Flynny Posted 12 March 2009 Posted 12 March 2009 Can everyone who went to uni just stop a moment, put their hands up and be honest with me.We went for the poon, okay? Prrft, that was only about 50% of the reason. Maybe 60. I made some friends at university that I'm still good friends with 16 years on, so I cannot say it was a COMPLETE waste of time, but it was a waste of time in that I hated nearly every minute of it and was depressed most of the time. I think I would have had a better time if I'd gone to a slightly shitter university, and met more of own kind. Oh god this, I almost forgot. At Bristol there's almost no working class. A lot of ex-poly's and middle-tier uni's are much less full of posh arseholes like this place is, and a lot of them put in a good deal more effort because they really want to climb the league tables. The 'better' uni's aren't having to try so hard, the aspirational ones further down are much more concerned with pleasing you and much less likely to be mostly full of rich, clever, lazy people who couldn't quite make Oxford and will irritate the actual fuck out of you.
Finnegan Posted 12 March 2009 Posted 12 March 2009 Prrft, that was only about 50% of the reason. Maybe 60. lol
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Where are you Ash? Got any opinions? Don't provoke him and he'll keep himself quiet. Going next year now, decided to take a year out an work, get some scratch for myself.
Samilktray Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Don't provoke him and he'll keep himself quiet. Well said.
Nationwider Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 It's alright, I suppose. I got two degrees and now have a decent job that has bugger all to do with the actual academic prizes I won. I'd have a plan and go with an eye on what you might like to do afterwards, rather than just for the grotty, elbowy, kebab-addled student sex. The shame of morning-after-kebab-sex-walk-home is just too horrific for words. The problem with university is there's too many people there. I generally don't like people and they tarnished the experience. To summarise, definitely go, but go somewhere nice. You get certificates at the end too.
Finnegan Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 It's alright, I suppose. I got two degrees and now have a decent job that has bugger all to do with the actual academic prizes I won. I'd have a plan and go with an eye on what you might like to do afterwards, rather than just for the grotty, elbowy, kebab-addled student sex. The shame of morning-after-kebab-sex-walk-home is just too horrific for words.The problem with university is there's too many people there. I generally don't like people and they tarnished the experience. To summarise, definitely go, but go somewhere nice. You get certificates at the end too. And a fabulous hat for a day, remember the hat. The only thing I regret about dropping out is missing out on that fabulous hat.
Shrenchel Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Oh god this, I almost forgot. At Bristol there's almost no working class. A lot of ex-poly's and middle-tier uni's are much less full of posh arseholes like this place is, and a lot of them put in a good deal more effort because they really want to climb the league tables. The 'better' uni's aren't having to try so hard, the aspirational ones further down are much more concerned with pleasing you and much less likely to be mostly full of rich, clever, lazy people who couldn't quite make Oxford and will irritate the actual fuck out of you. Bristol uni is full of cretins. Living in Bristol for 20 years almost put me off going uni for life. Bunch of ****** who have the money for oxford but not the brains trotting round in butters scarves, kissing their male friends on the cheek to greet them and guffawing about the girl they're gunna have over for 'supper'. Most the UWE lads seem to be alright though, any students I chatted to at any decent nights would generally be UWE boys.
ozleicester Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Why is the assumption made, that you can only grow up and have a great time (read, get poon) if you go to Uni? If you aged between 18-23 you can have all that where ever you are. If you have a career in mind that requires uni training, go do it, if not, go out, get a job and grow up, have fun and find poon without wasting the tens of thousands of pounds. There is a fair chance by the time you are 35, you will have changed careers 4 times and will go to uni to become whatever the 5th one is to be.
