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Posted
I bet you'd love a good sausage roasting.

I would, bit of brown sauce, mustard, oh my mouths watering, don't forget the oinions, 2 slices of bread n butter, mamamia.

Posted
In my position, beggars can't be choosers. :(

Joking aside though, your comparison is valid. I wouldn't see it as a big deal if a gay bloke tried to chat me up because I'm comfortable enough in my own sexuality to pass it off as something that it isn't going to lead to anything, just as if a munter came on to me.

I really wish i would be ok with it, but its just not cricket. I was "chatted up" once, got to the stage where he wouldn't let me get my coat hehe, fortunately i was with a beefy qweer (he wouldn't mind me calling him that) and the filthy idiot with his mates stopped, but it didn't stop this filthy qweer spitting at me as i left this gay pub at a Birmingham gay pride. Incidently, the FOX pub there is wall to wall Lesbian, unbelievable, i didn't wana leave, it was heaven. Most gay men give me the creeps, just the way they behave. Some gay men behave like men, rather than women.

Posted

Ah, full circle - hate peddling.

Time for another ban maybe?

"It's ok to hate" brigade strikes again.

I wonder if the above is even true or just a great opportunity to write "filthy queer" a lot.

The truth is that I hate you and everything you stand for.

The only minority group I would like to see exiled is yourself.

Why don't you fook-off from this forum and peddle your hate somewhere else.

There is no equality for gay people in football full stop.

The bottom line is that they are not able to behave in the same 'equal' way as heterosexual players due to it damaging their relationship with the players the club and the fans.

Why should people have to hide who they are.

If I went shopping with my gay lover and he kissed me in the supermarket that should be fine - You wouldn't blink an eyelid if it was a guy and a girl. Why expect the homosexual to behave differently - because you find it difficult? lol

The problem here is 'just not cricket' I find myself deeply attracted to you Obwank1overmee, your are obviously an intelligent man with a grasp of language, polarised and failed by society, so picked up the mantle of hate in order to express yourself in an individual manner.

I bet you would be a great lover of men, all that rage and anger built in sexual tension, kiss me you big stud.

Posted
I really wish i would be ok with it, but its just not cricket. I was "chatted up" once, got to the stage where he wouldn't let me get my coat hehe, fortunately i was with a beefy qweer (he wouldn't mind me calling him that) and the filthy idiot with his mates stopped, but it didn't stop this filthy qweer spitting at me as i left this gay pub at a Birmingham gay pride. Incidently, the FOX pub there is wall to wall Lesbian, unbelievable, i didn't wana leave, it was heaven. Most gay men give me the creeps, just the way they behave. Some gay men behave like men, rather than women.

If you're not ok with it, what are you doing in a gay pub? :huh:

Posted
If you're not ok with it, what are you doing in a gay pub? :huh:

:crylaugh:

It probably looked like a closet door from the outside...........

Posted
Ah, full circle - hate peddling.

Time for another ban maybe?

"It's ok to hate" brigade strikes again.

I wonder if the above is even true or just a great opportunity to write "filthy queer" a lot.

The truth is that I hate you and everything you stand for.

The only minority group I would like to see exiled is yourself.

Why don't you fook-off from this forum and peddle your hate somewhere else.

There is no equality for gay people in football full stop.

The bottom line is that they are not able to behave in the same 'equal' way as heterosexual players due to it damaging their relationship with the players the club and the fans.

Why should people have to hide who they are.

If I went shopping with my gay lover and he kissed me in the supermarket that should be fine - You wouldn't blink an eyelid if it was a guy and a girl. Why expect the homosexual to behave differently - because you find it difficult? lol

The problem here is 'just not cricket' I find myself deeply attracted to you Obwank1overmee, your are obviously an intelligent man with a grasp of language, polarised and failed by society, so picked up the mantle of hate in order to express yourself in an individual manner.

I bet you would be a great lover of men, all that rage and anger built in sexual tension, kiss me you big stud.

Good post

Posted
WTF? That's just typical male attitude, isn't it? I fancy myself, so everyone else must fancy me too! lol

You know me too well, and I know both you and SF fancy a piece of the Singh, who could blame you...... :P

Posted
But that's the thing, what is there to be afraid of if you're an average bloke?

It really does make me laugh, what would these 'scared' blokes do if they were propositioned by a woman they found totally unattractive? Do they get scared then?

Your mates have the right idea; if someone fancies you, it's a compliment at the end of the day.

That's not me!! :P

Seriously though, it spanks imaturity and ignorance, if you know ur heterosexual or gay, why would you be afriad of the opposite, if your not comfortable with your sexuality then you have issues not society.

Posted
At Macclesfield one bloke on the terrace, clearly off his head, tried to start off a VERY homophobic song about Derby fans.

Well, as it is Derby...

Posted
I'm equally sure two gay footballers could shop together with no problems and that they'd only provoke comment if they made a spectacle of themselves in public as would anyone - be it a heterosexual couple, a bloke dressed as a clown or a woman in a topless dress.

Chances are a good part of the problem is imagined. Yes, some players would feel uncomfortable being in the same team as a known homosexual just as some fans would be uncomfortable sitting next to a homosexual or many other kinds of people - if they knew.

But most would either accept it with good grace or not give a toss anyway. I'm not even sure that the boundaries of homosexuality and heterosexuality are as rigidly defined as some would like to argue in any case but, bottom line is that, if you want to express your personality in any way then you'll provoke differing reactions and have to cope with them

....

