Is the moon a giant space station...?

[Collymore]

Well the Belgium's took it so serious that they chased a UFO in their fighter jets! It was too quick though

[Edmund]

identical? i think that is unlikely, similar in certain ways perhaps, but identical is almost impossible - it has too many incredibly unusual charcteristics not to be considered very special.

When I say identical I don't mean literally identical in terms of same hills, crators etc as these are caused by meteors but im talking in terms of same make up for example atmosphere, rock, in a gravity pull of a planet similar to ours.

[Number 6]

The moon is slowly drifting away from us anyway, maybe these aliens are planning to leave?

[Edmund]

The moon is slowly drifting away from us anyway, maybe these aliens are planning to leave?

It's because the net force isn't exactly towards the Earth. The moon pulls tides on Earth. There is a high tide almost directly underneath the moon, and another high tide on the opposite side of the Earth. I say almost because as the Earth rotates, the buldge created by the moon is pulled forward slightly. This means that the Earth is not a perfect sphere, and the moon itself gets pulled mostly towards the Earth, but a tiny bit in the direction it is orbiting.

This results in the moon's orbit gaining energy and that causes it to spiral out. The effect is very small, something like an inch per year, but builds up over millions of years since millions of inches is a lot of miles. The other thing that happens is that the Earth's rotation slows down a little bit. Again, a very small amount, but enough that over millions of years it adds up.

Some theorise that the moon used to be a lot closer and the Earth's day was 12-18 hours long. In the distant future, after the moon spirals out more, and the Earth's rotation slows and becomes the same as the moon's orbital period, the moon will no longer spiral out. The system will be tidally locked. But other bad things (such as the Sun expandinging into a red giant and engulfing the Earth) are probably in store for Earth long before this has a chance of happening.

[hairy]

The moon is slowly drifting away from us anyway, maybe these aliens are planning to leave?

Cant blame them. Whats the point in staying when Hayles doesn't get a regular first team place

[Trav Le Bleu]

No life form could exist on/in the moon.

I beg to differ!

Well the Belgium's took it so serious that they chased a UFO in their fighter jets! It was too quick though

Surely anything is faster than a Belgian fighter jet?

[Lillehamring]

When I say identical I don't mean literally identical in terms of same hills, crators etc as these are caused by meteors but im talking in terms of same make up for example atmosphere, rock, in a gravity pull of a planet similar to ours.

no, i appreciate that - but still it has many freaky things that aren't normal - its position, its orbit, its density, its resonance... many many things, to find another moon with so many idiosyncracies is extremely unlikely...

and, hairy (?), yes there are millions of stars , in the same way as there are millions of snow flakes...but the point is, as above, that there are a lot of weird attributes to the moon that are unlikely to be repeated elsewhere in such a combination.

is it extra-terrestrial, probably not, but who knows....

[BoneDog]

I want whatever he's on.

In regards to ufo sightings, what a load of bull-shite. There is definitely other intelligent life forms out there in the universe but most probably to far away to know that we exist or ever know that we exist. Ufo sightings were the result of the cold war and the U.S government using hollywood as a scapegoat to test new aircraft.

How come everyone but NASA report sightings of UFO, come on they have technology to take pictures of galaxies, I doubt they would miss an aircraft orbiting in our atmosphere.

The moon is just the moon and there our predicted to be thousands of identical moons to ours orbiting planets very much like our earth in our own galaxy. There is actually proof of a solar system similar to ours within our own galaxy they have detected but thousands of light years away.

Heres a good read on the moon :

http://www.astronomycast.com/astronomy/epi...moon-come-from/

Don't trust NASA to tell you the truth. They are just another branch of the government. And we all KNOW that our governments are lying b#stards. Why anyone would trust these people is beyond me (and prof Hoagland, McKinney, Arthur C Clarke and hundreds of others.

)

[Number 6]

It's because the net force isn't exactly towards the Earth. The moon pulls tides on Earth. There is a high tide almost directly underneath the moon, and another high tide on the opposite side of the Earth. I say almost because as the Earth rotates, the buldge created by the moon is pulled forward slightly. This means that the Earth is not a perfect sphere, and the moon itself gets pulled mostly towards the Earth, but a tiny bit in the direction it is orbiting.