Zingari Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Right not commented on a thread like this for a while but this is how I sum it up, It has been pretty much mentioned early on in the thread, The fact that most people or from people in educations point of view your a failure if you don't go onto further education, your "thick", your a "dosser", e.t.c.No. I did an apprenticeship, got a job as soon as I left school, and I now have a job for life, If I wanted and go bored of what I currently do I can do something else, but always have a trade, something handy and something everybody will need at some point. Also it's not just one tunnel vision opportunity for me, being in a trade leads to so many other trades, if, when or should I want to. I have earnt, worked, and from my experience of "uni people" of the people I know who have been uni compared to people who left school, got a job, did an apprenticeship, e.t.c (Perhaps generalizing abit there) the people who didn't go uni have a hell of alot more common sense, just on basic things. And i'm not in thousands of debt. Thing that really annoys me, winds me up, and make me see uni people as "dossers", "lazy gits", e.t.c, Is a few people I know who have been uni and they pass there course for Police, Solicitor, Accounting, e.t.c they complete it have a few months off - Because they've worked sooo hard, get a job, do a few months, quit there job, go back to uni for another few years doing a totally different course because "it's not what they really wanted". As I have said that is in my experience of uni people from people I know/Know off, I'm not sure if this is a common case? I know I was lucky that I have always known what I wanted to do, I've done it, and i'm still happy working in my job, and I know some people don't know what they want to do, but to just keep doing course after course - None of which relate or are similar makes me laugh a little, and surely you can understand how it seems a little pointless?! Personally i'm on the side of no Uni, but it is totally up to you, Depends what course you are doing? Will it be worthwhile? Would you need it? Would you use it? e.t.c I'm actually very surprised but in a good way they are actually advertising Apprenticeships on TV, I mean, it's not the done thing is it? You can't leave school, go straight into a job and learn at the same time? Can you? They must be thick the people doing them well said university has become nothing more than a work avoidance scheme for a sizeable proportion of students . our education system is a fantastic thing but ( and i'm talking from my own personal observations of people i know ) it is sadly abused
Guest Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 well said university has become nothing more than a work avoidance scheme for a sizeable proportion of students . our education system is a fantastic thing but ( and i'm talking from my own personal observations of people i know ) it is sadly abused Like everything else in this country then.....
Stevosevic Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Go to a "good" uni, get a 2:1 then you will have a very good chance of getting a graduate job. Then hopefully, earn a very respectable wage/do something you really enjoy. Oh, and along the way you will have the best 3/4 years of your life, meet some fantastic people, become independent and hold some fantastic memories. Do it. P.S - If you can, do a sandwich course, it will give you an advantage when you graduate.
BigGibbo Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Go to a "good" uni, get a 2:1 then you will have a very good chance of getting a graduate job. Then hopefully, earn a very respectable wage/do something you really enjoy. Oh, and along the way you will have the best 3/4 years of your life, meet some fantastic people, become independent and hold some fantastic memories. Do it. P.S - If you can, do a sandwich course, it will give you an advantage when you graduate. What is a sandwich course? I've heard of these!
Stevosevic Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 What is a sandwich course? I've heard of these! Usually a 4 year course, where the 3rd year is spent in industry gaining valuable experience.
BigGibbo Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Usually a 4 year course, where the 3rd year is spent in industry gaining valuable experience. Sound cheers. Wish I'd have given that a go.
Lillehamring Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 ok, well i have been to uni on three seperate occasions, and finally completed the last one - each one of my attempts offers a different perspective on whether to go to uni or not... 1. straight from school and with no intention of going to uni i couldn't find a job i wanted to do so i got in to leicester *cough* poly through clearing. i lasted 1 semester. the course was impossible and boring and 99% of the students on it were from elsewhere living in halls or digs, i was stuck at home in great glen, so i didn't really interact very much, and kinda got left out of the whole experience. 2. a year later, i wanted to move to london to be in a band, and yea i abused the system, as it was during the days of grants not loans, so it was a perfect way to relocate without having to get a job. i formed a band and dropped out after a year, mainly because, again, the course was really boring. 3. fast forward, 2004, stuck in a bank for five years in leicester, i wanted to move back to london, but EVERY job i considered going for would not even interview candidates without a degree (some kind of pre screening shortcut i guess), so two birds, one stone... i went to uni in london to get that degree. only this time i picked a course that interested me, also i picked a joint degree so as to maximise variety. without doing this i wouldn't be living my idyllic scandinavian life with my patridge-esque-back-of-the-net missus so, there is a lesson to be learnt there, that most people seem to have mentioned already - place and course - if you get those right it will be worth it, if not, three years can be a prison sentence. yes, degreres are very commom these days, and as i discovered, many employers will use that to filter off a percentage of all job applicants, it allows a certain 'valid' discrimination. for what it's worth, i believe you will study better if you do take a year or two out, in fact i think anyone considering going to uni should work for a bit and save up some money before they start, it will only enhance the enjoyment - when you get to university the difference between ages becomes almost non-existent so don't let that put you off either. anyway, lykke til to all those taking exams or moving away in the coming months....
James. Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 You could argue forever about how universities aren't what they used to be or how you did just fine by going straight into a job for life or how people just go there to mess around. Blah blah blah. The bottom line is there's more to life than a career and there's more to university than a degree. People who don't go ARE missing out. Who gives a f**k about the debt, you'll pay it off if you work hard enough when you leave. Just go there and have an absolutely brilliant time. Do shit you never thought you'd do and make some of the best friends you'll ever have.