I go to football matches to support my home town, to watch a contest and to enjoy the banter with friends and acquaintances. I don't go to be indoctrinated.

And from what I can gather, one of the activists involved seems to only attend games with fellow homosexuals, 18 of them I think he mentioned. Presumably he doesn't feel comfortable next to the straights. Bit ironic that.

But this is the point, Thrace, a gay footballer can't go out with his partner, who doesn't have to be another footballer btw, full stop. Whether they make an exhibition of themselves or not. Why? Because if he did, he would be subjected to a torrent of unnecessary abuse from a bunch of immature morons, who are obviously not secure with their own sexuality.

As for indoctrination, nobody is suggesting that you start becoming experimental in your old age. As far as I can see it is a campaign promoting tolerance, not a recruitment drive.

Your last comment could also apply to any other minority group that goes to the football, from women through to ethnic groups.

Where do you draw the line Lisa, you, or atleast hundreds of thousands of football fans will hurl abuse at a footballer because they play for a rival/opposition team, does it matter whether they're gay, straight, black, white, thin or Akinbadbuy?

Perhaps you should tell us where you would draw the line of what is and what is not acceptable rather than asking everyone else, for a change.

You know me too well, and I know both you and SF fancy a piece of the Singh, who could blame you...... :P

:blush:

Posted

I don't think football fans are homophobic on the whole.

That said, it's typical faggots, spoiling our manly game, bloody pansies should go back to taking it up the chuff, that's just unnatural. Shirtlifters trying to get involved again. Twats the lot of them.

*Yes I am aware that this could backfire.

Posted
I don't think football fans are homophobic on the whole.

That said, it's typical faggots, spoiling our manly game, bloody pansies should go back to taking it up the chuff, that's just unnatural. Shirtlifters trying to get involved again. Twats the lot of them.

*Yes I am aware that this could backfire.

Only when some idiot uses the quote in a sig :P

Posted
But this is the point, Thrace, a gay footballer can't go out with his partner, who doesn't have to be another footballer btw, full stop. Whether they make an exhibition of themselves or not. Why? Because if he did, he would be subjected to a torrent of unnecessary abuse from a bunch of immature morons, who are obviously not secure with their own sexuality.

As for indoctrination, nobody is suggesting that you start becoming experimental in your old age. As far as I can see it is a campaign promoting tolerance, not a recruitment drive.

Your last comment could also apply to any other minority group that goes to the football, from women through to ethnic groups.

Perhaps you should tell us where you would draw the line of what is and what is not acceptable rather than asking everyone else, for a change.

:blush:

I read a gay bloke's response to this and he, apart from confirming my view that football is simply being used for socio-political purposes, said he had never been verbally abused for his sexuality in all his time watching football.

I've watched City over 50 years and have never heard anyone being personally abused either - just the odd generic ditty which would only offend the habitually offended.

As for homosexual footballers not being able to "go out" with their partners, do you know this? I cannot imagine it would bother you nor any of the friends I see you with at the football and it certainly wouldn't bother even an old-timer like me.

So who would these mystery abusers" be? Perhaps my relative naivity on the subject is showing through.

Posted
I read a gay bloke's response to this and he, apart from confirming my view that football is simply being used for socio-political purposes, said he had never been verbally abused for his sexuality in all his time watching football.

I've watched City over 50 years and have never heard anyone being personally abused either - just the odd generic ditty which would only offend the habitually offended.

As for homosexual footballers not being able to "go out" with their partners, do you know this? I cannot imagine it would bother you nor any of the friends I see you with at the football and it certainly wouldn't bother even an old-timer like me.

So who would these mystery abusers" be? Perhaps my relative naivity on the subject is showing through.

Have you read nothing on this thread apart from my posts, and then chosen to have a go at them, as per?

Posted
At Macclesfield one bloke on the terrace, clearly off his head, tried to start off a VERY homophobic song about Derby fans.

As it was pointless trying to reason with him, and neither plod nor the stewards were anywhere in sight, we treated him with the contempt he deserved, and ignored him. He soon shut up.

While there are a lot of gay men interested in football, as anyone who has been to Pride festivals will confirm, they're not likely to be seen in great numbers at the Way or any other large stadium any time soon. There are still far too many insecure men and youths around who would see them as a threat.

But homophobia is an issue which affects the whole of British sport, not just football. I can't recall too many athletes, other than John Amaechi, admitting to being gay in recent times.

Anyone, homosexual or otherwise, being the least bit concerned about the Derby ditty would perhaps be best seeing a psychiatrist because it was just a laugh aimed at livening up a quiet evening.

I was 5 yards from the guy and he certainly wasn't "off his head". He was just injecting some wit and banter into proceedings.

There was nothing personal in anything he said or did and bringing in stewards or policemen would be as OTT as the partner of the girl next to me reacting cos his lady joined in with singing the Gradel "Love-of-my-live" song.

How does homophobia affect sport when it has sod all to do with sport? When you've finished interfering with one aspect of life you lefties always want to turn to some other aspect. It gives you something to do when, in the real world, you'll always be put in the position of needing to cope with mickey-taking on occasions so why not at a football matches?

Footballers have to put up with criticism and catcalls from the crowd, managers with disatisfied fans, supporters with shit half-time entertainment so why the hell should gays be molly-coddled? Why anyone would want football sullied by debates about sexuality I've no idea.

Why any gay would give a toss about hearing the Derby song I've no idea. I get more hammer on here than any gay would have imagined from that song. The whole issue is simply about using football as a political conveniece.

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