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RowlattsFox

RowlattsFox

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Why have a couple of people put Howard in a kind of attacking midfielder role? I really don't see how that could possibly work. And then having Gradel, Oakley and Dyer as a midfield 3 will make us even more light weight than we are already and that will take away the stengths of both Gradel and Dyer.

I don't think we need to change the formation, but we do need to change the personell. Unfortunately with our squad at the minute the only place we can make changes is at the back. Pearson doesn't look like he fancies Adams in the centre else he would have played him there against Brighton, although I think a home game could be the best place to try it.

I'm not a Henderson fan, but I think he should play on Saturday. Martins confidence is going to be low and I can see the fans getting on his back.

Henderson

Gilbert (if fit) Kisnorbo Tunchev Powell

Gradel Adams Oakley Dyer

Howard Fryatt

Subs: Martin, Morrison, King, Berner, Hayles

If Gilbert is out, then Tunchev to play right back and Morrison alongside Kisnorbo with Hobbs coming onto the bench.

Thracian

Thracian

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First the simple things.

Henderson back in goal. I never wanted him out in the first place and especially for a loanee who's not as good.

It was foolish to choose Hobbs at full-back and I would never willingly play him there at any level. Full-back is an important and specialised position requiring fast, mobile, quick-tackling players with an abundance of energy and who can pass. Hobbs doesn't get to first base and only emphasises the folly we should all recognise of playing square pegs in round holes

The deployment of Hobbs and return of Kisnorbo has coincided with our defence going back to the hacking and poor passing that set us back so badly in previous seasons and which is in such contrast to the way we passed the ball out of defence at the start of the season. It cannot continue.

Lise mentions the postponement of games for international breaks and I think it has resulted in tool many players having to play too many games in a short time and for a team that has insufficient cover in so many vital positions. We need to have and to use covering players.

Our club is so insulting to the fans that half the time you have no idea whether certain players are realistically available to play or not, like Porter or Dickov.

But notwithstanding that the team I would now go for is:

GK: Henderson (who never deserved to be dropped in the first place)

BK 4: Lee Cox (specialist and mobile full-back who can pass assuming Gilbert remains unfit), Tunchev, Morrison, Mattock. This will hopefully restore the sort of passing and moving back line that served us so well earlier in the season and which was so much better in supporting our midfield and attack.

MF: Gradel, King, Porter (if Oakley injured and if Porter fit and available), Dyer.

Skrs: Howard, Fryatt.

Subs: Martin, Kisnorbo, Adams, McKay, Dickov.

McKay could be important. Howard loses steam towards the end and so, sometimes, do our central midfielders especially if they are up against a packed midfield. There is no way Howard will get back to help the central midfielders and it is not Fryatt's forte either.

McKay is the answer. He'll chase everything, he slips easily into a midfield role, he can see runners and make a pass and he can shoot. What's more he has an abundance of stamina and would be ideal for helping the central pair.

Mark

Mark

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Henderson

Gilbert (if fit)

Tunchev

Hobbs

Powell

Adams

Kishishev

King

Gradel

Fryatt

Dyer

Subs: Howard, Oakley, Martin, Kisnorbo, Mattock

This Villa formation would be good for us but I'd like to see Dyer on the left of a midfield with Oakley and King/Adams cause we really lack options. Campbell when fit and Gradel as additional pace men supporting Fryatt.

JoeyB

JoeyB

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Morrison Tunch Kiz

Back 3

Gradel and Mattock wing backs

and Dyer behind the front 2 would be ace

Dan

Dan

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Henderson

Gilbert/O'Neill

Tunchev

Kisa

Powell

Adams

Adams

King

Dyer

Hayles

Fryatt

Well if Liverpool can't have 11 jamie carraghers

Jonezy

Jonezy

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First the simple things.

Henderson back in goal. I never wanted him out in the first place and especially for a loanee who's not as good.

It was foolish to choose Hobbs at full-back and I would never willingly play him there at any level. Full-back is an important and specialised position requiring fast, mobile, quick-tackling players with an abundance of energy and who can pass. Hobbs doesn't get to first base and only emphasises the folly we should all recognise of playing square pegs in round holes

The deployment of Hobbs and return of Kisnorbo has coincided with our defence going back to the hacking and poor passing that set us back so badly in previous seasons and which is in such contrast to the way we passed the ball out of defence at the start of the season. It cannot continue.

Lise mentions the postponement of games for international breaks and I think it has resulted in tool many players having to play too many games in a short time and for a team that has insufficient cover in so many vital positions. We need to have and to use covering players.

Our club is so insulting to the fans that half the time you have no idea whether certain players are realistically available to play or not, like Porter or Dickov.

