Kee rejects contract

[flanimal]

Think the article is exaggerating things. He'll probably stay and go on loan, when clubs hear 42 goals in 44, they'll loan him. If he's any good, NP will have noticed.

[Uncle Albert]

People need to realise he is 18 not 17.

[Koke]

People need to realise he is 18 not 17.

The points people are making still stands though.

Good luck to him anyway wherever he decides to go.

[breadandcheese]

Situations like this highlight our lack of reserve team football and the opportunity it gives young and injured players.

Whether Kee is good enough, who knows? I've always wondered, whether he, like Sappleton, looked a promising youngster not because they had the talent but because they were the most physically developed in their age group. That is where reserve team football would have shown. Either way, I'm sure the coaching staff know better than us so I'll trust their judgement.

[Uncle Albert]

Knowing him personally he seemed to me that he was never happy this season at Leicester and told me earlier in the year he was looking to go out on Loan but this never happened. I could always see this coming.

Fairplay to the lad if he wants to go and play first team football but I honestly think this is a big mistake, 44 goals in 42 games in phenomonal!

[Leicesterboi]

Knowing him personally he seemed to me that he was never happy this season at Leicester and told me earlier in the year he was looking to go out on Loan but this never happened. I could always see this coming.

Fairplay to the lad if he wants to go and play first team football but I honestly think this is a big mistake, 44 goals in 42 games in phenomonal!

I think him not being happy is more frustration that anything. I'm sure in terms of the club he could have no complaints with the facilities and being in a fantastic youth team but it must be frustrating scoring game after game and seemingly getting nowhere. Whilst this is about Billy Kee, there are other young lads who must be in the same boat, but Billy is the only one to have the balls to give Leicester the V's.

In terms of being loaned out, as I said previously, I know a League 2 club, where one Leicester player in particular enjoyed success, made a loan offer and Leicester were unwilling to let him go.

[Koke]

I think him not being happy is more frustration that anything. I'm sure in terms of the club he could have no complaints with the facilities and being in a fantastic youth team but it must be frustrating scoring game after game and seemingly getting nowhere. Whilst this is about Billy Kee, there are other young lads who must be in the same boat, but Billy is the only one to have the balls to give Leicester the V's.

In terms of being loaned out, as I said previously, I know a League 2 club, where one Leicester player in particular enjoyed success, made a loan offer and Leicester were unwilling to let him go.

I honestly still think he's making a big mistake. But if he truly believes it's in his best interest to leave Leicester, then I wish him the best of luck. Hayles & Dickov won't be here for much longer so I believe he could have fought himself into the squad of sixteen.

[MPH]

Well there is something going on there. If he wanted first team football he could have secured a season-long loan no problem. TBH I don't see why at 17 a youngster NEEDS first team football, the boys only just left school!

did i read that his agent was a Mr sheehan?

I hope Alan's brother isnt trying to sabotage us!!

[lou]

did i read that his agent was a Mr sheehan?

I hope Alan's brother isnt trying to sabotage us!!

Well it didnt do Alan Sheehans career much good did it!

[Munzie]

In terms of being loaned out, as I said previously, I know a League 2 club, where one Leicester player in particular enjoyed success, made a loan offer and Leicester were unwilling to let him go.

There was obviously a reason for the club not to let this happen.

Fustration or not, part of being an emerging footballing talent is trying to break into the first team. At the age of 18, if you start to throw your toys out of your pram, what does that say about your character or afinity to the club that gave you a start?

We're fast approaching the ineviatable Summer clear-out when the likes of Hayles, Campbell and Dickov's futures will be decided. How, at this stage, can Billy Kee know whether or not he fits into our plans?

I would have thought by now that Nigel Pearson has established himself as a gaffer that the team can trust. Other than thinking that there is a clash of personalities or he has been told to take it or leave it as far as the contract is concerned, I think he could be burning a potentially important bridge by upping sticks and turning his back on this club.

[Edmund]

According to Thracian, knowitall said he was heading off on loan this season.

http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=59783

There still is a stumbling block in this move and that is the compensation fee as he is under a certain age.

