BNP membership list leaked online

[lavrentis]

Please may someone PM me the link

Thanks

My opinion is, if people want to support the BNP, then let them - it's the idiots that say ahh the BNP is racist - it's them that's dictating what they should believe, yes they have views on immigration which some people may not agree with but just let them do whatever they want to do. I do agree with some of the views though that the UK should have different immigration policies to the rest of the EU.

[Thracian]

You mean ignorant feckwits who haven't the intelligence or the inclination to acknowledge that the history of the British Isles has been rife with immigration for thousands of years?

The kind of people who are too thick to realise that this country needs people coming in? Yet conveniently ignore the impact of British immigrants on the world's nations because "that's alright, it's not the same, is it".

People living here and losing their jobs in the thousands don't give a toss about Britons who moved abroad.

Many of them don't even care about immigration as such.

What they care about is finding their own jobs disappearing only to find fewer new ones starting up with masses of immigrant labour while they are sidelined due to the lower wages or the scandal of anti-white discrimination and no job at all.

They care that funds which once paid the household bills now leave them short while foreigners walk away from £110,000-odd credit card debts and get given four and five bedroomed houses to live in when they haven't even contributed to the system.

As an individual I sympathise with The Singh's viewpoint and don't believe for one minute that the problems would be nearly so acute if his attitudes prevailed.

But I warned that the surge of anger is increasing not long ago and at about the time when even the black leader of the Commission for Racial Equality was saying how concerned he was that the tide of white jobless was stopped to avoid an escalation of difficulties - or words to that effect.

I cannot ever remember hearing such a statement before from anyone who has historically been concerned about looking after the welfare of non-whites so the situation has to be raising concern.

And I'd go further. I think The Singh's words of caution are too late. The damage has been done. Native white working class people are feeling a sense of hopelessness and abandonment. They are telling me so every single day when previously I wouldn't hear such a conversation once in 12 months. The number of desperate people selling me anything they can get hold of for a few bob is far greater than I've ever known before in over 20 years of dealing.

But still people defend even more immigration, even more strain on our social services and there's even word now that people's land is going to be compulsorarily purchased from nationals to make way for gypsy sites.

All the PC and institutional brainwashing in the world doesn't alter the reality out there.

The ideals are fine but the gun has been overloaded and has backfired.

English people don't hate foreigners. Generally they are the most hospitable of people. As you mention they are islanders and have been meeting and trading with foreigners for thousands of years.

But they do hate being made to feel like second class citizens in what was once their own land. A land that has and is being effectively redistributed by the idealistic and misguided Marxists of the Labour Party.

A Labour Party that will end up hitting its own core supporters harder than they've ever known.

[Thracian]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all political parties against Illegal immigration? Come to think about it, aren't all political parties supposed to be against illegal anything?

The BNP don't want to cut down on illegal immigration, they don't just want to cut down on immigation, they want to actively remove those that live in the country and are not white. They dress it up as some sort of favour, using tax payer's money to fund their racism with something like "Supported Relocation." Insane.

Griffin is an anti-semite, racist little thug and there's no justification for their policies.

Are you saying then that there's nothing wrong with Welsh Nationalism or Scottish Nationalism - just that those heading the British Nationalists are OTT arseholes?

Or would you not dream of sympathising with Welsh nationalism anyway? Wales being the most consistently nationalistic place I've ever visited.

[Finnegan]

Are you saying then that there's nothing wrong with Welsh Nationalism or Scottish Nationalism - just that those heading the British Nationalists are OTT arseholes?

Or would you not dream of sympathising with Welsh nationalism anyway? Wales being the most consistently nationalistic place I've ever visited.

Oh my God, are you REALLY starting this argument? Have I not had this debate enough, seriously?

If you can't comprehend that the word "nationalism" is an incredibly broad spectrum of politics and that there's a massive difference between nationalism in the context of the Irish War of Independence (and then consequently similar politics in Scotland and Wales) and white nationalism in the context of an already free nation then you really, REALLY don't deserve to be considered intelligent enough to hold this debate.

You might as well call all Socialists Nazis.

[Thracian]

Oh my God, are you REALLY starting this argument? Have I not had this debate enough, seriously?

If you can't comprehend that the word "nationalism" is an incredibly broad spectrum of politics and that there's a massive difference between nationalism in the context of the Irish War of Independence (and then consequently similar politics in Scotland and Wales) and white nationalism in the context of an already free nation then you really, REALLY don't deserve to be considered intelligent enough to hold this debate.

