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The Stig

Formula 1 Thread 2009

By The Stig, in General Football and Sport

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Uncle Albert

Uncle Albert

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What a complete waste of time today's race was.

This.

I'm glad I feel asleep for 27 laps only wish it was more.

This season has been poor I think.

DJ Barry Hammond

DJ Barry Hammond

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What a complete waste of time today's race was.

Make it interesting. Get the fire engine service to hose down the track on some of the corners. :D

Considering how merky it was, I was thinking 'it's gonna rain soon, then it will be interesting' for about 40 laps. I think the problem with the KERS is that the drivers control it. Give the KERS buttons to people at home, to press whenever they want, then we'll see an interesting race! :D

isaidno

isaidno

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F1 needs shaking up. All Mosely and Ecclestone are concerned about is the money. That's why we go to China, Bahrain Abu Dabhi etc and have dropped the brilliant tracks like Estoril, Kylami, Imola & Montreal. The rival championship have allready spoken to Montreal about going back next season :scarf:

hairy

hairy

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All sorted now on the back of Mosely having to quit! He must be very popular

No. Hold the back page. They have said naughty things back him so he is threatening to stay! Dont you just love F1. I hope he stays, its much more fun with him around. Anyone see him shaking a black man's hand (Hamilton Senior) with a grimice at the Britsh GP? Class. What would Grandpa have had to say about that?

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SOCCERROO FOX

SOCCERROO FOX

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F1 needs shaking up. All Mosely and Ecclestone are concerned about is the money. That's why we go to China, Bahrain Abu Dabhi etc and have dropped the brilliant tracks like Estoril, Kylami, Imola & Montreal. The rival championship have allready spoken to Montreal about going back next season :scarf:

You would much prefer to go to the Albert Park circuit than Montreal :D

Jimmy

Jimmy

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I watched PTi on ESPN America last night and they were taking about to comments Bernie made about Hitler! has this been completely missed by the British media? I haven't heard a thing

hairy

hairy

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Oswald Mosley was Max's dad.

My bad. Even worse then

I watched PTi on ESPN America last night and they were taking about to comments Bernie made about Hitler! has this been completely missed by the British media? I haven't heard a thing

So what did Bernie say?

Jimmy

Jimmy

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My bad. Even worse then

So what did Bernie say?

something like Hitler was convinced to do things he didn't really want to, and despite all the bad things you have to admire how he got things done

isaidno

isaidno

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Eight of the major Formula 1 teams are continuing with plans to set up a breakaway championship next year.

F1 was thrown into confusion when the eight teams in the rebel umbrella group Fota were told on Wednesday they were not entered in the 2010 championship.

"We have to keep our options open," said BMW F1 boss Mario Theissen. "We are working in both directions.

"It is part of the ongoing negotiations and we can only hope it will be sorted out," he added.

Theissen said the teams had been caught by surprise when FIA technical delegate Charlie Whiting told their engineers in the meeting that they could not have an input into a discussion on finalising next year's rules because they did not have entries.

Whiting's statement contradicted an announcement by the FIA's world council on 24 June which listed the eight Fota teams - McLaren, Ferrari, Renault, BMW, Toyota, Brawn, Red Bull and Toro Rosso - as confirmed entries.

It's somewhat confusing to have been accepted as an entrant and then suddenly it looks different again

BMW F1 boss Mario Theissen

That statement had come after Max Mosley, president of F1's governing body the FIA, had reached a compromise deal with Fota chairman and Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo and F1 commercial boss Bernie Ecclestone.

As part of that agreement, the outline of next year's rules was set, the teams agreed to commit to F1 until 2012, Mosley's plan for a £40m budget cap was replaced with an agreement to reduce costs to "mid-1990s levels" by Fota's methods and the FIA president agreed not to stand again for the governing body's presidence in October's elections.

Theissen said: "It's somewhat confusing to have been accepted as an entrant and then suddenly it looks different again."

Fota said in a statement after Wednesday's meeting that the FIA's new stance had "put the future of Formula 1 in jeopardy".

But after the FIA put out a lengthy statement on Thursday detailing its side of the argument, the bosses of the Fota teams were taking a more conciliatory line as they arrived at the Nurburgring ahead of Sunday's European Grand Prix.

Theissen described the FIA's latest move as "irritating", but added: "I wouldn't exaggerate it."

It is understood that the teams are trying to negotiate a new commercial settlement with CVC, the venture capital group that owns the commercial rights to F1, at the same time as finalising with Mosley and Ecclestone a new Concorde Agreement, the document that binds them to the sport and which enshrines their rights.

The FIA statement ended by saying: "At present, it seems probable that a final draft of the 2009 Concorde Agreement will be agreed and be ready for signature in the coming days."

But Fota insiders insist they will break away from F1 if Mosley tries to renege on what was agreed in Paris last month.

After the Fota teams left the meeting on Wednesday after it was made clear to them that they would not be allowed to participate in discussions, the remaining teams rubber-stamped all the rules that had been proposed and agreed by the F1 Teams' Association.

Time is running out for the men who have ruled F1 for the past few decades

Those left at the meeting were current teams Williams and Force India and the three new teams - Manor, US F1 and Campos.

Manor technical director Nick Wirth, who has a close relationship with Mosley, told BBC Sport: "The five teams left, all agreed it unanimously. I can see, despite hubris, that there is commonality on the technical side.

"There is discussion about a new Concorde Agreement but the fact is the technical regulations are an appendix of the Concorde Agreement - so if you want a new Concorde Agreement, you need to agree technical regulations. It's almost like a chicken and egg (situation) at the moment.

"There is a lot of tension and antagonism but I hope everything will calm down.

"Actually, I am quite confident it will. I'm confident on technical agreement - we will not have two sets of rules - and I hope and believe we will have progress in the next few days."

Just when you thought the war was over :o

hairy

hairy

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I don't think the sponsors are likely to be impressed...

Or CVC the owners who paid Ecclestone a reported £1.6 billion for it two years ago.

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