[flanimal]

I think Kee will stay, he's just putting the freak on Leicester, I think he wants to stay, and knows that in 1 or 2 years, he could get an opportunity. He'll be loaned out, and if he does well he'll get a shot.

[Leicesterboi]

There was obviously a reason for the club not to let this happen.

Fustration or not, part of being an emerging footballing talent is trying to break into the first team. At the age of 18, if you start to throw your toys out of your pram, what does that say about your character or afinity to the club that gave you a start?

We're fast approaching the ineviatable Summer clear-out when the likes of Hayles, Campbell and Dickov's futures will be decided. How, at this stage, can Billy Kee know whether or not he fits into our plans?

I would have thought by now that Nigel Pearson has established himself as a gaffer that the team can trust. Other than thinking that there is a clash of personalities or he has been told to take it or leave it as far as the contract is concerned, I think he could be burning a potentially important bridge by upping sticks and turning his back on this club.

I dont understand how this is Billy Kee throwing his toys out of the pram? He isn't the first and will certainly not be the last to decline a contract offer. I could understand people's frustrations if he was uppin and leaving for a Premiership Team for the fame and money i.e John Bostock but he isn't, he's making a sacrifice in many ways in order to going to gain more first team opportunities. If Leicester aren't willing to show faith in him and make him a reasonable offer to stay then why not go somewhere else to develop your career?

It happens everyday in the 'normal' working world, why is this such a crime because a young hopeful footballer is doing it??

[Babylon]

I dont understand how this is Billy Kee throwing his toys out of the pram? He isn't the first and will certainly not be the last to decline a contract offer. I could understand people's frustrations if he was uppin and leaving for a Premiership Team for the fame and money i.e John Bostock but he isn't, he's making a sacrifice in many ways in order to going to gain more first team opportunities. If Leicester aren't willing to show faith in him and make him a reasonable offer to stay then why not go somewhere else to develop your career?

It happens everyday in the 'normal' working world, why is this such a crime because a young hopeful footballer is doing it??

Because he is 17... if he was 19 people might feel a bit differently.

[Uncle Albert]

Because he is 17... if he was 19 people might feel a bit differently.

For the last time he is 18.

[Munzie]

I dont understand how this is Billy Kee throwing his toys out of the pram? He isn't the first and will certainly not be the last to decline a contract offer. I could understand people's frustrations if he was uppin and leaving for a Premiership Team for the fame and money i.e John Bostock but he isn't, he's making a sacrifice in many ways in order to going to gain more first team opportunities. If Leicester aren't willing to show faith in him and make him a reasonable offer to stay then why not go somewhere else to develop your career?

It happens everyday in the 'normal' working world, why is this such a crime because a young hopeful footballer is doing it??

Unless you have evidence to support this, I don't believe this is the case. If he is an emerging talent, one to watch, why would the club insult him with an unreasonable offer?

I would suggest that the offer is in keeping with his potential, as are most offers made by clubs these days. I'm all for him developing his career but why make a permanent move away from a club on the way up? A loan move would be a far more sensible option for club and player.

Also, if the deal was not acceptable, why not negotiate? Building in a loan or appearence clause can't be that hard.

If he wants to leave, that's fine. Given the story on Sky Sports News, I think there's more to this than we know.

[filbertway]

Surely staying on here and going on a season long loan next season would be more beneficial??

But if he's not enjoying being at the club then I guess there's no point staying.

[Samilktray]

That is fantastic.

[flanimal]

He looks older than 18, kind of scary, isn't he?

I think Leicester should keep him, he's a goalscorer, he could be our Wayne Rooney!

[smudger63]

It seems to me, he may be, being a bit hasty here.

I can see it must be frustrating for him, as of course, normally, the natural progression would be to move from the youth team, to playing at reserve level, then hopefully prove yourself worthy of the first team.

Sadly this route of progression is currently not an option, due to us having no proper reserve team. (Please get this sorted).

Of course, it would have been a risk, for pearson to have thrown him into the first team, in the middle of a promotion push, a risk we didnt take with ashley chambers and a risk we didnt need to take, so i dont think he could grumble to much about that.

As has been said, the likes of hales and dickov, also campbell are not going to be around for long now, and at 18, he might have been better to bide his time.

