davieG Posted 16 January 2009 Posted 16 January 2009 What makes me smile is that people say the Unions were too strong and had to be tamed yet if they'd come up with this as a reason for not working/driving they'd have been laughed out of the board room. A Christian bus driver has refused to drive a bus with an atheist slogan proclaiming "There's probably no God". Ron Heather, from Southampton, Hampshire, responded with "shock" and "horror" at the message and walked out of his shift on Saturday in protest. First Bus said it would do everything in its power to ensure Mr Heather does not have to drive the buses. Buses across Britain started displaying atheist messages in an advertising campaign launched earlier this month. Mr Heather told BBC Radio Solent: "I was just about to board and there it was staring me in the face, my first reaction was shock horror. "I felt that I could not drive that bus, I told my managers and they said they haven't got another one and I thought I better go home, so I did. Mr Heather said he was shocked at the "starkness" of the advert "I think it was the starkness of this advert which implied there was no God." When he returned to work on Monday he was called into a meeting with managers and agreed to go back to work with the promise he would only have to drive the buses if there were no others available. First Bus said in a statement: "As a company we understand Mr Heather's views regarding the atheist bus advert and we are doing what we can to accommodate his request not to drive the buses concerned." It added: "As an organisation we don't endorse any of the products or sentiments advertised on our buses. "The content of this advert has been approved by the Advertising Standards Agency and therefore it is capable of being posted on static sites or anywhere else." The advertising campaign is backed by the British Humanist Association and prominent atheist, Professor Richard Dawkins. Hanne Stinson, chief executive of the British Humanist Association, said: "I have difficulty understanding why people with particular religious beliefs find the expression of a different sort of beliefs to be offensive. "I can't understand why some people seem to have a different attitude when it comes to atheists." Pressure group Christian Voice has questioned the campaign's effectiveness but the Methodist Church said it would be a "good thing if it gets people to engage with the deepest questions of life" and suggested it showed there was a "continued interest in God". The advertisements run on 200 bendy buses in London and 600 vehicles in England, Scotland and Wales.
The People's Hero Posted 16 January 2009 Posted 16 January 2009 What a pr1ck. They should run him over with the bus.
Dr The Singh Posted 16 January 2009 Posted 16 January 2009 What a pr1ck.They should run him over with the bus. That's one way of getting him ot his god!!!
The People's Hero Posted 16 January 2009 Posted 16 January 2009 Should have sacked him on the spot. Let him throw himself on the mercy of his God.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 16 January 2009 Posted 16 January 2009 As if I hadn't had enough being lectured by religious zealots, I now often feel like I'm being brainwashed by atheist zealots. Can everyone not chill out a bit?
The People's Hero Posted 16 January 2009 Posted 16 January 2009 As if I hadn't had enough being lectured by religious zealots, I now often feel like I'm being brainwashed by atheist zealots.Can everyone not chill out a bit? No. It's nearly the weekend. Where do I apply to be a zealot? Are they a bit like robots?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 16 January 2009 Posted 16 January 2009 As if I hadn't had enough being lectured by religious zealots, I now often feel like I'm being brainwashed by atheist zealots.Can everyone not chill out a bit? At times like this I always want to post the bit from Life of Brian where Spike Milligan picks up Brian's sandal and say's "Wait!" Unfortunately no evidence of it on YouTube.
cisono Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 What an excuse to not work Well, I don't know... shouldn't atheists and believers have the same rights? But anyway, interesting how a companies choose to display messages they do not agree with. Sell your soul... (sorry if this statement offends any atheists or believers or indeed anyone at all)
Vacamion Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 To be fair to the bus, it IS correct. Well, probably...
StanSP Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Has there actually been any proof of God existing?? Anyone actually seen Him?
Vacamion Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Has there actually been any proof of God existing??Anyone actually seen Him? Once upon a time, some dude saw a tree on fire that talked to him, so, err, yes...
StanSP Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Yeah but you're going by word of mouth. We can talk about the concept of God, but not God Himself. And Moses could have been hallucinating. There's loads of possibilities against the existence of God.
Asha Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Has there actually been any proof of God existing??Anyone actually seen Him? Has there actually been any proof against God existing?
Phube Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Has there actually been any proof against God existing? It's almost impossible to prove a negative! Hence the "probably" doesn't exist! Prove to me that what I see as red, isn't what you see as blue?
Asha Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 It's almost impossible to prove a negative! Hence the "probably" doesn't exist!Prove to me that what I see as red, isn't what you see as blue? That's my point. I know you can't prove either way if God exists or not, hence religion being based on FAITH and BELIEF. But that's a stupid example really, as for example, the song 'Who are we? Blue Army' sort of suggests we all recognise Leicester are playing in blue, so half the fans clearly aren't seeing us in red.
Finchy Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 If God is real and he created us, who created God? Then who created the geeza who created God? And so on....not worth thinking about to be fair.
StanSP Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 If God is real and he created us, who created God? Then who created the geeza who created God? And so on....not worth thinking about to be fair. All about the infinite regress that. But believers see God as the perfect creator. So he didn't need creating. He is so far better than us, that he doesn't need a creator.
Finchy Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 But believers see God as the perfect creator. So he didn't need creating. He is so far better than us, that he doesn't need a creator. Pfft sounds like these so called believers can't answer a question, so they've just made so crazy sh*t up
Asha Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 FoxForever, I take it that you doubt the existence of God. Just out of interest mate, regarding the message in your signature 'Till I die, and thereafter'...what do you believe 'thereafter' will actually be if you don't believe in God, and therefore heaven/hell.
StanSP Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Reincarnation. Become a differnt life form in the next life. I'm not saying he doesn't exist at all. I'm just saying that it is very hard to prove his existence.
Asha Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Reincarnation. Become a differnt life form in the next life.I'm not saying he doesn't exist at all. I'm just saying that it is very hard to prove his existence. Fair enough. You're right though, it's hard to prove his existence. As a sort of believer, I admit that.
StanSP Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Can I just say, although what I say is always going to be controversial, I don't mean to offend anyone in the slightest. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and I fully respect that
Asha Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 Can I just say, although what I say is always going to be controversial, I don't mean to offend anyone in the slightest.Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and I fully respect that I'll concur that. I perfectly understand why people doubt the existance of God, I do myself a lot. Hence why I said I'm a 'sort of' believer. I don't want to follow a religious life only to find at the end that there actually isn't a heaven/hell. Any belief in the existance of God that I have probably stems from the fact my dad is a priest though.
Granno Posted 17 January 2009 Posted 17 January 2009 I've just seen God in Morrisons on Freemans Common! There's yer proof.
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