You might as well call all Socialists Nazis.

Which conveniently doesn't answer the question at all.

I simply thought you might be just the one to shed light on the nationalism issue.

But up to now all I understand from you is that there's broad spectrum Welsh nationalism, broad spectrum Scottish nationalism and implicitly narrow white nationalism that relates to a free nation (presumably England). Yeah, real free is England!

And if I thought myself as intelligent as you on the subject I wouldn't have needed to ask, would I?

But I'm not. The concept of nationalism is a pretty new ball game to me. But I'm warming to it.

[Finnegan]

I don't really know what's difficult to understand. "Nationalism" just simply means a school of thought that focuses on "the nation." "British" Nationalism is a form of Ethnic Nationalism that preaches that 'Britons', as an ethnic group, have some sort of divine right to this island and that the needs and wants of "Great Britain" should be put before any other. At home, this basically means - as the BNP themselves admit - shipping out the immigrants prioritising to those who are considered traditionally, ethnically British. There is almost no way to look at this that isn't inherently racist

Welsh Nationalism is a form of separatist politics (the second definition on the above dictionary link) that wishes to establish a Welsh state. Welsh nationalists (we can call them separatists, if it makes you feel better) believe that the cultural, social and economic needs of the Welsh people (not necessarily as an ethnic group) are not met by the government of Westminster and seek self governance.

Now I am sure within Welsh nationalists groups there are those with an ethnic angle, but that isn't really the popular school of thought.

Wales is a largely liberal, working class country - it's no coincidence that most resurgences of Welsh nationalism have taken place during times of conservative rule in the United Kingdom. Events like the Tryweryn reservoir incident in which Westminster clearly undermined the wishes and wants of the Welsh people have traditionally acted as catalysts.

[Thracian]

I don't really know what's difficult to understand. "Nationalism" just simply means a school of thought that focuses on "the nation." "British" Nationalism is a form of Ethnic Nationalism that preaches that 'Britons', as an ethnic group, have some sort of divine right to this island and that the needs and wants of "Great Britain" should be put before any other. At home, this basically means - as the BNP themselves admit - shipping out the immigrants prioritising to those who are considered traditionally, ethnically British. There is almost no way to look at this that isn't inherently racist

Welsh Nationalism is a form of separatist politics (the second definition on the above dictionary link) that wishes to establish a Welsh state. Welsh nationalists (we can call them separatists, if it makes you feel better) believe that the cultural, social and economic needs of the Welsh people (not necessarily as an ethnic group) are not met by the government of Westminster and seek self governance.

Now I am sure within Welsh nationalists groups there are those with an ethnic angle, but that isn't really the popular school of thought.

Wales is a largely liberal, working class country - it's no coincidence that most resurgences of Welsh nationalism have taken place during times of conservative rule in the United Kingdom. Events like the Tryweryn reservoir incident in which Westminster clearly undermined the wishes and wants of the Welsh people have traditionally acted as catalysts.

Thanks. As you put it that is simple. In fact I had no idea it was that simple. Silly me. There are one or two questions come to mind about what you say but I'm sure they'll wait.

[Raj]

Will some bastard PM me the list link please.

Might be a laugh to see if i know anyone on it!!!

[Raj]

Where's Tommeh?

B B BNP!

B B BNP!

Our Tommeh aint BNP is he?

No...Not our Tommeh???

[Zingari]

why are the bnp members so concerned that their names and addresses have been made public ?

does it not say more about their opponents ?

[DB11]

part of what???

normal working class Labour supporters who are fed up with this govenments stand on immigration,voting for the BNP

There is many thousand in this country which have done this

Part of a ridiculously facist racist group.

[Daggers]

it's the idiots that say ahh the BNP is racist - it's them that's dictating what they should believe

Absolute bollocks...and on the other hand you'll probably be slamming "human rights" for allowing lots of people to do things you don't agree with.

Standing up against the BNP isn't the same as telling people what they should or shouldn't believe - it is a clear unequivocal statement that some things in society are acceptable and some things aren't. I'm pretty sure that the loonies in the WhatevertheantiEuropeiscalledtoday Party would share some similar political policies but they aren't under-pinned by a fascist philosophy. Go vote for them. It isn't the odd policy that anyone objects to - go discover the history of the party and its members that you are starting to defend before trotting out glib nonsensical comments.

