Fabio staying/going?

[The Doctor]

Facilities? All you need is a bit of grass and a couple of juumpers!

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I do realise I sound like an old man, but it's true.

maybe facilities is the wrong word but we could do without all exsisting grass being either paved over or made a no ball games area - better upkeep of what little playing fields still exsist would also be quite useful.

[davieG]

From the BBC

A bit of this might help if it really happens

Competitive sport is set to be revived in England's schools with the launch of a national competition based around the Olympics, ministers say.

The initiative is to be announced by the Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt and Education Secretary Michael Gove at the City of London Academy on Monday.

They will say the aim is to ensure the 2012 London Olympics leaves a lasting sporting legacy.

The schools competition will be funded by cash from the National Lottery.

Events will involve a wide range of sports including football, rugby, netball, golf, cricket, tennis, athletics, judo, gymnastics, swimming, table tennis, cycling and volleyball.

'Lessons for life'

From 2011, schools will compete against each other in district leagues, with winning athletes and teams qualifying for up to 60 county finals, with the most talented then selected for national finals.

The first championship will take place in the run-up to the 2012 Games, with paralympic-style events staged in parallel for young people with disabilities.

Mr Hunt told the Daily Mail: "I want to give a real boost to competitive sport in schools using the power of hosting the Olympic and Paralympic Games to encourage young people - whatever age or ability - to take part in this new competition.

"Sport - whether you win or lose - teaches young people great lessons for life. It encourages teamwork, dedication and striving to be the best that you can be."

Lottery funding of up to £10m a year, distributed by Sport England, will be used to create a new sports league structure for primary and secondary schools, culminating in the 2012 finals.

Mr Gove said: "We need to revive competitive sport in our schools. Fewer than a third of school pupils take part in regular competitive sport within schools, and fewer than one in five take part in regular competition between schools. The School Olympics give us a chance to change that for good."

[Dames]

I love how its always the same BS as it was when we had Sven in charge. 'An English manager would have won us the world cup, An English manager would have defeated hordes of invading aliens, English manager this, English manager that etc' Its pathetic really.

There really hasn't been a great English manager for 20 years theres been a few good ones but no great ones and we all remember the last clown that was in charge that was English. The FA have to pick the best man for the job regardless of nationality, a manager that will not listen to the FA and the Sponsors and pick the 'stars' just to line the FA's pocket a bit more, i'm sorry but i don't think the newest touted saviors 'Arry and Woy have the balls to do it, at their age they'd rather just walk away.

I really thought Capello was the man, bar picking Emile Heskey (Who doesn't do much wrong besides not score) His team selections generally worked and were spot on, we were rampant during qualifying. I still don't think its entirely his fault, I think he was pressured from the outside to pick certain players and slowly but surely he also let player power creep in and take over. At times it seemed like they all played with the arse because they wasn't getting their own way. Like some sort of rebellion against the managers policies, boo hoo, they had to sit in their rooms and rest for a few hours a day once every 4 years, such a hard life. The English team are a bunch of over-hyped and over-pampered man children that spit out their dummies when they don't get their own way. Capello didn't address this and it caused rifts in the squad, maybe it was his lack of English i don't know but for some reason he didn't quell the rebellion well enough.

An English manager wouldn't do much better, I've seen them all in the papers and on the TV licking the 'stars' arse's calling them all world class ETC. Appointing an English manager means we'd get stuck watching the same under performing man children that we have been stuck with for the last 4-8 years.

England need a manager that will not take any shit, a manager that will bomb out any player that spits his dummy out (They will soon come crawling back and learn how to behave.) A manager that isn't so stubborn, A manager that will be dedicated to pushing the FA to do more for the younger generations.

[dandannieldanok]

Dandanieldannok mentions Heskey in a post?!?

Don't worry it won't continue, as surely this world cup is the final nail in the coffin for his glittering international career.

[Tilley]

Don't worry it won't continue, as surely this world cup is the final nail in the coffin for his glittering international career.

You'd like to think so.

[Samilktray]

I hope Fabio stays, if we cant win anything under him we've got no chance. I do not want to see Redknapp as our manager, we may aswell give up on winning anything if he ever replaces Fabio.

