Finnegan Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 Is thinking the same yesterday about Histon and how small that village is. Yet they are in the fifth tier of English football. Incredible that ain't it? Even closer to home - Wigan, Bolton? Don't fill their fairly average sized grounds and comfortably in the Premiership - Wigan may even still get into Europe. History is history, means diddily squat (and this from a Welsh rugby fan.)
TonyDorigo Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 We heard you the 1st time.Seriously though Just be a bit gracious in your superior support please, we were rarely quiet during the game and when both sets are at it, you really don't take note of the opposition example. you're "we all love Leeds" we (to your left) were singing "top of the league with it" not standing in silence as all you lot seem convinced happened. Despite this fook all matters less in my life, the goal music didn't even register. Seriously Howards goal, the 1-0 scoreline and the league table are all I care about, for once. Sorry pal, but I have to disagree. My friend sits in the Leicester seats just to the very left of the away support which was your most vocal section, simply). He text me during the game stating how amazed he was at the support, and that you couldnt get a word in edgeways. Ive known countless Leicester fans say you were quiet yesterday. You wont alter my opinion on the matter, and mine has only been confirmed by other of YOUR fans. Like you say though, it is irrelivant now, and will only be looked on by Leeds as a good memory, along with a battling performance. It was a good away day for us, that didnt have the end result that we'd hoped for. Big deal, had someone offered my 11 games unbeaten then a 1-0 defeat at the Walkers at the start of the season, i'd have ripped your arm off.
Daggers Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 FoxesTalk is full of away fans, and there is rarely any animosity even at game times, people visit FT for the footbal but stay for stuff like gen chat and the music threads... *Plymouth fans.
JakeShingler Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 Sorry pal, but I have to disagree. My friend sits in the Leicester seats just to the very left of the away support which was your most vocal section, simply). He text me during the game stating how amazed he was at the support, and that you couldnt get a word in edgeways. Ive known countless Leicester fans say you were quiet yesterday. You wont alter my opinion on the matter, and mine has only been confirmed by other of YOUR fans.Like you say though, it is irrelivant now, and will only be looked on by Leeds as a good memory, along with a battling performance. It was a good away day for us, that didnt have the end result that we'd hoped for. Big deal, had someone offered my 11 games unbeaten then a 1-0 defeat at the Walkers at the start of the season, i'd have ripped your arm off. fook off ya just being stupid now.
TonyDorigo Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 seriously?so it was opposing fans who caused that awful thread about famine in africa and children in need.... come of it.. i think the reason we are intrigued by waccoe is because our forum is (generally) very cosy and quite clued up culturally, whereas waccoe is frankly quite scary - to think that such aggressive knuckle-dragging still exists. FoxesTalk is full of away fans, and there is rarely any animosity even at game times, people visit FT for the footbal but stay for stuff like gen chat and the music threads... look around and you will see a forum full of lads and lasses talking about stuff and having a laugh, not just a bunch of saddoes dwelling on the past and complaining and swearing about everything and everyone. i'm sure waccoe has sensible considered posts, but trawlling thru the c*nting this and c*nting that and the shameless racism is just not worth my time, sorry. What I find dissapointing is that you're appearing as if I accept and agree with all the stuff that is on there. It saddens me, as I find it pathetic. Trust me though, the majority don't agree with any of those parts. Don't believe me? Look at Leeds United legends - Radebe, Johansson, Yeboah etc etc etc. How could we see these men in such light if we were a majority of racist morons? Your opinion dwells on extremist minorities who do everything they can to speak there mind and cause a bit of contreversy. It is just small-mindedness from fellows like yourselves that youll listen to such extremism and connect it to everyone else involved.
TonyDorigo Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 fook off ya just being stupid now. No, I actually would've. 27 points from 12 games? Id accept that no matter what my team looks like. Thats title winning form.