People chose to ignore the nasty aspects of what the BNP stands for, of the links they had to Combat 18 and the National Front, because it is 'only a protest vote'. What wank pissweak state of mind could possibly fail to see the BNP for what it is? That, despite all the evidence of it being a party riddled and driven by moronic criminal thugs, retards still persist in trying to defend it.

The BNP is a racist organisation - the evidence is more than overwhelming. Choose to ignore it if you wish but don't act surprised when people take the piss out of you for it.

Two types of people vote BNP - bigots and the crassly stupid (who may in turn be bigots as well).

[Guest]

What about that lovely gentleman who has spread his AIDs around Leicester??? I believe he wouldn't even be here if we had ANY sort of immigration law.

We do have immigration law. You should take some time out and read up on it. It's what I'm doing.

People living here and losing their jobs in the thousands don't give a toss about Britons who moved abroad.

Many of them don't even care about immigration as such.

What they care about is finding their own jobs disappearing only to find fewer new ones starting up with masses of immigrant labour while they are sidelined due to the lower wages or the scandal of anti-white discrimination and no job at all.

They care that funds which once paid the household bills now leave them short while foreigners walk away from £110,000-odd credit card debts and get given four and five bedroomed houses to live in when they haven't even contributed to the system.

As an individual I sympathise with The Singh's viewpoint and don't believe for one minute that the problems would be nearly so acute if his attitudes prevailed.

But I warned that the surge of anger is increasing not long ago and at about the time when even the black leader of the Commission for Racial Equality was saying how concerned he was that the tide of white jobless was stopped to avoid an escalation of difficulties - or words to that effect.

I cannot ever remember hearing such a statement before from anyone who has historically been concerned about looking after the welfare of non-whites so the situation has to be raising concern.

And I'd go further. I think The Singh's words of caution are too late. The damage has been done. Native white working class people are feeling a sense of hopelessness and abandonment. They are telling me so every single day when previously I wouldn't hear such a conversation once in 12 months. The number of desperate people selling me anything they can get hold of for a few bob is far greater than I've ever known before in over 20 years of dealing.

But still people defend even more immigration, even more strain on our social services and there's even word now that people's land is going to be compulsorarily purchased from nationals to make way for gypsy sites.

All the PC and institutional brainwashing in the world doesn't alter the reality out there.

The ideals are fine but the gun has been overloaded and has backfired.

English people don't hate foreigners. Generally they are the most hospitable of people. As you mention they are islanders and have been meeting and trading with foreigners for thousands of years.

But they do hate being made to feel like second class citizens in what was once their own land. A land that has and is being effectively redistributed by the idealistic and misguided Marxists of the Labour Party.

A Labour Party that will end up hitting its own core supporters harder than they've ever known.

Sorry Thrac, but who puts these ideas into people's heads? It wouldn't be the media, would it?

The facts are simple:

The number of immigrants applying to live and work in the UK is going down.

The number of applicants seeking asylum is at its lowest since 1993, and a quarter of that in 2002.

Economic migrants do not get handouts from the State.

Of course asylum seekers are giving access to accommodation and benefits, but once they have been given the right to remain, they become part of the system, and are able to contribute in their own way, i.e. work. It wouldn't be fair on a family who have fled for their safety with nothing if it was otherwise. As for "families fleeing massive debts", you get these kinds who are indigenous to this country doing that as well, they just don't end up on the front pages of the Sun or Daily Mail.

We don't have to let migrants into this country, I'm surprised you haven't raised the issue of Europe again. Given the current economic climate, our government can protect the indigenous workforce, however our problems with "people coming here and taking our jobs" has nothing to do with immigration. It's more to do with the indigenous population who refuse to get off their arses and get a job, rather than living at yours and my expense. Did you know that economic migrants tend to work at the very bottom or the higher end of the job market, which doesn't affect the majority of the people who read the crap about having their jobs taken away in the first place?

I could go on, but I've got to dash!

[hairy]

Could anyone PM me the link please. Would love to have a gander.

[Floating Fox]

Can somone PM me a link plz, my village is ran by the scumbags! <_<

No we should let them carry out their threats,and live in this Country

Dont want to upset them

Sooo we take all ethnics out of the country to remove a small (But large for their numbers!) threat?

Take all Football Fans out to remove Hooliganism?

can you explain why are we such a target now ?

Erm? War in Iraq? Afghanistan? Can't keep out noses out of other countries troubles. We've Killed plenty of innocent Muslims.