[leicesterfox86]

Capello is a world class manager. If England team didn't show themselves as a top class side during this World Cup we should have a look at the players' fault instead of asking a manager - who used to be loved by English fans 3 weeks ago - to resign.

According to this World Cup betting blog, odds let think that Capello will resign,

but I hope he will stay until the Euro 2012.

[AyewJoking]

Yeah yeah Capello is a world class manager in the same way England have world class players!

I dont mind if he stays or goes, is it too much to expect him to be fluent in English though?

Does he not have lessons?

Can't he be bothered?

Is he slow?

[MC Prussian]

Don't worry it won't continue, as surely this world cup is the final nail in the coffin for his glittering international career.

He should do the obvious for a guy of his stature and age - do a Blaise N'Kufo and join [insert Major League Soccer team name here].

Oh, and did you hear the rumour that Beckham could get appointed as new England manager?

[Jon the Hat]

BBC says Capello to continue. Good call I think, he was not the main problem.

[Fosse Boy]

Looks like I won't have to re-write my Chris Weale chant too much then.

[dandannieldanok]

BBC says Capello to continue. Good call I think, he was not the main problem.

Well he was a big part of the failure even if it's down to the players who cross that white line. I know people have said forget about his salary it's not important, but at £6m a year the very very least you expect is simple fundamental decisions regarding the squad to be made correctly, and they weren't. Capello also told bare-faced lies about how he was going to pick his squads. Too much water has passed under the bridge in my opinion.

[marbelladave]

Well he was a big part of the failure even if it's down to the players who cross that white line. I know people have said forget about his salary it's not important, but at £6m a year the very very least you expect is simple fundamental decisions regarding the squad to be made correctly, and they weren't. Capello also told bare-faced lies about how he was going to pick his squads. Too much water has passed under the bridge in my opinion.

Surprisingly I agree...

[purpleronnie]

I cant believe that when the fans saw the team sheet against Algeria that anyone (who now are critising capello) would have thought it wasn't good enough to win, so suggesting he should have changed it backs the arguement that the england team isnt good enough. No team capello could have picked would have beaten germany.

[rico]

[marbelladave]

I cant believe that when the fans saw the team sheet against Algeria that anyone (who now are critising capello) would have thought it wasn't good enough to win, so suggesting he should have changed it backs the arguement that the england team isnt good enough. No team capello could have picked would have beaten germany.

Sorry, but that is just plain wrong.

With hindsight Capello made a huge error not changing the squad when he was appointed but didn't. Some people, myself included called him on that, but as we started so well in qualifying it became harder to to offer criticsm and to be honest I, and many others were taken in to a degree.

However it was clear from the start of 2009/10 that things were not going right and this time a lot of people called this. As we fumbled our way towards the tournament it became increasingly clear that it was going wrong.

All Capello's stated criterea regarding form and fitnes were going out the window and an over-reliance on 'experience' and 'big' names replaced it anyone with a brain could see the shit coming.

The team against Algeria (and Germany) was a joke, divided, self indulgent, old and slow. Rooney and Barry were so unfit they could barely manage a jog, Gerrard and Lampard competing to see who could be the most selfish and self obsessed, Terry playing entirely on his own, etc, etc.

Capello should show some cajones and quit, now!

[purpleronnie]

Sorry, but that is just plain wrong.

With hindsight Capello made a huge error not changing the squad when he was appointed but didn't. Some people, myself included called him on that, but as we started so well in qualifying it became harder to to offer criticsm and to be honest I, and many others were taken in to a degree.

However it was clear from the start of 2009/10 that things were not going right and this time a lot of people called this. As we fumbled our way towards the tournament it became increasingly clear that it was going wrong.

All Capello's stated criterea regarding form and fitnes were going out the window and an over-reliance on 'experience' and 'big' names replaced it anyone with a brain could see the shit coming.

The team against Algeria (and Germany) was a joke, divided, self indulgent, old and slow. Rooney and Barry were so unfit they could barely manage a jog, Gerrard and Lampard competing to see who could be the most selfish and self obsessed, Terry playing entirely on his own, etc, etc.