Finnegan Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 What I find dissapointing is that you're appearing as if I accept and agree with all the stuff that is on there. It saddens me, as I find it pathetic. Trust me though, the majority don't agree with any of those parts. Don't believe me? Look at Leeds United legends - Radebe, Johansson, Yeboah etc etc etc. How could we see these men in such light if we were a majority of racist morons? Your opinion dwells on extremist minorities who do everything they can to speak there mind and cause a bit of contreversy. It is just small-mindedness from fellows like yourselves that youll listen to such extremism and connect it to everyone else involved. "I'm not racist, I've got loads of black friends..."
Finchy Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 "I'm not racist, I've got loads of black friends..." haha.
Corky Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 Surely it is dependant on the people around your club at the time? For example, a lot of our defeats came under Macca. It would be unfair to hold that above the current side, which holds a different style of play, different concepts and even different players. Well done on your terrific season, although you seem to have forgot that class has to start somewhere. In my opinion, it got started at Elland Road again on the 26th December. No. You have to ask why the players are playing for one manager but not another? The manager might not be the best, but I'm sure Gary Mac is slightly pissed off.
Daggers Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 How could we see these men in such light if we were a majority of racist morons? Your opinion dwells on extremist minorities who do everything they can to speak there mind and cause a bit of contreversy. It is just small-mindedness from fellows like yourselves that youll listen to such extremism and connect it to everyone else involved. No it's not. Throughout the 70's and 80's the Kop at ER was awash with Nazi salutes and the cries of "Sieg Heil!" Songs praised Hitler and coloured players of other teams hated playing there for the abuse they suffered. The BNP and the NF recruited in the pubs and outside the ground while the NF's paper and memorabilia was openly sold at the gates of the ER. From being one of the three strongholds of racism and Fascism within the game do you seriously thing people are just going to accept that the club has changed? Coloured players were tolerated at Leeds - "they are n*******, but they are our n*******" was the quote from the organiser of the Wellingborough Whites when I took him to task on the matter. The Wellingborough Whites openly wore NF and BNP badges alongside LUFC memorabilia. The sick chanting your supporters used to throw on stadia across the country held testament that little had changed in their attitudes - and glances at Waccoe again confirms that a high level of racist language is commonplace among Leeds supporters. Yesterday was the first time in memory when scum didn't sing racist songs. Maybe this is the first step to convincing people like myself that you aren't all a collection of sub-human morons...but you'll forgive me for not wanting to hold my breath after such a long time where it has been the case. I accept that you are not a racist, you said so and that is fair enough - but your club has a long way to go to prove itself to the country.
Dr The Singh Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 "I'm not racist, I've got loads of black friends..." "I'm not racist, I've got loads of white friends..."
Lillehamring Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 *Plymouth fans. yes. that was pretty turgid wasn't it.
TonyDorigo Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 No. You have to ask why the players are playing for one manager but not another?The manager might not be the best, but I'm sure Gary Mac is slightly pissed off. Well...no, not really. Look at the defence being played yesterday: Ankergren Douglas Naylor Sodje Parker Now look at the defence played in Maccas last match: Lucas Assoumani Marques Michalik Sheehan Its different players. Macca didnt know his strongest side. Not only that, but he'd chop and change the teams about so much that nobody had a chance of surviving. He killed the confidence of the players. Snodgrass is expected to be voted player of the year at Leeds United, and Macca rarely started him. You cant really question the players under Macca either, because they've done everything he asked for. Macca said that himself. Delph credited the man for his promising start to a potential brilliant career. If Gary Mac is pissed off, it is for one reason - He didnt do the job properly. He's said that himself.
Edmund Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 I loved it when Howard went mental at the ref for awarding a freekick against him and he got a yellow card. Looked like he was going to nut him. The anger and passion was sensational.