But notwithstanding that the team I would now go for is:

GK: Henderson (who never deserved to be dropped in the first place)

BK 4: Lee Cox (specialist and mobile full-back who can pass assuming Gilbert remains unfit), Tunchev, Morrison, Mattock. This will hopefully restore the sort of passing and moving back line that served us so well earlier in the season and which was so much better in supporting our midfield and attack.

MF: Gradel, King, Porter (if Oakley injured and if Porter fit and available), Dyer.

Skrs: Howard, Fryatt.

Subs: Martin, Kisnorbo, Adams, McKay, Dickov.

McKay could be important. Howard loses steam towards the end and so, sometimes, do our central midfielders especially if they are up against a packed midfield. There is no way Howard will get back to help the central midfielders and it is not Fryatt's forte either.

McKay is the answer. He'll chase everything, he slips easily into a midfield role, he can see runners and make a pass and he can shoot. What's more he has an abundance of stamina and would be ideal for helping the central pair.

I find myself nodding to everything in a Thracian post.... :unsure:

Thracian

Thracian

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This Villa formation would be good for us but I'd like to see Dyer on the left of a midfield with Oakley and King/Adams cause we really lack options. Campbell when fit and Gradel as additional pace men supporting Fryatt.

I'd like that far more if Gilbert was fit, which I doubt he will be, and if Powell were a genuine left-sided wing-back. And, with the time Kishishev's had out I would doubt he'd be match fit for any sort of game let alone for the first team.

Webbo

Webbo

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Time for a change Mr Pearson...

Henderson



Tunchev Kisnorbo

Gilbert ----------------- Powell

Oakley

Gradel --------------- Dyer

Howard

Fryatt --------------- Dickov

Subs: (to include) Adams, Hayles, Morrison + any other two who are fit/half decent

I don't see how playing Howard behind the front 2 could work, he has to lead the line or not play.

If I was to alter the formation at all I'd swap Howard for Dickov(if fit). Not as any criticism of Howard who isn't doing bad in his role, more as a change of style.

Fryatt can hold the ball up with Dickov supporting.

colbo68

colbo68

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Why have a couple of people put Howard in a kind of attacking midfielder role? I really don't see how that could possibly work. And then having Gradel, Oakley and Dyer as a midfield 3 will make us even more light weight than we are already and that will take away the stengths of both Gradel and Dyer.

I don't think we need to change the formation, but we do need to change the personell. Unfortunately with our squad at the minute the only place we can make changes is at the back. Pearson doesn't look like he fancies Adams in the centre else he would have played him there against Brighton, although I think a home game could be the best place to try it.

I'm not a Henderson fan, but I think he should play on Saturday. Martins confidence is going to be low and I can see the fans getting on his back.

Henderson

Gilbert (if fit) Kisnorbo Tunchev Powell

Gradel Adams Oakley Dyer

Howard Fryatt

Subs: Martin, Morrison, King, Berner, Hayles

If Gilbert is out, then Tunchev to play right back and Morrison alongside Kisnorbo with Hobbs coming onto the bench.

gotta agree - an attacking midfielder has to be mobile!

colbo68

colbo68

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First the simple things.

Henderson back in goal. I never wanted him out in the first place and especially for a loanee who's not as good.

It was foolish to choose Hobbs at full-back and I would never willingly play him there at any level. Full-back is an important and specialised position requiring fast, mobile, quick-tackling players with an abundance of energy and who can pass. Hobbs doesn't get to first base and only emphasises the folly we should all recognise of playing square pegs in round holes

The deployment of Hobbs and return of Kisnorbo has coincided with our defence going back to the hacking and poor passing that set us back so badly in previous seasons and which is in such contrast to the way we passed the ball out of defence at the start of the season. It cannot continue.

Lise mentions the postponement of games for international breaks and I think it has resulted in tool many players having to play too many games in a short time and for a team that has insufficient cover in so many vital positions. We need to have and to use covering players.

Our club is so insulting to the fans that half the time you have no idea whether certain players are realistically available to play or not, like Porter or Dickov.

But notwithstanding that the team I would now go for is:

GK: Henderson (who never deserved to be dropped in the first place)

BK 4: Lee Cox (specialist and mobile full-back who can pass assuming Gilbert remains unfit), Tunchev, Morrison, Mattock. This will hopefully restore the sort of passing and moving back line that served us so well earlier in the season and which was so much better in supporting our midfield and attack.

MF: Gradel, King, Porter (if Oakley injured and if Porter fit and available), Dyer.

Skrs: Howard, Fryatt.

Subs: Martin, Kisnorbo, Adams, McKay, Dickov.

McKay could be important. Howard loses steam towards the end and so, sometimes, do our central midfielders especially if they are up against a packed midfield. There is no way Howard will get back to help the central midfielders and it is not Fryatt's forte either.