Capello should show some cajones and quit, now!

How do you know its wrong? but no-one was moaning during the qualifiers, problem is no-one will ever know if he had changed things it would have improved anything, infact it could have made it worse.

My point was a lot of people who now critisise capello were the same people stating we had a great team, that team failed. Gerrard, rooney, lampard, barry etc etc... All not good enough to beat Algeria, I doubt people would want those players dropped but now want capello sacked.

[marbelladave]

How do you know its wrong? but no-one was moaning during the qualifiers, problem is no-one will ever know if he had changed things it would have improved anything, infact it could have made it worse.

My point was a lot of people who now critisise capello were the same people stating we had a great team, that team failed. Gerrard, rooney, lampard, barry etc etc... All not good enough to beat Algeria, I doubt people would want those players dropped but now want capello sacked.

People were complaining during the qualifiers, I know I took part in a fair number of the debates!

A lot of people had broadly comparable views, particularly from about the half way point (in qualifying) when it became obvious that Capello was falling back into the old and failed ways of England managers. To sum up, rather briefly;

Capello was returning to the 'untouchables' system that had failed under both Ericsson and McClaran.

New players were not being brought through so there was no one to back up or re-energise the side as it became more and more stale.

In fact the new players were the ones regularly scapegoated when performances fell below par.

The move back to 4-4-2 and away from the passing game that Capello had started to instigate in his earlier games.

Some people never stated that "we had a great team" anyone could see that we were mediocre and getting worse, a process that started some 9 months before the start of the Tournament.

As for the players, the ones you mention are exactly the ones that have to go (Barry excepted) and the reason Capello has to go is simple, his methods are rigid and unbending, he is over reliant on 'experience' and he has no idea how to bring on young players.

In short he fails completely to make the most from the players he does have available because he keeps picking the same old losers.

[Webbo]

In short he fails completely to make the most from the players he does have available because he keeps picking the same old losers.

I'm sorry but I can't just let that pass. There is not a manager in the world that wouldn't have picked Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard or Ashley Cole.Some of the other players you could argue about but there wasn't any better, fit English qualified player that weren't in the squad.

[purpleronnie]

People were complaining during the qualifiers, I know I took part in a fair number of the debates!

A lot of people had broadly comparable views, particularly from about the half way point (in qualifying) when it became obvious that Capello was falling back into the old and failed ways of England managers. To sum up, rather briefly;

Capello was returning to the 'untouchables' system that had failed under both Ericsson and McClaran.

New players were not being brought through so there was no one to back up or re-energise the side as it became more and more stale.

In fact the new players were the ones regularly scapegoated when performances fell below par.

The move back to 4-4-2 and away from the passing game that Capello had started to instigate in his earlier games.

Some people never stated that "we had a great team" anyone could see that we were mediocre and getting worse, a process that started some 9 months before the start of the Tournament.

As for the players, the ones you mention are exactly the ones that have to go (Barry excepted) and the reason Capello has to go is simple, his methods are rigid and unbending, he is over reliant on 'experience' and he has no idea how to bring on young players.

In short he fails completely to make the most from the players he does have available because he keeps picking the same old losers.

I agree, I'm one of those who thought our qualifying group was easy and the over reaction on how we were so good completely baffling, but I also know that theres no way capello had time to mould a entire new squad and I also believe the quality isnt there to do this even if he wanted too. If a manager had 10 years to mould a young new squad that would be great but unfortunately they dont.

I can just imagine the headlines if he left out rooney, gerrard, lampard, and if they had failed like they did (and they would) the reasons would have been 'he left out rooney etc etc'. The players can continue to fail but people still blame the manager. You could pick any manager in the world and I believe the outcome would be the same unless as I stated they give him many years to overhaul the side.

[marbelladave]

I'm sorry but I can't just let that pass. There is not a manager in the world that wouldn't have picked Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard or Ashley Cole.Some of the other players you could argue about but there wasn't any better, fit English qualified player that weren't in the squad.

Ericsson, McClaran and now Capello would all agree with you, but what have those managers achieved with those players?