This results in the moon's orbit gaining energy and that causes it to spiral out. The effect is very small, something like an inch per year, but builds up over millions of years since millions of inches is a lot of miles. The other thing that happens is that the Earth's rotation slows down a little bit. Again, a very small amount, but enough that over millions of years it adds up.

Some theorise that the moon used to be a lot closer and the Earth's day was 12-18 hours long. In the distant future, after the moon spirals out more, and the Earth's rotation slows and becomes the same as the moon's orbital period, the moon will no longer spiral out. The system will be tidally locked. But other bad things (such as the Sun expandinging into a red giant and engulfing the Earth) are probably in store for Earth long before this has a chance of happening.

3.8cms, but as you said, The Sun will probably be dead before this really affects Earth

[Number 6]

no, i appreciate that - but still it has many freaky things that aren't normal - its position, its orbit, its density, its resonance... many many things, to find another moon with so many idiosyncracies is extremely unlikely...

and, hairy (?), yes there are millions of stars , in the same way as there are millions of snow flakes...but the point is, as above, that there are a lot of weird attributes to the moon that are unlikely to be repeated elsewhere in such a combination.

is it extra-terrestrial, probably not, but who knows....

there are many more stars than snowflakes. Plus I doubt anyone has checked every snowflake, they are merely working on probabilities.

[hairy]

and, hairy (?), yes there are millions of stars , in the same way as there are millions of snow flakes...but the point is, as above, that there are a lot of weird attributes to the moon that are unlikely to be repeated elsewhere in such a combination.

Why the (?). Its just hairy.

is it extra-terrestrial, probably not, but who knows....

Of course its extra-terrestrial. Its the moon. Its not part of the earth.

[BoneDog]

This results in the moon's orbit gaining energy and that causes it to spiral out. The effect is very small, something like an inch per year, but builds up over millions of years since millions of inches is a lot of miles. The other thing that happens is that the Earth's rotation slows down a little bit. Again, a very small amount, but enough that over millions of years it adds up.

This rotation will slow down to a certain point this century that will result in 2 days of complete darkness for some, and light for others. Then on the 3rd day the Sun will rise from the West as the earth has been pulled into an opposite rotation. It's all in the Islamic prophecies of the end days.

You would be amazed at the mathematics involved especially when you see what scientists and astronomers are saying about the subject today. It's gonna happen I tell you.

[Edmund]

no, i appreciate that - but still it has many freaky things that aren't normal - its position, its orbit, its density, its resonance... many many things, to find another moon with so many idiosyncracies is extremely unlikely...

and, hairy (?), yes there are millions of stars , in the same way as there are millions of snow flakes...but the point is, as above, that there are a lot of weird attributes to the moon that are unlikely to be repeated elsewhere in such a combination.

is it extra-terrestrial, probably not, but who knows....

True say they are rare but they do reckon 1 in every 400 stars will form a solar system similar to ours from the surrounding dust orbiting. There are many theories that the earth was hit by a meteor which sent particles from the earth into the orbit of earth and over millions of years they collided together to form the moon. They are looking at this presently on stars from 30 million years ago.

This is a good read :

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health...se_1005983.html

[Edmund]

This rotation will slow down to a certain point this century that will result in 2 days of complete darkness for some, and light for others. Then on the 3rd day the Sun will rise from the West as the earth has been pulled into an opposite rotation. It's all in the Islamic prophecies of the end days.

You would be amazed at the mathematics involved especially when you see what scientists and astronomers are saying about the subject today. It's gonna happen I tell you.

Any links? This isn't the silly mayan calender end of the world malarky?

[Webbo]

No life form could exist on/in the moon.

Neil Armstrong did.

[BoneDog]

Any links? This isn't the silly mayan calender end of the world malarky?

No it's not the Mayan thingy, they say the 21st Decmber 2012 or 2014 can't remember. Midnight they say the suncycle ends and big catastrophe hits and we have to start again (those of us who survive).

