Robbie Neilson

[marbelladave]

I can't understand the logic behind slating Nielson's performances this season. He's pretty solid at defending after all - that's what a right back does.

As for N'Guessan, Nielson is trying to do his own job and half of N'Guessan's from what I've seen. N'Guessan has been worse than Neilson this season. But there appear to be two reasons which make this irrelevant.

1 N'Guessan has scored goals.

2 N'Guessan has made a jump up two divisions.

I don't care if he's scored two goals or jumped up two divisions, in terms of doing his job for the team so far, he has been totally ineffective. He's made an impact as sub, granted, but his allround play has been ineffective from the start of games.

Yet it doesn't matter, he's scored two goals and jumped up two divisions. This is excusable. This is acceptable. This is better than Nielson.

As I said at the top, the logic behind it all is bizarre to say the least.

N'Guessan started the season in quite a lively manner, playing well forward and getting into the box and posing a goal threat. He is a striker who starts wide but but likes to get inside and attack the box and not really a winger in the usual sense. What he most definitely is not is a right midfield player, he tries hard to get up and down and cover his full back but that is not really his game and he is not very good at it.

Playing him right midfield is just as wrong as playing Gallagher left midfield. These players are attackers not defenders and playing them in positions that require defensive capabilities is a mistake. Picking attacking players for roles that are primarily defensive is not the answer and even though our midfield has been lightweight, getting attacking players, who are largely inept defensively, to help out is not working.

If the midfield is weak defensively, pick a player who can defend!

[Fox92]

The fact is that on Saturday it was bad management, where Berner and Nielson (but everyone seems to pick Nielson out more) were getting caught out - also the fact that he was up against Ross Wallace.

Right, Pearson's tactics were to attack - so, N'Guessan and Gallagher went forward (x, x, x, x) which meant that Nielson and Berner had to cover for them which meant that Oakley and Wellens had to cover for them, which left the midfield open - hence, Chaplow to have a number of chances, in which, one he scored.

Because of the attacking it was catching mostly Nielson out and his passes, sometimes were going a stray, but lets not forget that he has come from Hearts who play Scottish Premiership football. He has come to England, Leicester, The Championship and it is a lot faster than Scotland.

Give him time to settle in, but I have seen nothing wrong so far - apart from Saturday but all the team were poor that day.

[The Doctor]

Not if he clatters him in the 1st half like he did to Ross Wallace

Seriously though, I think Johnson will give us the run around tomorrow. He will be their main threat and we need to double up on him when we can.

as long as he gets the ball, which he almost did, its a brilliant challange. THe point of tackling is to take the ball then follow through and take the player out.

lets turn that around then shall we?

How can you say Nielsen is far stronger in every department than Gilbert if its a different division?

because the division neilson is playing in is a better standard to the one gilbert played in and neilson is doing just as well as gibert, if not better.

[Dr The Singh]

I'll start to appreciate him when he can do a proper job. It certainly doesn't look like he's going to do this soon.

Have you not seen his last few games? He's been awful. To be fair to him, he never stops trying and he does try and support the attack well. Also, I thought he started off the season quite well, but like Brown, he's slowly deteriorating. We can't afford to have our defence make the same mistakes every single game.

BUT, his final ball is awful, he constantly gives the ball away and he doesn't have the pace to get back which leaves our back line, (which isn't the quickest anyway dreadfully exposed.) he's made some very dangerous tackles this season and could've easily been sent off on Saturday.

I want to see everyone who plays for us do well, and I hope I can eat my words and begin to say that he's had a good game.

It all depends on what you want in your full back, defensively he's good, but in an attacking sense he's relatively poor!

[The Doctor]

It all depends on what you want in your full back, defensively he's good, but in an attacking sense he's relatively poor!

unless you're playing with no wingers and asking your full backs to get up and down the wing then you want him defending. this is why we should play oakley on the wing, he may not set the world alight there but he is very reliable and can drop back to cover when neilson gets foward as well as when the opposition are on the break and he's in a two against one (in favour of them) situation.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

unless you're playing with no wingers and asking your full backs to get up and down the wing then you want him defending. this is why we should play oakley on the wing, he may not set the world alight there but he is very reliable and can drop back to cover when neilson gets foward as well as when the opposition are on the break and he's in a two against one (in favour of them) situation.

But when he gets forward anyway there is no end product because he cant pass for shit. He is simply not good enough. Not his fault, he tries his hardest, but still not good enough. Anybody with half an idea of how to play football can see it.

[CosbehFox]

I just expect a modern full-back to be capable of putting in a decent cross. Every time, it lands at his feet in that position, you just look away. You can tell some players just don't have the confidence in him to perform.

[lou]

It doesn't matter how he plays tomorrow night, win or lose, people on here will still slag him off. He's this years Mattock.

Brilliant.... lets sell him to West Brom quick sharp!

[Bert]

Yep, just like DJ Campbell did as well.

Nielson is far stronger, in every way apart from pace, than Gilbert.