The answer is nothing, not one solitary win against quality opposition when it really mattered! The closest you can get is Ericssons famous win in Munich and that was only a qualifier 8 years ago in a group that we should have had well under control by that time.

You simply do not get it do you? These players are 3 time losers, they are the problem, not the solution. We know they will never show up when it matters and we have no idea whether we have players better suited to international football because we have never given them a chance!

I agree, I'm one of those who thought our qualifying group was easy and the over reaction on how we were so good completely baffling, but I also know that theres no way capello had time to mould a entire new squad and I also believe the quality isnt there to do this even if he wanted too. If a manager had 10 years to mould a young new squad that would be great but unfortunately they dont.

I can just imagine the headlines if he left out rooney, gerrard, lampard, and if they had failed like they did (and they would) the reasons would have been 'he left out rooney etc etc'. The players can continue to fail but people still blame the manager. You could pick any manager in the world and I believe the outcome would be the same unless as I stated they give him many years to overhaul the side.

Capello had two and a half years, Loew remodeled the German squad in about 12 months, Capello had the time. In that time how many new players did he bring through, just one, the ever so slightly flaky Glen Johnson. As for the quality, it may or may not be there, how would we know, we never gave it a chance!

Dropping the tabloid's favourites is why Capello gets the big bucks, shit, if picking the same players all the time is what it takes then even you could do it, just phone in the team. In fact I'll save you the trouble, just pick a keeper who has not dropped anything recently, whoever you fancy to keep the no7 shirt warm for Becknam and the current Sky/tabloid favourite to partner Rooney, the rest is the same as always. That will be £5m please.

Capello should not get the sack because the players failed him, he should get the sack for picking the players who always fail, every fooking time!

[Webbo]

If you think we'd get better results with some championship scuffers, I think it's you who doesn't get it. I suppose there's a million to one chance you could be right but I doubt it. You're tenure as England manager would be terminated 2 minutes after you'd handed in the team sheet.

[Tilley]

I think we need to say to the likes of Lampard, Heskey, Carrick, SWP, Terry and maybe even Rooney for a while, thanks but your international career stops here. I would include Gerrard, Cole, Johnson and one or two others.

Hart

Johnson Rio Dawson A.Cole

Huddlestone Barry

Milner Gerrard Johnson

Defoe

That'd be my starting XI for the first qualifier. Having two sitting midfielders seems to work in international football, it means your front four can attack and stay forward. Only person I might replace is Rio but couldn't think of anyone to go there as I think Terry has had his day. Richards? Cahill? Jagielka? I don't know.

Capello needs to ditch the 4-4-2 and ship out the underachievers.

I would like to see players like Gibbs, Rodwell, Young, Walcott, Agbonlahor, Sturridge, Wilshere all given a go.

[marbelladave]

If you think we'd get better results with some championship scuffers, I think it's you who doesn't get it. I suppose there's a million to one chance you could be right but I doubt it. You're tenure as England manager would be terminated 2 minutes after you'd handed in the team sheet.

Firstly who on earth suggested a team of championship "scuffers", not me, not ever!

We have plenty of good players in the Premier League but you, just like Sky and the tabloid press write them off because they are not 'high profile' and don't play for 'Sky/Big4' teams. These players are are invariably rejected as 'not good enough', anyone who disagrees with this assessment is usually dismissed with the usual 'you know nothing about football' comment.

Sure some of the players I favour might not make the step up, but many will for the simple reason that international football is so different from club football that success in the latter in no way guarantees success in the former. Just ask Frank, Steve or Wayne!

More proof? Our best and most consistent player over the last couple of years is Gareth Barry, our only regular (outfield) starter not to play for a Sky/Big4 team, yet when England play poorly and Gerrard and Lampard go missing in midfield it is Barry whose head is called for.

You couldn't make it up and fortunately I don't have to!

Any manager who dropped the media's darlings en masse would be crucified as you say. Does not make him wrong though!

[dandannieldanok]

I'd personally turf Barry out aswell. I don't know whether his lack of match fitness was the reason behind it but he just look so out of place in the Germany match, couldn't pass, couldn't tackle, couldn't run.