Robbie Neilson

[MPH]

Neilson is a decent player, limited but decent.

It is the modern way. Someone has to take the blame when things go wrong and right now it is Neilson, doesn't get forward enough, gets forward too much, can't play the final ball (penalty at Watford?) etc etc.

Bollox.

It could not possibly be poor tactics, lousy team shape of lack of organisation, could it? No that's far too difficult to deal with, lets just blame someone, its easy, no brains required!

its not far too difficult to deal with, you are just wrong, thats all.

[Fox You Forest]

you are just wrong, thats all.

Good luck with that.

[carterfox90]

cant mark cant run & defo cant shoot very poor imo

[Fox92]

Completely agree. I think Nielson has done as well as you would expect considering he has had no support at all from the winger, in this case N'Guessan. I feel so much more secure having Nielson in the team than I ever did when Gilbert was here.

Agreed.

I feel more secure as well. I always thought that Gilbert used to go and wonder. Sometimes, Gilbert got caught out of position but his pace made up for it. Robbie Nielson hasn't got that pace so it shows more than Gilbert.

At least Nielson is commited and gets stuck in, which can't be said about all of the players within the side.

I am fed up with everyone getting on about Nielson though. N'Guessan doesn't help him on the right side of midfield either and sometimes Nielson has to put up with that which makes him look a poor player. And sometimes, Nielson's balls down the right are a clever idea but N'Guessan is never there.

[Fox92]

I like Robbie Nielson, and it isn't fair that the abuse he does get.

He sits a right back nicely. He gets stuck in. He's great in the air. He can pass a ball. He can control a ball. He takes good throw ins and he attacks down the right.

What more do you want?

Remember, that Nielson is playing with a poor right midfielder at the minute in N'Guessan and has to make up for that.

Everyone saying that he isn't good enough, yet they want Nicky Adams and Max Gradel in the starting line up, when Adams is currently a squad player at best and Gradel just isn't good enough.

Get off of Nielsons back, it was most probably his fault for two of the goals at Watford but no way should a left back or centre back play right back ahead of Robbie Nielson.

[marbelladave]

Good luck with that.

He'll need it!...

But sadly I have too much on for the next day or two to be able to explain the basic wrongness of picking players out of position and asking them to do jobs they are not used to/capable of.

Later!

[MC Prussian]

Neilson is a decent signing. Mind you, he's 28 and probably not getting any better. From what I've seen, he does a solid job and oftentimes has to make up for N'Guessan's mistakes in the middle of the park by playing like a right winger, which he is not and THAT'S when he usually is found out and his lack of pace shows. For a left-back, Neilson does what he's asked for. And he can put in some nice crosses into the box, as well.

Howard's lack of impact on the game is a much more worrying thing.

[Munzie]

Nielson is limited. He puts the effort in, no question.

He tries his hardest but is hindered by his technical ability. How many times have we said that about City players that have never made the grade in the past?

His plight has been highlighted over the recent games when we've played players out of position and changed the formation. With no additional support, his weaknesses have been there for all to see.

If we are to persist with tinkering from 4-4-2, a solid, dependable, full back is required. Nielson isn't up to the job.

[Monk]

It would have helped if our right winger actually played on the wing. Much of the problem with his attacking play was the fact that he had no support.

If he had a sense of urgency about him I wouldnt mind so much, but when Howard threw the ball to the ground in the first half just goes to show how slow he was being.

If he can throw at 45 drgrees instead of 70 we might get a bit more from them also.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Neilson is a shocking excuse for a championship footballer. Can not pass or run and has the touch of a rapist.

edit* Sorry wrong thread. Neilson is quite clearly the best right back in the division and is misunderstood. Th reason why his passes go astray is because his cultured footballing brain is so far ahead of the rest of the team!

[Fox92]

It would have helped if our right winger actually played on the wing. Much of the problem with his attacking play was the fact that he had no support.

Thats what I have been trying to say.

edit* Sorry wrong thread. Neilson is quite clearly the best right back in the division and is misunderstood. Th reason why his passes go astray is because his cultured footballing brain is so far ahead of the rest of the team!

Whats the point in that?

We arn't saying that he is the best right back in the division, it's just that people get on his back when I have only seen one poor performance from him, where, from what I recall, all the team were pretty poor as well.

His passes only go astray because there is no right winger!

And, theres only one brain that is so far ahead of the team and that is Richie Wellens.

[Bert]

I'll start to appreciate him when he can do a proper job. It certainly doesn't look like he's going to do this soon.

Have you not seen his last few games? He's been awful. To be fair to him, he never stops trying and he does try and support the attack well. Also, I thought he started off the season quite well, but like Brown, he's slowly deteriorating. We can't afford to have our defence make the same mistakes every single game.