Fook the 20% of young "British" muslims who support the taliban and hardline Islamic fundamentalists

If thats about the ones who "Sympathise" with the attacks, So do I. I'm not saying it's right, but I can certainly see why they did it.

This country would goto hell (And I thought it had already been fed to the dogs) if the BNP got into power.

[Bazaldo]

We do have immigration law. You should take some time out and read up on it. It's what I'm doing.

We do indeed but one that clearly doesn't work.

Didn't Labour admit not so long ago that they really didnt have a clue how many were coming here, i'd ignore their made up figures. Makes them look good to the majority who believe these people should now be turned away.

People who are here are here and nothing against that, except illegal immigrants who just appeared here overnight.

They should be deported, they came here against our laws.

When does this country turn round and say "no more" isn't there a total limit to how many people can live here?

Or shall we build new houses in green belts to accomodate?

Where does it end?

[Tilley]

I feel left out,

Will somone PM me the link please

[AmericanScott]

I feel left out,

Will somone PM me the link please

Was about to PM you and a few others asking for the link but the page has been removed.

[Alexikokopops]

My workmate's half-Malaysian mate has found his uncle on there

[Phube]

You might as well call all Socialists Nazis.

Well they are...

Nazi Party = National Socialist Party

[Floating Fox]

My workmate's half-Malaysian mate has found his uncle on there

Quality

[Guest]

We do indeed but one that clearly doesn't work.

Didn't Labour admit not so long ago that they really didnt have a clue how many were coming here, i'd ignore their made up figures. Makes them look good to the majority who believe these people should now be turned away.

People who are here are here and nothing against that, except illegal immigrants who just appeared here overnight.

They should be deported, they came here against our laws.

When does this country turn round and say "no more" isn't there a total limit to how many people can live here?

Or shall we build new houses in green belts to accomodate?

Where does it end?

Why does it "clearly not work"? Because you read some crap in a red top telling you this?

I don't know if you are aware of this, but the UK is an island; it is quite easy to "get in" if you really wanted to.

We have had a problem with illegal immigrants for a long time, yes even longer than you've been on this planet. This isn't a new problem, it's just one that someone, with an agenda, has decided to highlight. Yes ladies and gentlemen, the bandwagon is rolling!

The problem with illegal immigrants will not be solved by toughening up immigration rules. These people are already ignoring them, so all toughening up does is to make it harder for legitimate cases to succeed. The laws need to address the problems of those who are illegally employing people who shouldn't be here. They are the ones who are costing the taxpayer, not the immigrants. You also have to consider that when I say "employing", I don't just mean people working in sweatshops, a lot of these illegals are being used for things like prostitution, drug running etc. People try to come here for a better life, and end up being exploited by scumbags (usually British citizens) for a pittance. Surely these are the problems that need to be addressed?

As not being able to cope with numbers, birth rates are on the decline, my textbook quotes figures that show that more people are leaving the UK than are entering it legitimately, so I think your argument is somewhat flawed.

[Floating Fox]

As not being able to cope with numbers, birth rates are on the decline, my textbook quotes figures that show that more people are leaving the UK than are entering it legitimately, so I think your argument is somewhat flawed.

Who could blame 'em!

[Guest]

Who could blame 'em!

This is what really pisses me off with the whole immigration debate is that we, as a nation, are so hypocritical about it. We bemoan people coming here, then in the next breath talk about moving to the antipodes, or retiring in the Med! Every summer, thousands of young adults from Britain flood the jobs markets in Mediterranean resorts, with the intention of getting drunk and making an arse of themselves, but that's alright. There's not just British ghettos out there, there are whole towns full of ex-pats, all speaking English, eating fry-ups and roast dinners in English bars, but that's ok. Yet a Polish bar opens up on Narborough Road, and you'd think it was the beginning of an invasion!!

[Floating Fox]

This is what really pisses me off with the whole immigration debate is that we, as a nation, are so hypocritical about it. We bemoan people coming here, then in the next breath talk about moving to the antipodes, or retiring in the Med! Every summer, thousands of young adults from Britain flood the jobs markets in Mediterranean resorts, with the intention of getting drunk and making an arse of themselves, but that's alright. There's not just British ghettos out there, there are whole towns full of ex-pats, all speaking English, eating fry-ups and roast dinners in English bars, but that's ok. Yet a Polish bar opens up on Narborough Road, and you'd think it was the beginning of an invasion!!

Sane people.