Lillehamring Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 What I find dissapointing is that you're appearing as if I accept and agree with all the stuff that is on there. It saddens me, as I find it pathetic. Trust me though, the majority don't agree with any of those parts. Don't believe me? Look at Leeds United legends - Radebe, Johansson, Yeboah etc etc etc. How could we see these men in such light if we were a majority of racist morons? Your opinion dwells on extremist minorities who do everything they can to speak there mind and cause a bit of contreversy. It is just small-mindedness from fellows like yourselves that youll listen to such extremism and connect it to everyone else involved. oh, now your just being paranoid - where have i said you are a racist neanderthal, if i thought that i wouldn't have taken the time to write such a long reply to your post. i'm not, as you say 'small minded', i hoped my post was just pointing out how different FT and waccoe are - i have read stuff on there that has shocked me, just the general tone on there is atogonistic and intolerant, even towards other leeds posters. and quite frankly, of those leeds fans that have come on here, the majority have been awful, not all but compared to most teams, most of them have been a bit embarassing. the fact that i am no longer interested in trawlling through what the waccoe 'minority' feels, does not mean that i associate everyone with their attitude it just means that the 'minoroty' of arseholes on that forum is too high for my tastes and stands out amongst other away fans as being worryingly unpleasant
Edmund Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 oh, now your just being paranoid - where have i said you are a racist neanderthal, if i thought that i wouldn't have taken the time to write such a long reply to your post.i'm not, as you say 'small minded', i hoped my post was just pointing out how different FT and waccoe are - i have read stuff on there that has shocked me, just the general tone on there is atogonistic and intolerant, even towards other leeds posters. and quite frankly, of those leeds fans that have come on here, the majority have been awful, not all but compared to most teams, most of them have been a bit embarassing. the fact that i am no longer interested in trawlling through what the waccoe 'minority' feels, does not mean that i associate everyone with their attitude it just means that the 'minoroty' of arseholes on that forum is too high for my tastes and stands out amongst other away fans as being worryingly unpleasant This
TonyDorigo Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 No it's not.Throughout the 70's and 80's the Kop at ER was awash with Nazi salutes and the cries of "Sieg Heil!" Songs praised Hitler and coloured players of other teams hated playing there for the abuse they suffered. The BNP and the NF recruited in the pubs and outside the ground while the NF's paper and memorabilia was openly sold at the gates of the ER. From being one of the three strongholds of racism and Fascism within the game do you seriously thing people are just going to accept that the club has changed? Coloured players were tolerated at Leeds - "they are n*******, but they are our n*******" was the quote from the organiser of the Wellingborough Whites when I took him to task on the matter. The Wellingborough Whites openly wore NF and BNP badges alongside LUFC memorabilia. The sick chanting your supporters used to throw on stadia across the country held testament that little had changed in their attitudes - and glances at Waccoe again confirms that a high level of racist language is commonplace among Leeds supporters. Yesterday was the first time in memory when scum didn't sing racist songs. Maybe this is the first step to convincing people like myself that you aren't all a collection of sub-human morons...but you'll forgive me for not wanting to hold my breath after such a long time where it has been the case. I accept that you are not a racist, you said so and that is fair enough - but your club has a long way to go to prove itself to the country. Firstly, and totally off topic, but... IT'S NOT THE FRIGGING KOP!! I'm 17 years old and even I know it's the Gelderd. Lets keep it that way instead of all following suit and having a "Kop", yeah? Leave that nonsense to Liverpool. Right, thankyou for that moment. In answer to you, I cannot actually give you an answer. As just stated, i'm a 17 year old lad, who's first game was in 1995. I can only assure you that from my time supporting Leeds United, I have not witnessed racist songs myself. I have had to sit through countless songs about Matt Busby and his boys, who apparently made such a noise, and to be fair, I find that sickening. If i'd ever heard racist chanting at ER, i'd report it to the stewards immediatly, then request to be given a seat elsewhere in the ground. However, i've never had to do that, as i've never heard it. This is not to say its not been done, as with every club, there are racists, even Leicester. I can only try and assure you that it is now an extreme minority that are under this mentality, and I assure you that the majority see them as a disgrace to Leeds United FC. With regards to this being the first time you have not heard racist chants, well, this is apparently the first time since 2000 that Leeds have not had Turkish songs thrown at us from your end. Its all give and take really. And even on WACCOE, it is the minority that are racist. Again they are a disgrace to Leeds United, but they are there, and we have to be mature enough to look past it, because they simply wont. If you ever look on WACCOE, you will notice so clearly the same people who are posting this pathetic discrimination, and that just goes to show how it is the minority. The only reason it stands out is because it is so extreme in cases, and is so popular by the minority. If the majority stood up to it, then of course it would be no contest - What you have to udnerstand though, is what are we meant to do? Tell them they're naughty boys with misguided views? Whats that gonna do? Of course, its gonna make them speak their minds louder, and to more extreme lengths. I'm not making excuses for them, believe me, i'm just saying how it is from my viewpoint. If given the chance, you'd easily see that the majority of Leeds United is not racist (i'm talking VAST majority here). It is such a shame that those that are take it to such extreme lengths, but thats just how it is. They're a disgrace, but there's not a lot we can do.
