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Foreign Manager resigns after yet another poor world cup campaign. Only English member of the coaching staff with managerial experience gets given the job.

Wait... This has happened before right? :P

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P 28 W 19 D 4 L 5 F 64: A 25

75% successful

thats capello's england record .so to all of you who want to get rid of capello WAKE UP his the best manager for along time. instead have a go at the overpaid ego players

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1. Get an English manager in. Redknapp would be my choice.

2. Not enough chances for young English talent in the Prem; this needs sorting.

3. Not enough youthful aspiration in England generally.

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1. Get an English manager in. Redknapp would be my choice.

2. Not enough chances for young English talent in the Prem; this needs sorting.

3. Not enough youthful aspiration in England generally.

exactly. The youngest generation don't really want to go outside and play football, they'd rather sit at home and play a football game on their Playstations or their x-boxs.

But what causes this? Personally i think it's because the facilities provided for kids to play football is atrocious - which brings us back round to the government and a lack of investment in facilities for kids to play football.

I'm not saying they should throw loads of money at it but just a small bit each year would tempt kids outside to play, lowering the countries Carbon footprint and all that eco stuff.

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exactly. The youngest generation don't really want to go outside and play football, they'd rather sit at home and play a football game on their Playstations or their x-boxs.

But what causes this? Personally i think it's because the facilities provided for kids to play football is atrocious - which brings us back round to the government and a lack of investment in facilities for kids to play football.

I'm not saying they should throw loads of money at it but just a small bit each year would tempt kids outside to play, lowering the countries Carbon footprint and all that eco stuff.

If the FA hadn't spent such an outrageous amount on Wembley plunging them into years of debt they're the ones that should be providing these facilities.

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Should he go? Yes. Several reasons really.

1) He played players out of position.

2) He took unfit players to the World Cup.

3) He did NOT pick players on form for England.

4) He failed to realise that the strict regime that works for a few days in bringing players together is divisive over a period of weeks.

What we really need though is for the FA to be rebuilt from scratch. To make this happen their needs to be a significant shift in the money. Clubs need to be paid when their players do well for England. Not sure exactly how, but seeing as money is the only thing the Prem clubs care about there needs to be financial reward.

Fewer teams and games in the Prem to be compensated by clubs being paid by the FA for players on England duty.

A winter break.

Abolish the League Cup, or remove Prem teams from the Competition.

Heavy investment in youth development. It worked with the Olympics.

Sell Wembley.

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I remember Bobby Robson in Euro 88. IIrc we lost every game. Everyone was calling for his head, the following tournament we had our best result since 66. Maybe the experience Capello has learnt from his first tournament will stand him in good stead for the next. Add that to the lack of an obvious replacement makes me wonder whether sacking him is a good idea, especially with all the money it'll cost.

I can't say that I'm that convinced by my own argument but I can't really think of a better one.

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If we want the youth to come through then we should make sure Stuart Pearce remains in the senior setup.

I still prefer Hodgson to come in. He has shown he can get players to perform at the top of their game, and he has managed Switzerland. He has the best CV of any English manager.

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P 28 W 19 D 4 L 5 F 64: A 25

75% successful

thats capello's england record .so to all of you who want to get rid of capello WAKE UP his the best manager for along time. instead have a go at the overpaid ego players

Yes and no. It is in the nature of international football that a successful manager wins the big games. After the last few weeks I do not believe Capello can do that. It could be his inexperience of what is required in Tourament football that is the issue but can he take the lessons onboard, change his methods and move on? I don't think so.

1. Get an English manager in. Redknapp would be my choice.

2. Not enough chances for young English talent in the Prem; this needs sorting.

3. Not enough youthful aspiration in England generally.

Redknapp has proved himself to be a decent premier league manager, but an international manager? I don't think so! You need to get away from this idea that what (players or managers) works in the Premier League will work in International football, the last four years and the last four weeks should have taught you that.

There is plenty of English talent, just look in the 'Future stars' thread. It is not picking them that is the problem.

