Fez of Mahrez Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Agree with you Legend In Blue.Robbie Nielson has given one bad performance from what I have seen of him. He constantly gets stuck in, I mean against Barnsley, Hume didn't know what hit him (and I was glad), he's good in the air, ok his crossing may not be good but at least he attacks down that right, and sometimes gets caught out of position because of stupid N'Guessan. Nielson's throws are good and his first touch and passing is fine. Like Legend In Blue says, before we single out Nielson, lets start a thread about N'Guessan who must be the worst signing under Nigel Pearson in the two season's he's been here. Stop picking on Nielson, give him a break. I'm fed up with people moaning about Nielson. N'Guessan who we picked up for peanuts from League Two and who has scored three goals this season, including two goals which have won us three points in total, our second top scorer having played on the wing pretty much all season so far? I'm not saying he's a world-beater but he's hardly the worst signing Pearson has made.
Budweiser Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Neilson looks like the sort of player who has more limitations than potential. He's never going to improve any more than the player he is now - a one-paced defender of limited technical ability who will try his heart out and will fight for the cause. Although he looked to me at fault for a couple of the goals last weekend, he generally seems to make up for his lack of pace and first touch with some good positioning and huge effort. He's an average passer of the ball though and Pearson would do well to instruct him not to try to be something he's not. Gilbert could bomb upfield and still get back, but Preston's second goal yesterday (while perhaps not being Neilson's fault) is the sort of goal we can expect to concede on several occasions in the future if Neilson keeps trying to be Dani Alves. Overlapping and supporting the attack is all well and good, but Championship football is, boringly, all about percentages - especially when dealing with limited players. We aren't going to get done every week by quick wingers though and he dealt fairly well with Ross Wallace yesterday, primarily through intimidation and some tactical fouling.I think that sort of solid, unspectacular full-back is probably under-appreciated by most and we'd equally be in danger of conceding goals through bad positioning or aerial weakness if we fielded a different type of player at right-back, but Neilson's not the type of player I enjoy watching and I can see already he's going to frustrate me all season. It's a shame because I could see it straight away at Tamworth on his first appearance and, as mentioned, his pace and first touch are not going to improve noticeably over the season. It would have been his fault, but if Gallagher put his fooking body infront of the ball to stop the crosses then we would have been okay. I was all for giving Neilson time to settle but his performances are fustrating me. Anyway, I thought Maybury was good in his ACTUAL position but he hardly ever got played there.
Salieri Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Has anyone seen a pattern that most of the time when you bring Scottish players to play in the English leagues they just don't seem to cut it? Charlie Adam has been outstandig for Blackpool this season, wish we would have snapped him up. You're probably right though in that the majority who make the transition don't exactly set the world alight.
Budweiser Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Charlie Adam has been outstandig for Blackpool this season, wish we would have snapped him up. You're probably right though in that the majority who make the transition don't exactly set the world alight. Same, fantastic signing for them. Ross Wallace isn't too bad
TrickyTrev Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Alan Maybury was a talented footballer, John Curtis is a better analogy.
DarkTranquillity Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Neilson just doesn't have a footballing brain. It was summed up yesterday in injury time when he 'shot' from just outside the box. We had a penalty area full of blue shirts and he decides in all his wisdom to have a go. He can't pass straight, let alone have a go from 20 yards!! As for that throw, Berner and Oakley have much better ones. Drop him, not good enough.
Guest Bilo Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Is Kerrea Gilbert still available for loan?
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 I actually think Maybury was better than Neilson. Morrison played well against Swansea without having any problems and has since seemed to disappear along with Gradel. The performance from Neilson yesterday was the worst individual one I have seen since NP came to the club. I will become increasingly annoyed if he continues to pick this liability ahead of Morrison.
Karljohn Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 I want him to do well...but cant help thinking Nicky Platnaeur, Tony Spearing etc....he's one of those Brian Little defenders who could get away with it 20 years ago. Just out of interest does anyone know if Mcgivern can play at right back?
ian_marshall Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Appreciated N'Guessan doesn't track back and help out much defensively but surely a player who has been the captain of a respectable Scottish side for 10 years has enough about him to realise that if the winger in front of him doesn't track back then it's imperative that he sits deep and that opportunities to overlap need to take second place over defensive duties. Has anyone else noticed that the guys running gait appears to be severely impaired? He seems to move like a Crab! I think that he may be okay as a squad player, but as soon as NP replaces him in the first team the better in my opinion.
davieG Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Appreciated N'Guessan doesn't track back and help out much defensively but surely a player who has been the captain of a respectable Scottish side for 10 years has enough about him to realise that if the winger in front of him doesn't track back then it's imperative that he sits deep and that opportunities to overlap need to take second place over defensive duties.Has anyone else noticed that the guys running gait appears to be severely impaired? He seems to move like a Crab! I think that he may be okay as a squad player, but as soon as NP replaces him in the first team the better in my opinion. As his runs forward seemed such an integral part of our tactics then maybe that question should be addressed to NP after all it was happening right in front of him for most of the 2nd half and I didn't seem him instruct Neilson to hold back. Neilson has some basic football skills and a wealth of experience playing in the Scottish Leagues, you can justifiable criticise his ability to use those basic skills adequately but to criticise his tactically approach, style of game he plays and his ability to cope in the Championship seems off the mark - surely that's down to LCFC Management team
scinnell Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Following another shocking performance from Neilson the Clown, who in recent years deserves the accolade of Leicester's worst signing? LAY OFF HIM PLEASE Not having a go at you But at the end of the day He does where the Leicester shirt every saturday What good is it Taking the piss out of him
scinnell Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 If you're going to start a thread criticising Robbie Neilson may I suggest this as another:Danny N'Guessan - The New Momo Sylla. Neilson may not be Cafu but at least he gives it 100%. You can't fault his workrate. Yes, he may have limitations but he is clearly trying to play a role forced on him by NP that he is unaccustomed to and without proper backup down the right from his 'I'll wonder over here for 10 minutes and run and produce nothing' RM what do you expect? Give the guy a break. Give Dany N'Guesson A chance to settle in, Hes scored three goals which is a good record for a winger, I aggree he does have his off days, But it must be hard rising up two leagues.