I'll find where I read it. There was a talk by some science blokes about how the earth is slowing and what will happen when it gets to a certain speed. And the sun rising from the west is an Islam prophecy as a major sign that the end times are here. The science talk just seemed to say the same thing (and they weren't Muslim scientists). When I find it i'll post it in here.

[OriginalRobboFOX]

What utter tosh.... <_<

[BoneDog]

What utter tosh.... <_<

Don't shoot the messenger, tell the scientists it's utter tosh (can't remember what kind they are, the ones who study the magnetic forces of planets and that)

[Edmund]

Don't shoot the messenger, tell the scientists it's utter tosh (can't remember what kind they are, the ones who study the magnetic forces of planets and that)

I think he was referring to the original threads starter about the moon being a space station.

[BoneDog]

I think he was referring to the original threads starter about the moon being a space station.

Seen

I don't believe that either. As I've said, they moved off the moon thousands of years ago

[Dr The Singh]

Don't shoot the messenger, tell the scientists it's utter tosh (can't remember what kind they are, the ones who study the magnetic forces of planets and that)

El Empty you talking out of your udders again, you need to stop watching those shit you tube video and do some proper research! For the earth to slow down that much would require some sort of metoerite or event to change the earth of it's normal course, and as far as I know, no meteor will be hitting us around 2014!!!

[Edmund]

Don't trust NASA to tell you the truth. They are just another branch of the government. And we all KNOW that our governments are lying b#stards. Why anyone would trust these people is beyond me (and prof Hoagland, McKinney, Arthur C Clarke and hundreds of others.

)

I for one trust NASA to a certain extent. If there was a massive meteor to end the world then yes they might keep it secret as that would cause chaos on earth but in terms of research they go about there business and report on it. They don't gain anything from holding back information, scientists thrive on discovering new theories etc or they would look like idiots spending billions to hold back information and people would not class them as reputable.

To date NASA have released everything they have done and found, the only people who believe otherwise our people who live in this american conspiracy age where everyone is out to fook over the day to day civilian.

[BoneDog]

El Empty you talking out of your udders again, you need to stop watching those shit you tube video and do some proper research! For the earth to slow down that much would require some sort of metoerite or event to change the earth of it's normal course, and as far as I know, no meteor will be hitting us around 2014!!!

I'm not talking about 2014 or any meteor. Someone else asked if I was talking about the Mayan thing and I said no.

The Youtube videos I watch about this stuff are lectures that professors at Harvard and other places have done. I only watch them on youtube cos someone uploads them on there. I'm not getting my info from youtube vids of people farting.

How is it talking out of my udders when I'm just repeating what these professors and scientists say? The fact is that the earths rotation is slowing down and when it gets to a certain speed other factors come into play because of the mass/weight etc. of the earth and the gravitational pull of other bodies. I have done plenty of research on this kind of stuff and I am clever enough to know which people are talking with knowledge.

[BoneDog]

I for one trust NASA to a certain extent. If there was a massive meteor to end the world then yes they might keep it secret as that would cause chaos on earth but in terms of research they go about there business and report on it. They don't gain anything from holding back information, scientists thrive on discovering new theories etc or they would look like idiots spending billions to hold back information and people would not class them as reputable.

To date NASA have released everything they have done and found, the only people who believe otherwise our people who live in this american conspiracy age where everyone is out to fook over the day to day civilian.

They gain plenty from holding back info. And there are plenty of scientists from Australia to the USA (including people who have worked for NASA) who say this. Arthur C Clarke was one of the top men in this field and he always spoke out about hidden knowledge.

How do you know that 'to date NASA have released everything they have done and found'?

And if you say that anyone who questions the powers that be are stupid, I say think again. Your leaders constantly lie to you about major events and still you stick up for them. They take the p#ss and if you look at the state of the world I can't see how you wouldn't see that.

I haven't said anything bout METEORS and I don't think that's a possibility either.

[BoneDog]

It sound wacky but when you think of all the recent sightings of UFO's and you consider where they might possibly have come from, well, they do say fact can be stranger than fiction and that you should never close your mind to any possibility.

Just randomly wasting my time I found this to be fascinating reading:-

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_16.htm

Here's one for you Thracian, I've only just read your link. Some good stuff