Fosse Boy Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Uni isn't for everyone and there are, in my opinion, far too many people who go for the wrong reasons because their school shoves UCAS UCAS UCAS down their throats to make their own statistics look good. Don't let anyone pressure you in to doing one thing or the other, make a personal decision. If you think there is a course you'll enjoy and will actually help you get out in the world of work after three years then you should definitely go for it. It's great fun. Oh, and listen to lots of Blur...
Ford Super Sunday Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Are you in your first year? I also do Journalism (and English) at DMU. I'm in my 2nd year though. That was my favourite assignment last year and I based it on a 4-niler as well: the Norwich home game.I liked my first year but it seems to have gone a bit stale this term, which may be down to having a different tutor. They're making a big thing about DMU being up there with the best uni's at the moment according to recent research - I think English is ranked 9th and Media 15th. Yeah I am a dirty first yearer. (I hope you have Tor... he is what makes journalism so good! ) I actually didnt enjoy that one as much as I have others. Maybe it was becuase I felt pressure, as someone who loves sport, and writes about sport (I do match reports for the American Football team in the Demon, and am doing the rugby varsity.) This year in journalism has been good. Media has been stale this year for me. As I get to choose my topics in media next year, I hope its better than this year, which has been a bit dry, especially as I havent found much of the media side interesting. DMU does seem to have excellent facilities, and they are always investing in new computing. Their teaching is good too. They havent got nobodies, but at the same time, they dont have people who are hugely known. they have people with solid knowlegde and experience.
CosbehFox Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 I was lined up to go Uni and Sheff but I got a rejection letter and it killed my enthusiasm. As well, I knew I wasn't cut out for it. I am a working class lad who didn't really get along with a lot of people at college and I suspect Uni would have been the same. However, I didn't tell my family I had no real intention of going and despite getting decent results, I had a fall-out with them over it. I then spent 12 months do absolutely naff all until I got a job unpaid for two days. Then I applied for another job where I am now which involves going to Uni one day a week. Going to Uni for one day a week confirms to me that wouldn't like it and probably become depressed. I'd miss the ability to get in a car every Saturday and go somewhere or watching some footy. It's probably hard work doing my qualification (and eventually degree part-time) but my life's self-structure by work etc. My decision did give me a kick-up the arse, it took a major blow to my confidence as I did nothing but now I am firmly happy. However, when I qualify and when the opportunity arises to work elsewhere, live elsewhere I will not let it go. I have once and I want to become self-dependant. Only one person of my extended family lives outside of Leicester.
Unit Posted 13 March 2009 Author Posted 13 March 2009 Usually a 4 year course, where the 3rd year is spent in industry gaining valuable experience. I was hoping it'd literally be a degree in sandwiches, im so hungry! but can i say i am genuinely impressed with the replies in this thread, there was me thinking it'd last for about 2 minutes before somebody decided to post about breasts, it's been very helpful and i'm thinking i'll take a year out and get a job, if i'm not happy with it, off to uni i go, cheers!
Lillehamring Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 Yeah I am a dirty first yearer. (I hope you have Tor... he is what makes journalism so good! )I actually didnt enjoy that one as much as I have others. Maybe it was becuase I felt pressure, as someone who loves sport, and writes about sport (I do match reports for the American Football team in the Demon, and am doing the rugby varsity.) This year in journalism has been good. Media has been stale this year for me. As I get to choose my topics in media next year, I hope its better than this year, which has been a bit dry, especially as I havent found much of the media side interesting. DMU does seem to have excellent facilities, and they are always investing in new computing. Their teaching is good too. They havent got nobodies, but at the same time, they dont have people who are hugely known. they have people with solid knowlegde and experience. my english proffesor there was one of the best teachers i have ever had, sadly she passed away last summer, she'd written the introductions for some of the virginia woolf novels. in fact most of the teachers i had there (i transfered back for my final year) were really knowledgable and interested, apart from my diissertation guy, who couldn't give a fuck and caused me to miss out on a first
Zingari Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 I had it first! ok i believe you , i've tweaked mine (my avatar i mean)
TrickyTrev Posted 13 March 2009 Posted 13 March 2009 I made some friends at university that I'm still good friends with 16 years on, so I cannot say it was a COMPLETE waste of time, but it was a waste of time in that I hated nearly every minute of it and was depressed most of the time. I think I would have had a better time if I'd gone to a slightly shitter university, and met more of own kind (i.e. people not used to pushing themselves academically because most of their schoolmates were divs). It's weird because my boss at the Saturday job I had before I went was the only person that thought I wouldn't like it, and he got it spot on.If I hadn't gone I wouldn't be the man I am now, and frankly I'm a mess. Mind you, everyone else that was there thought the whole thing was jolly splendid so I think I'm very much in the minority and you should ignore me completely Where did you go?
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