The problems of lack of 'youthful aspiration' is not footballs issue to solve, even if it exists and I'm not sure that it does.

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As Rodney Marsh said on 5live last night about Capello's situation..."after two years we're bringing on Emile Heskey to get us out of trouble....."

Capello simply must go, he made fundamental selection decisions wrong and picked too many out of form and out of shape players. I'm not saying he should shoulder all of the blame, not by a long stretch as the players themselves have plenty to answer for, but I just don't think after all this Capello is the right man to go forward with. At £6million a year, we need fundamental decisions to be made correctly at the very very least.

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As Rodney Marsh said on 5live last night about Capello's situation..."after two years we're bringing on Emile Heskey to get us out of trouble....."

Capello simply must go, he made fundamental selection decisions wrong and picked too many out of form and out of shape players. I'm not saying he should shoulder all of the blame, not by a long stretch as the players themselves have plenty to answer for, but I just don't think after all this Capello is the right man to go forward with. At £6million a year, we need fundamental decisions to be made correctly at the very very least.

Nail > > Head.

Capello's style (or method if you prefer) is built around using experienced payers in a simple but rigid system, it worked well enough for the first year or so but it most definitely needed freshening up by the start of 2009/10 but Capello tried to freeze everything in place once qualification was a certainty and it just went horribly, and predictably wrong.

The players particularly the 'big' players should, of course, shoulder much of the blame but since they never turn up for big games, I do wonder why we keep picking them.

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The penny has finally dropped for me.

We need an English manager because of our players shit **** attitude.

Capello has neither the grasp of English the language or England the football team and their shitty outlook on playing for their country.

Redknapp in for me all day long, we will never win anything in my opinion but he has the best chance to get something from our shower of prima-donnas.

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The penny has finally dropped for me.

We need an English manager because of our players shit **** attitude.

Capello has neither the grasp of English the language or England the football team and their shitty outlook on playing for their country.

Redknapp in for me all day long, we will never win anything in my opinion but he has the best chance to get something from our shower of prima-donnas.

Yeah, if we'd had an English manager we could have avoided all of this by not qualifying in the first place..

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It lasted 11 minutes....

The old farts at the FA want 2 weeks to decide on Capello's future (Let it all die down then carry on as before)

Capello's only excuse for our abject performances was the players were tired.

Sky Sports News took about 5 minutes to shoot that down by providing proof that the German players had played MORE games.

This fella needs to jog on, he is only hanging around because this job is his pension money.

Someone at the FA needs to grow a pair of balls and make some serious decisions or any chance of England doing anything worthwhile are out the window for the foreseeable future.

Oh and Capello still can understand and speak English even to a basic level...

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Yeah, if we'd had an English manager we could have avoided all of this by not qualifying in the first place..

It's only Mclaren in recent years who failed. It was a one off. All of a sudden since then, the attitude is English managers aren't good enough.

Hoddle, Keegan, Venables all got us qualified.

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Yeah, if we'd had an English manager we could have avoided all of this by not qualifying in the first place..

In the words of Redknapp.... my misses could have qualified us from that group!

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It's only Mclaren in recent years who failed. It was a one off. All of a sudden since then, the attitude is English managers aren't good enough.

Hoddle, Keegan, Venables all got us qualified.

Yes, but that was at least ten years ago. At the moment I can't see many English managers I'd trust with the national team. My main point was that just because they're English doesn't mean we'll succeed like some people seem to think (and that isn't aimed at anyone in particular on here)

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It's only Mclaren in recent years who failed. It was a one off. All of a sudden since then, the attitude is English managers aren't good enough.

Hoddle, Keegan, Venables all got us qualified.

Don't forget Graham Taylor. And that Venables qualified us for nothing because we were hosting the Euro. Nor did Keegan get England to the World Cup Finals either. He quit after one game.

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Redknapp or Hodgson, both would take it straight away.