ian_marshall Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Davie G - I appreciate what you are saying and agree with you that NP didn't at any point instruct Neilson to play in a different way. However, as a player who was brought to the club for his experience I would expect him to use his own initiative and realise when and where it is appropriate to go forward without leaving himself exposed.
ian_marshall Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Scinell - I'm not taking the p**s out of Neilson, i'm just stating a fact that the guy isn't worthy of his blue shirt from what I have seen of him so far. If he isn't good enough then he shouldn't be playing, and from the reaction of the other posts on this topic many others seem to feel the same way.
davieG Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Davie G - I appreciate what you are saying and agree with you that NP didn't at any point instruct Neilson to play in a different way. However, as a player who was brought to the club for his experience I would expect him to use his own initiative and realise when and where it is appropriate to go forward without leaving himself exposed. The reason NP didn't tell him to hold back was presumable because he didn't want him to, it's not about using your initiative if the manager has told you to play in a certain way and that was primarily without any midfield width and for the two fullbacks to get forward, likewise for Gallagher to come inside, for Howard to fall back into midfield. When Neilson ventures forward with the ball it's not his responsibility to ensure there is adequate cover that job should have been allocated to someone prior to the match commencing - it's all about organisation. Modern football, at least at this level appears to have littel if anything in common with players using their initiative if it did there'd be more intelligent players in the team not the likes of Brown and Nielson.
davieG Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Scinell - I'm not taking the p**s out of Neilson, i'm just stating a fact that the guy isn't worthy of his blue shirt from what I have seen of him so far. If he isn't good enough then he shouldn't be playing, and from the reaction of the other posts on this topic many others seem to feel the same way. If he's simple not good enough and is picked to play that's not his fault that's the managers. So your question is not all that relevant, a more pertinent one might be why did NP sign him and why does he keep picking Neilson when he's not good enough? And if you think Maybury is the worse fullback we've had you not seen that many games
FoxesFan123 Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Reading a few of the Hearts FC forum's when we signed him, I had my doubts that he would not be good enough, but thought (and still think) NP knows more than I do and to put my trust in his judgement. Up to now, he hasn't shown much to suggest he should be our first choice right-back. Alot of this is also down to the form of the player ahead of him, Dany N'Guesan. Him, along with Lloyd Dyer, have been hot and cold, great one week, pathetic the next. What I don't understand is why Dany, Lloyd, and even Gallagher are played on the wing ahead of Nicky Adams, who has looked great everytime he has played, and even Max Gradel, who looked good at the end of last season, and would probably do a better tracking back job that Dany. Does NP have his "favourites" which have to play...?
davieG Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Reading a few of the Hearts FC forum's when we signed him, I had my doubts that he would not be good enough, but thought (and still think) NP knows more than I do and to put my trust in his judgement. Up to now, he hasn't shown much to suggest he should be our first choice right-back. Alot of this is also down to the form of the player ahead of him, Dany N'Guesan. Him, along with Lloyd Dyer, have been hot and cold, great one week, pathetic the next. What I don't understand is why Dany, Lloyd, and even Gallagher are played on the wing ahead of Nicky Adams, who has looked great everytime he has played, and even Max Gradel, who looked good at the end of last season, and would probably do a better tracking back job that Dany. Does NP have his "favourites" which have to play...? I think he has a preference for taller players. Levi, Adams, Max = out
scinnell Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Scinell - I'm not taking the p**s out of Neilson, i'm just stating a fact that the guy isn't worthy of his blue shirt from what I have seen of him so far. If he isn't good enough then he shouldn't be playing, and from the reaction of the other posts on this topic many others seem to feel the same way. yeah i respect your opinion im just saying at the end of the day he is a leicester player and we need to get behind him
scinnell Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 If he's simple not good enough and is picked to play that's not his fault that's the managers. So your question is not all that relevant, a more pertinent one might be why did NP sign him and why does he keep picking Neilson when he's not good enough? And if you think Maybury is the worse fullback we've had you not seen that many games this is my opinion, from what i have seen of him, i think he looks ok
acooling08 Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 Seen him 3 times. Once he was my MOTM, once he was OK, yesterday he fooking sucked.
Super Arj Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 surely loaning / paying for Gilbert is worth it. Besides the couple of wonder goals scored against us, Neilson seems to have been at fault for every goal we have conceded.
acooling08 Posted 27 September 2009 Posted 27 September 2009 surely loaning / paying for Gilbert is worth it.Besides the couple of wonder goals scored against us, Neilson seems to have been at fault for every goal we have conceded. Sorry, that's pure wrong.
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