BUT, his final ball is awful, he constantly gives the ball away and he doesn't have the pace to get back which leaves our back line, (which isn't the quickest anyway dreadfully exposed.) he's made some very dangerous tackles this season and could've easily been sent off on Saturday.

I want to see everyone who plays for us do well, and I hope I can eat my words and begin to say that he's had a good game.

[Bert]

Thats what I have been trying to say.

Whats the point in that?

We arn't saying that he is the best right back in the division, it's just that people get on his back when I have only seen one poor performance from him, where, from what I recall, all the team were pretty poor as well.

His passes only go astray because there is no right winger!

And, theres only one brain that is so far ahead of the team and that is Richie Wellens.

What about Watford? How's the right winger supposed to get the ball when it's gone out for a throw in? He did that so many times.

[Fox92]

I'll start to appreciate him when he can do a proper job. It certainly doesn't look like he's going to do this soon.

Have you not seen his last few games? He's been awful. To be fair to him, he never stops trying and he does try and support the attack well. Also, I thought he started off the season quite well, but like Brown, he's slowly deteriorating. We can't afford to have our defence make the same mistakes every single game.

BUT, his final ball is awful, he constantly gives the ball away and he doesn't have the pace to get back which leaves our back line, (which isn't the quickest anyway dreadfully exposed.) he's made some very dangerous tackles this season and could've easily been sent off on Saturday.

I want to see everyone who plays for us do well, and I hope I can eat my words and begin to say that he's had a good game.

I think that Gilbert's pace used to get him out of trouble a lot though.

I'm not saying that Gilbert is better than Nielson, or Nielson is better than Gilbert, but Gilbert's pace got him out of trouble where Nielson doesn't have this.

I know what your saying about the final ball being awful but I think most of the side's final ball's are awful - And, I like Gallagher's corner's better than Oakley's corner's

[Fox92]

Well that is already better than Neilson who is never actually in position, and I don't see how you can make that conclusion about Gilbert.

Nielson is only never in position, because of N'Guessan, what part of that can't you see?

Gilbert was often out of position but his pace made up for this - Nielson hasn't got it.

Besides, Gilbert used to back out of tackles and was to weak (used to get knocked off of the ball quite easy).

[Jimmy]

Stearman?

was slated by loads, people were practically celebrating when he was sold

[Bert]

was slated by loads, people were practically celebrating when he was sold

No they weren't.

[Webbo]

Can anybody tell me why RN was responsible for our loss against PNE?

Btw I wasn't one of them but Gilbert had plenty of critics last season too.

[The Blur]

I'd still like to see The Hoof have a chance. I like him, and he was decent against Swansea.

He didn't play against Swansea, he was suspended?

[Scow]

I've defended the guy before, but the last couple of games have really exposed his limitations.

It's been noted by others that if keeps things simple, then he's fine for the large part. However, he's being asked to raid forward and his passing/crossing in the final third is simply not good enough. His crossing in particular lacks any sort of potency: it's too slow and easily defendable. I have no idea why a Watford player felt compelled to handle Neilson's cross the previous week (which was nowhere near one of our players).

He's a willing trier, and apart from the Watford game, he's been solid defensively. Despite his lack of pace, I've not seen too many players go past him. I don't think Neilson is as bad as some make out and some of the reactions have been a bit OTT.

I agree that he needs a consistent right sided player in front of him. N'Guessan simply lost the ball on too many occasions and that was part of the problem against Preston.

Tomorrow could see him really struggle against Johnson though - but then most full backs will struggle against him.

[Ozwin]

I remember hen N'guessen actually helped get back defensively. It's like he's lost all confidence and thus lost all footballing ability. Max Gradel always gets back, we should give him a go.

[lou]

I think that Gilbert's pace used to get him out of trouble a lot though.

I'm not saying that Gilbert is better than Nielson, or Nielson is better than Gilbert, but Gilbert's pace got him out of trouble where Nielson doesn't have this.

I know what your saying about the final ball being awful but I think most of the side's final ball's are awful - And, I like Gallagher's corner's better than Oakley's corner's

I am.

Neilson tries hard but isnt good enough

[Mikey]

He didn't play against Swansea, he was suspended?

I was on about Mike 'The Hoof' Morrison.

[Simo86]

Tomorrow could see him really struggle against Johnson though - but then most full backs will struggle against him.

Not if he clatters him in the 1st half like he did to Ross Wallace

Seriously though, I think Johnson will give us the run around tomorrow. He will be their main threat and we need to double up on him when we can.

[The Blur]

I was on about Mike 'The Hoof' Morrison.

Ah right, sorry mate