate the intelligence of our supporters, and the fact that you are not alone. You were not the only group interviewed, and other fans managed to get their say. You may have alerted the local media to the news, but you did not whip up a frenzy by yourself. But there is that self-importance factor again...

I also don't see what MM's takeover has to do with anything. Unless you're still bitter about missing out on a place on the Board....

Surely as supporters we all have the club as our first priority, to take your point to the extreme you would have a fans group wishing the club would go down to enable fans to get cheaper tickets would you?

We were prepared for the options, hence what we put in the media a few days after relegation

That is the biggest load of bull I have read from you in a long while. You know that is not what I meant, and trying to twist my words because you have no argument is pathetic.

[The People's Hero]

I've never known anyone to pat themselves on the back so much for doing so little as the FOXES TRUST do.

Ridiculous.

[Kilworthfox]

I've never known anyone to pat themselves on the back so much for doing so little as the FOXES TRUST do.

Ridiculous.

[OriginalRobboFOX]

I've never known anyone to pat themselves on the back so much for doing so little as the FOXES TRUST do.

Ridiculous.

The words pompous, jumped-up, ****** come to mind....

[The People's Hero]

Just imagine, without the FT, none of us would know WHAT TO THINK about anything!!

What did we do before them?

Oh - yeah - we didn't have opinions, did we? We can't think for ourselves.

Bunch of pricks.

[Bellend Sebastian]

Can someone remind me why we're slagging the Foxes Trust off? I'm not saying we shouldn't be, I've just forgotten why we are

[Corky]

Can someone remind me why we're slagging the Foxes Trust off? I'm not saying we shouldn't be, I've just forgotten why we are

Because we're fed up of slagging off Holloway, and need a new target

[Floating Fox]

Can someone remind me why we're slagging the Foxes Trust off? I'm not saying we shouldn't be, I've just forgotten why we are

Dont worry its just Lisa

[Foxes_Trust]

You were merely the messenger We would have found out in any case, so there's no need to make out you are important.

"merely the messenger" - well we didn't make the decision no, so in that case our job was to communicate to the fan base that a price rise was planned - what exactly is your problem with that?

"Found out" eventually is most likely have equated to when they put the prices up. We made the information public to encourage fans to show their disapproval & the increase decision was reversed - that seemed to work, so again what is the problem?

Perhaps you underestimate the intelligence of our supporters, and the fact that you are not alone.

Not at all, fans come from all walks of life and that is a benefit when running a Trust as an example. Generally it's the clubs that like to treat fans like sheep believing they will put up with any treatment because of their love of the club

You were not the only group interviewed, and other fans managed to get their say. You may have alerted the local media to the news, but you did not whip up a frenzy by yourself. But there is that self-importance factor again...

We kicked off the entire discussion in March via our press release & appearing on the radio. We hoped the result would be other fans interviewed & clearly expressing their own opinions. Look at tonight's Mercury, the number of letters demanding a price reduction has increased since our press release last week.

Not saying that fans weren't thinking it anyway, but the more people expresssing their opinion via the media, the more likely the club will ow to pressure. That and the poor level of ST sales to date.

I also don't see what MM's takeover has to do with anything. Unless you're still bitter about missing out on a place on the Board....

We were referring to his clever use of the media during the takeover, it's not about being bitter, it's acknowledging how well he used the media and also therefore how important it is to use the same avenue's when campaigning in the future

[Guest]

"merely the messenger" - well we didn't make the decision no, so in that case our job was to communicate to the fan base that a price rise was planned - what exactly is your problem with that?

"Found out" eventually is most likely have equated to when they put the prices up. We made the information public to encourage fans to show their disapproval & the increase decision was reversed - that seemed to work, so again what is the problem?

Not at all, fans come from all walks of life and that is a benefit when running a Trust as an example. Generally it's the clubs that like to treat fans like sheep believing they will put up with any treatment because of their love of the club

We kicked off the entire discussion in March via our press release & appearing on the radio. We hoped the result would be other fans interviewed & clearly expressing their own opinions. Look at tonight's Mercury, the number of letters demanding a price reduction has increased since our press release last week.

Not saying that fans weren't thinking it anyway, but the more people expresssing their opinion via the media, the more likely the club will ow to pressure. That and the poor level of ST sales to date.

We were referring to his clever use of the media during the takeover, it's not about being bitter, it's acknowledging how well he used the media and also therefore how important it is to use the same avenue's when campaigning in the future

You are as much a puppet as anyone else. You were allowed by the club to give that information out, even if there was no explicit statement to that effect.

Of course there is going to be an increase in the number of letters in the Mockery about reducing ST prices after relegation. It's got nothing to do with you and your "press release", more to do with the fact relegation has actually happened and the realisation is beginning to sink in.

I notice that you haven't addressed the fact that you twisted a statement of mine. I wasn't expecting an apology, however I did think you might have been big enough to at least acknowledge that you had misconstrued an apparently clear statement. It also means that you still haven't satisfactorily answered my question properly as to why you chose to deal with a potentially real situation retrospectively. Obviously you are unable to deal with proper issues head on.

[The People's Hero]

FOXES TRUST - What is my opinion of IH? I feel like I should have one but need you to tell me what my concerns and state of mind are!

[BigGibbo]

FOXES TRUST - What is my opinion of IH? I feel like I should have one but need you to tell me what my concerns and state of mind are!

Im not the Foxes Trust whatever that is?? but I'll try . . .

Holloway is a half decent manager who has occasional spurts of quality/luck (???) who also has unusually small testicles.

Hope that works for you!

[The People's Hero]

Im not the Foxes Trust whatever that is?? but I'll try . . .

Holloway is a half decent manager who has occasional spurts of quality/luck (???) who also has unusually small testicles.

Hope that works for you!

But why should I listen to you? You're not the GREAT FOXES TRUST!!!!!

FOXES!!!!!!!!