I'm not so sure they would. Redknapp has made the Champions League for starters, and at his age I'm not so sure it's an opportunity he'll want to pass up on. As for Hodgson, I think if he's offered the Liverpool job, no matter what strife they are undeniably in, he'd fancy that above the England job. And I think they both deep down know that the England job is a poisoned chalice that at this stage of their careers they'd probably want to swerve.

Now I've said that you can guarantee one of them will take it straight away lol

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Redknapp has proved himself to be a decent premier league manager, but an international manager? I don't think so! You need to get away from this idea that what (players or managers) works in the Premier League will work in International football, the last four years and the last four weeks should have taught you that.

There is plenty of English talent, just look in the 'Future stars' thread. It is not picking them that is the problem.

The problems of lack of 'youthful aspiration' is not footballs issue to solve, even if it exists and I'm not sure that it does.

Disagree about Redknapp. While he may not have the trophies or even credentials of a man like Capello, he knows the English game like no other and I think this is the most important point, not that he's English. At the end of the day our squad all play (I think?) in the English leagues. I guess there is an argument to say that most of them play among European players, but none of them strike me as stylish or magician-like. All are direct, enjoy crossing, the odd long pass, long shots, and to get stuck into the other teams. Play to your strengths! Obviously a lot of things are out of an international managers control like youth setup, the direction of the national leagues etc, but its no good implementing a European style of play on core English players. I'd even be quick to point at Joachim Low as an example. His managerial career was nothing to shout about, dismissed more than once, experience of relegation, a 4th spot in the Bundesliga yet his "poor German side" as the media held it pre-match, made us look like mugs. The man clearly knows the german game and the german players, but had Klinsmann not took a punt on him he'd never be where he is. We just don't know what impact Harry would or wouldnt have, personally I think it's worth the risk.

One thing is for sure, he wouldn't have let that crock of shite drag their asses around the pitch for 4 games in front of the world. He'd have made sure every single one of them knew they should be proud to be on that pitch and in that shirt. We say it week in week out with Leicester, so long as every player comes off the pitch having given 100%, you can't ask for much more. Harry's come out to say today he wouldn't turn the job down, I really hope the FA don't fck about with this and get him signed.

Capello's record speaks for itself, he's a fantastic coach, this just isn't the job for him in my opinion. I still think his low level of English has contributed in some way, I just can't see how he can instil any confidence in a half time team talk when no one can understand him or he's using a translator. I expected us to come out second half all guns blazing against Germany after a goal and another disallowed, instead they came back out like it was a friendly.

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can anyone remember when eveyone wanted keegan what happened got fired because he was crap. the bbc itv sky pundits need to shut up and just except england were not good enough on and off the field. people say we need an englishman to take charge . why capello is a world class manager working with overpaid large ego average players. i have not heard any one mention terry gerrard rooney lampard mention there 4 very poor games for england in the world cup. the tossers at the fa need to look at themselves and stop being run by the premier league. if i was capello i would just walk out and tell everyone who wants him out to stick the job

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exactly. The youngest generation don't really want to go outside and play football, they'd rather sit at home and play a football game on their Playstations or their x-boxs.

But what causes this? Personally i think it's because the facilities provided for kids to play football is atrocious - which brings us back round to the government and a lack of investment in facilities for kids to play football.

I'm not saying they should throw loads of money at it but just a small bit each year would tempt kids outside to play, lowering the countries Carbon footprint and all that eco stuff.

Facilities? All you need is a bit of grass and a couple of juumpers!

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I do realise I sound like an old man, but it's true.

As Rodney Marsh said on 5live last night about Capello's situation..."after two years we're bringing on Emile Heskey to get us out of trouble....."

Capello simply must go, he made fundamental selection decisions wrong and picked too many out of form and out of shape players. I'm not saying he should shoulder all of the blame, not by a long stretch as the players themselves have plenty to answer for, but I just don't think after all this Capello is the right man to go forward with. At £6million a year, we need fundamental decisions to be made correctly at the very very least.

Dandanieldannok mentions Heskey in a post?!? :o

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