TonyDorigo Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 Scared of Dyer, they're all scared of Dyer! I have that picture as my sig on another forum with "Neil Kilkenny - The Epitome of Masculinity" underneath. Gotta love Neil
Corky Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 Right, thankyou for that moment. In answer to you, I cannot actually give you an answer. As just stated, i'm a 17 year old lad, who's first game was in 1995. I can only assure you that from my time supporting Leeds United, I have not witnessed racist songs myself. You never went to Filbert St then? I remember on virtually every time you played there when I went (about 6/7 times) there was racist chants, and for three of those matches I was in the small North Stand and quite clearly heard it. Muzzy Izzet and Emile Heskey bore the main brunt of the venom you lot spouted, I seem to remember.
Simi Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 Just watched the match again. Just wondering whether that Hereford no-mark was watching the game yesterday? Thought we played some really good football along the floor yesterday, some the of the interplay between Gradel, Oakley, King, Dyer, Howard and Fryatt was really top class. The moves were fast paced and the passing was accurate and we were unlucky not to score from one of them. Gradel looked even better after seeing the game again. He is vital to the team during a match like that. I'm sure a lot of opposing team fans walk away thinking he's a right ****. Good, I hope they do. That's exactly what we should be wanting them to think. He was closing down everything and was snappy with his tackles. Dickov made a name of himself for being a ****, one that you didn't mind of your team though. Max is that and a whole lot more, he's got a great deal of talent and you can see he's starting to mature with the way he's using it now.
TonyDorigo Posted 14 April 2009 Posted 14 April 2009 You never went to Filbert St then? I remember on virtually every time you played there when I went (about 6/7 times) there was racist chants, and for three of those matches I was in the small North Stand and quite clearly heard it.Muzzy Izzet and Emile Heskey bore the main brunt of the venom you lot spouted, I seem to remember. I never did, and if i'm honest, it sounds as if I made the right choice. If that is true then I can only apoligise on behalf of Leeds United, and try to assure you that this isn't the case anymore - or from what I have witnessed, it is not. Like I say, i'm part of the new set of Leeds fans, who will no doubt be judged differently from those that went before us (or at least I hope so - we tend to focus on supporting our team and having friendly banter with opposing fans rather than being racists). I somehow question your memory though in regards to Heskey, as we were trying to sign him from you before Liverpool, with many Leeds fans being excited from the prospect - I just think that i'd have heard it being mentioned, thats all. It also seems odd that we'd be racist towards Heskey, when we'll have had players of similar backgrounds etc to him? If there was, it maybe could've been to just intimidate Leicester, with the mindless minority (sorry for constantly using that word, it just really is a minority of our fanbase) using anything they could. Regarding Izzet, well, its a disgrace, and in all honesty will have been created from misguided views yet again. As you may have gathered I do not share any of these views and am ashamed of those that do. A little of topic, but I met a friend who said he was going to try and get me to meet Izzet - I was rather looking forward to it. It never happened.
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