You're right, and that's why Gilbert's on the books at Arsenal.

[Webbo]

You're right, and that's why Gilbert's on the books at Arsenal.

He came up through the youth team they didn't buy him. He's not likely to be a first team player for them in anything other than a CC Cup game.

[DB11]

When he was still suspended, I met him at the training ground as he played in a Reserve game I officiated in. He was great and spoke to me, asking if I'm new to refereeing and he wishes me good luck etc. :D

[Shrenchel]

He's not nearly as shit as everyone is making out.

[maddog]

He's not nearly as shit as everyone is making out.

He just makes himself look shit by getting forward very well but then lobbing in awful crosses everytime, and then ending up totally out of his position because he's slow getting back.

Perhaps he would be best just staying back and not going forward. But we don't really have a consistent right winger either, Oakley is poor there, Adams hasn't been given a chance, Gradels disappeared, Dany is inconsistent, so in Saturdays game Neilson was basically playing right back and right wing.

[Ozwin]

I'm suprised he isn't a hit here, he's got Messi hair.

[Fox92]

He just makes himself look shit by getting forward very well but then lobbing in awful crosses everytime, and then ending up totally out of his position because he's slow getting back.

Perhaps he would be best just staying back and not going forward. But we don't really have a consistent right winger either, Oakley is poor there, Adams hasn't been given a chance, Gradels disappeared, Dany is inconsistent, so in Saturdays game Neilson was basically playing right back and right wing.

Yep - hence, him getting caught out of position, but I can't remember a goal coming from the left against Preston.

[Legend_in_blue]

He just makes himself look shit by getting forward very well but then lobbing in awful crosses everytime, and then ending up totally out of his position because he's slow getting back.

Perhaps he would be best just staying back and not going forward. But we don't really have a consistent right winger either, Oakley is poor there, Adams hasn't been given a chance, Gradels disappeared, Dany is inconsistent, so in Saturdays game Neilson was basically playing right back and right wing.

That's what Gilbert did. Albeit with more pace.

Physically, he's not up to it either.

To compare the two players is ludicrous, and to compare with Morrison is bordering on the absurd.

[Budweiser]

Yep - hence, him getting caught out of position, but I can't remember a goal coming from the left against Preston.

How about Preston's second?

[Fox92]

That's what Gilbert did. Albeit with more pace.

Physically, he's not up to it either.

To compare the two players is ludicrous, and to compare with Morrison is bordering on the absurd.

Agreed. How can people slate him and not slate N'Guessan who is by far the worst player within the side?

Gilbert used to do just what Nielson apparently does but you didn't notice it becuase of his pace.

How about Preston's second?

I know it was from a throw in, which no-one headed but you could see all game Chaplow was going to score.

Pearson did something wrong and that was attacking Preston, who just countered.

When attacking them, N'Guessan and Gallagher were told to go forward which meant Oakley and Wellens covering up for them, which left a whole in midfield, which Preston used and exploited.

Not sure it was Nielson's fault, he threw the ball into the box and no Leicester player won a header. They broke and scored.

[Legend_in_blue]

QUOTE (Budweiser @ Sep 29 2009, 06:28 PM)

How about Preston's second?

That came about because Wellens couldn't run. He should have been subbed at half time. It was a cringeworthy moment sitting in the west stand watching it unfold. It was clear he couldn't run, wasn't fit, and there was nothing he could do about it. NP should have rectified this at half time.

It was a really poor goal to concede, one which could have been averted had someone got the legs to keep up. In this case Wellens didn't.

[Escobar]

At least Morrison has replaced this Scottish goon tonight

[Fox92]

At least Morrison has replaced this Scottish goon tonight

FFS, a centre back at right back?

I love Morrison but at right back, out of position, against Johnson?

Scottish Goon? What games have you been to and where has he looked poor?

I have seen him 6/7 times live I think, and only once he has been poor, like the rest of the team.

I repeat, but FFS get off Nielsons back, or is it just a bandwagon now?

[Daggers]

What games have you been to and where has he looked poor?

The same ones which Pearson has watched, apparently.

[Ozwin]

Morrison sounded great tonight, a few mistakes but sounded a lot more comfortable that I expected.

Obviously might have been a different story since I listened to the radio but they weren't pointing him out as a weak link or anything.

[Corky]

FFS, a centre back at right back?

I love Morrison but at right back, out of position, against Johnson?

Scottish Goon? What games have you been to and where has he looked poor?

I have seen him 6/7 times live I think, and only once he has been poor, like the rest of the team.

I repeat, but FFS get off Nielsons back, or is it just a bandwagon now?

5 Live never singled out Morrison as a struggler tonight, so he must've done okay (obviously those at the match will have a clearer and much better view).

[tartanowl]

Has anyone seen a pattern that most of the time when you bring Scottish players to play in the English leagues they just don't seem to cut it?

He didn't really cut it in the SPL either. I'm friendly with a lot of Jambos and have Scottish roots and the majority hated him. Like I said when you signed him he's a very average footballer with a big throw.