The Damned United

[Samilktray]

Great documentary for what I saw of it.

[Webbo]

I tried to record this but for some reason it didn't. <_<

[J.Lisemore]

I tried to record this but for some reason it didn't. <_<

You missed out . Brilliant Documentary. Is it not on that ITV iplayer thingy?

[Perry Cox]

Despite the fact that we should dislike the man on principle, I find it hard not to sympathise with anyone who holds such strong beliefs on the way in which football should be played and the way life should be lived.

Oh, and the film and documentary are both quite good I'd recommend both!

[Ultra]

Despite the fact that we should dislike the man on principle, I find it hard not to sympathise with anyone who holds such strong beliefs on the way in which football should be played and the way life should be lived.

Oh, and the film and documentary are both quite good I'd recommend both!

Why? Clough's record, as player and manager, is incredible and demands respect no matter who you support.

As the film says, he was the best manager England never had.

And imagine what he could have done at a proper football club..

[BrummieFOX]

The film is on at 10pm tonight on BBC2. Brilliant book and great film.

Also a documentary following it.

[Ashley]

Why is the damned united not on my tv? Some program about the coast is

[ScouseFox]

Everything's about 15 minutes behind on BBC2 because of the tennis earlier. So it'll start in a minute.

[Ashley]

Everything's about 15 minutes behind on BBC2 because of the tennis earlier. So it'll start in a minute.

Thanks mate

[sdb]

Great book, decent film. Didn't quite capture the darkness of the novel for me but that's usually the way.

[RedHux]

You have to remember it's work of fiction, not a documentary on Clough. David Peace wrote a novel around real characters but written after the majority of them had passed away. He had no idea what actually went on, which is teh reason Johnny Giles and Clugh's family have all got involved to say it wasn't actually like that.

This ^^^^^^ a million times this.

Love the documentary that always follows this though. Gets me every time.

[Fox92]

I don't like the film, theres so many swear words its unreal and I don't think he would have been like that. Its just the writer writing what he thought, far from a documentary like a previous poster said, hence it was critized by the family of Brian Clough.

Love the documentary that always follows this though. Gets me every time.

Yes same here

I think Brian Clough's sensational managerial career may have overshadowed his sensational career as a footballer; 251 goals in 274 games is unbelievable but fantastic.

Never the less though, his career as a manager was great, and achieved things at clubs that will never be done again, such as, winning promotion with Nottingham Forest and then winning the first division the year after. Theres no doubt, Clough was a genius, and as a football fan, I'll always look up to him.

And, he should have been England manager.

[CosbehFox]

This ^^^^^^ a million times this.

Love the documentary that always follows this though. Gets me every time.

If you've read David Peace's Red Riding series, you can see his eye for imagination. I read them shortly after the Damned United and have gone off him a bit. I hear he's attempted a character assasination of Geoffrey Boycott next

I don't like the film, theres so many swear words its unreal

Are you really 18?

[Guest Bilo]

If you've read David Peace's Red Riding series, you can see his eye for imagination. I read them shortly after the Damned United and have gone off him a bit. I hear he's attempted a character assasination of Geoffrey Boycott next.

You ought to read GB84 as well, his representation of David Hart is very thinly veiled and makes the portrayal of Clough seem reverential by comparison.

I agree with Alexikokopops, we need to remember first of all that The Damned United is a fiction and we should also remember that even with that borne in mind, Clough wasn't Jesus. He was very much a flawed genius. His managerial brilliance, progressive policy towards appointing black players and love of the game was tempered by his alcoholism, homophobia and unbridled arrogance and megalomania that turned him into a liability by the time he retired.

[Fox92]

Are you really 18?

I was referring to the use of swear words. I don't think, and I can't see him, swearing that many times. That is all, regardless of my age even though I'm not 18.