McKay is the answer. He'll chase everything, he slips easily into a midfield role, he can see runners and make a pass and he can shoot. What's more he has an abundance of stamina and would be ideal for helping the central pair.

your sticking with Howard then Thrac - you confuse me - I thought you'd love to see one of the pacy youngsters up front with Matty - I know I would

Joe.

Joe.

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Seeing as we aren't going to adopt a new formation I'd go for this:

Henderson

Berner Tunchev Morrison Powell

Gradel Adams Kishishev Dyer

Fryatt Howard

Yep, I'm dropping Kisnorbo. He scares me at times. I'm not happy with our central midfield; something's got to change. I was reluctant to add Kishishev because he's very short of match experience, but Oakley and King is not working. Berner could do a steady job at right back I think.

colbo68

colbo68

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Seeing as we aren't going to adopt a new formation I'd go for this:

Henderson

Berner Tunchev Morrison Powell

Gradel Adams Kishishev Dyer

Fryatt Howard

Yep, I'm dropping Kisnorbo. He scares me at times. I'm not happy with our central midfield; something's got to change. I was reluctant to add Kishishev because he's very short of match experience, but Oakley and King is not working. Berner could do a steady job at right back I think.

if fit........................

Hendo

Gilbert Tunchev Morrison Powell

Adams Oakley King Dyer

Ash Chambers Dickov

Some of these guys are injured, but should be back within a couple of weeks - this would be my first eleven

stevie909

stevie909

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Whats all this about 'the villa' formation?

Isn't it just the classic 4-3-3 when it comes down to it?

Anyway;

Martin

Cox/O'neill Tunchev Hobbs Powell

Gradel Adams King Dyer

Howard Fryatt

Subs: Porter, Berner, Hendo, Mckay, Kisnorbo.

mckay on if howard looks sluggish, ive seen him a couple of times and liked the look of him.

And i know there has been a lot of martin bashing recently, but i really havnt seen anything that suggests he should be dropped. Sure Hendo is a good stopper, and saved a few pens at the end of last season, but when it comes down to it he's still the same hendo who constantly used to flap at crosses, and i trust pearson's choice, seeing as he is the one who sees him in training.

Salieri

Salieri

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Afraid to say i reckon its gonna be same old, same old again. i.e:

Martin



Hobbs Tunch Kisnorbo Powell

Gradel King Oakley (if fit) Dyer

Howard Fryatt

I'd love to see NP tinker with the formation/personel a touch to show he is at least proactive. But I have my doubts....

clazkel

clazkel

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Time for a change, there is no point sticking with the current team, it isn't working

Hendo



Morrison Tunchev Kisnorbo

Adams------Oakley Berner ------Powell

Dyer

Fryatt Hayles/Chambers

We don't need wingers, play the ball through midfield, run at them rather than balls for Howard to knock down. It's time Morrison was given another go, he was playing well when he was dropped.

Sods

Sods

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If Hobbs is playing right back I will not be happy.

Martin for Henderson as well. I would have King and Berner replaced as well.

And probably tell Max to have a word with himself as well. Quality first half, worst Ive seen in the second. Quality corners from one side, absoulte dog shit from the other.

Munzie

Munzie

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I don't see how playing Howard behind the front 2 could work, he has to lead the line or not play.

If I was to alter the formation at all I'd swap Howard for Dickov(if fit). Not as any criticism of Howard who isn't doing bad in his role, more as a change of style.

Fryatt can hold the ball up with Dickov supporting.

With the formation I posted (4-3-3), I would like to see all three strikers playing in advance positions. The reason for Howards name appearing just behind the other two was to show that he could occasionally drop off slightly if we decide to play root one football (which inevitably we will do throughout the game), he can become a target man with more than one outlet for distribution.

Uncle Albert

Uncle Albert

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so you are basically advocating the same side playing in the same way as the past few games? you don't feel it needs to change? mmmmmmmm :whistle:

Yet it's the same side that won 3 games on the bounce. We have hit a poor bit of form but dropping key players who have won us games this season is pointless in my opinion.

As I said in another thread I don't think these are bad players at the minute, I just think confidence is missing and if we can get that back with a big win tomorrow then this is the eleven to take us back to The Championship.

clazkel

clazkel

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Yet it's the same side that won 3 games on the bounce. We have hit a poor bit of form but dropping key players who have won us games this season is pointless in my opinion.

As I said in another thread I don't think these are bad players at the minute, I just think confidence is missing and if we can get that back with a big win tomorrow then this is the eleven to take us back to The Championship.

I understand what you are saying and when the team plays well they look great and will beat any team in this league, but i think other teams have sussed us out and we need a change. I would like a team that plays the ball through midfield rather than it always going through the wingers or long balls for Howard to knock down. Play it through midfield and have Fryatt up front with Hayles or Dickov or when fit Chambers, i really believe we could tear defences apart, which is what we aren't doing at the minute.

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