Again, like others have said, a loan to another club next season, would have benefitted him and of course us, and then he could have returned, with league experience, and if he had been a sucess, im sure would have made the first team squad, as gradel did.

At the end of the day, he`s only 18, hes hopefully got plenty of years in the game ahead of him, i think maybe, hes just being a tad impatient.

[Leicesterboi]

Unless you have evidence to support this, I don't believe this is the case. If he is an emerging talent, one to watch, why would the club insult him with an unreasonable offer?

I would suggest that the offer is in keeping with his potential, as are most offers made by clubs these days. I'm all for him developing his career but why make a permanent move away from a club on the way up? A loan move would be a far more sensible option for club and player.

Also, if the deal was not acceptable, why not negotiate? Building in a loan or appearence clause can't be that hard.

If he wants to leave, that's fine. Given the story on Sky Sports News, I think there's more to this than we know.

In terms of a reasonable offer, it doesn't relate purely to the money side of things, (which I dont beleive would have been all that great) but also in terms of development. The fact there is no reserves means he wont be playing regularly week in week out and as an 18 year old this is far from ideal. Also note players such as McKay and Chambers who were hot prospects and doing well in Reserve and Youth teams were given little opportunity in the first team and were pushed aside for players like Dickov and Hayles. I know Chambers was injured but even before that his chances were limited.

I just think that at a club like Leicester where we can afford to buy players instead of breeding them, Billy has made a choice which many others would have been better off doing so.

I appreciate Mattock and King have broke through but being a striker seems to be more difficult to establish yourself at Leicester. If Kee has got confidence in his own ability to go elsewhere and make a name for himself, why take the easy option of staying at Leicester? I personally see it as him showing ambition and belief.

Your note about negotiating, I dont agree with atall. From what I can gather, Billy has tried to negotiate and it seems that we have said no. Football Clubs are used to holding young players at Ransom. They think that young players will just accept anything to sign a pro contract and Billy Kee has got enough confindence in his ability that he can go and get a more suitable contract elsewhere.

What is wrong with that? If in your working world you could go and get a more important role and develop your career at another company would you turn it down because they gave you your first job? I doubt it

[flanimal]

Maybe Knowitall could tell us what's going on here. Think we should be trying to keep talented guys like Kee at City, he could become something good, and we'd be gutted if he becomes a proper goalscorer. Although, maybe he's not that good? Scoring goals at youth level isn't that hard. I mean, games are usually 5-4 or 6-3. Kee might not be all that.

I just assume all this is actually an attempt to stir up interest and force Leicester into giving him a better deal.

[samuel]

In terms of a reasonable offer, it doesn't relate purely to the money side of things, (which I dont beleive would have been all that great) but also in terms of development. The fact there is no reserves means he wont be playing regularly week in week out and as an 18 year old this is far from ideal. Also note players such as McKay and Chambers who were hot prospects and doing well in Reserve and Youth teams were given little opportunity in the first team and were pushed aside for players like Dickov and Hayles. I know Chambers was injured but even before that his chances were limited.

I just think that at a club like Leicester where we can afford to buy players instead of breeding them, Billy has made a choice which many others would have been better off doing so.

I appreciate Mattock and King have broke through but being a striker seems to be more difficult to establish yourself at Leicester. If Kee has got confidence in his own ability to go elsewhere and make a name for himself, why take the easy option of staying at Leicester? I personally see it as him showing ambition and belief.

Your note about negotiating, I dont agree with atall. From what I can gather, Billy has tried to negotiate and it seems that we have said no. Football Clubs are used to holding young players at Ransom. They think that young players will just accept anything to sign a pro contract and Billy Kee has got enough confindence in his ability that he can go and get a more suitable contract elsewhere.

What is wrong with that? If in your working world you could go and get a more important role and develop your career at another company would you turn it down because they gave you your first job? I doubt it

Okay Master William Kee, shouldn't you be out looking for another club?

[Babylon]

For the last time he is 18.

17... I have proof he forged his birth certificate.

[Uncle Albert]

17... I have proof he forged his birth certificate.

Ah any chance you can do the same for me? Fancy dropping a few years.