somebum Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 People seem to be forgetting that he was offered a new contract which he turned down. I don't like Mandaric but the fact was Pearson was offered a new contract way before the summer and way before any news of Thai investment. Pearson was not fully committed to the club. I couldn't give a toss about him and his shitty employers, he sure won't be giving a shit about Leicester anymore. What nonsense you speak. Do you know the terms of the contract? Pearson did a great job here and I bet Mandaric offered him an extra 10 quid. And who could blame him anyway from walking away from idiot fickle supporters like yourself? Pathetic mate
Webbo Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 Well nobody knows for sure what went on. There is no evidence to prove he was pushed. So maybe people should stop talking like it's a fact. What we do know is he was under contract and he wasn't sacked. So he did choose to leave as nobody could force him to go to Hull if he didn't really want to go. People seem to be forgetting that he was offered a new contract which he turned down. I don't like Mandaric but the fact was Pearson was offered a new contract way before the summer and way before any news of Thai investment. Pearson was not fully committed to the club. I couldn't give a toss about him and his shitty employers, he sure won't be giving a shit about Leicester anymore. Dead right. I don't know why Pearson left but I don't believe the current accepted version. I find it hard to believe the Thais had even heard of Paulo Sousa.
dandannieldanok Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 What nonsense you speak. Do you know the terms of the contract? Pearson did a great job here and I bet Mandaric offered him an extra 10 quid. And who could blame him anyway from walking away from idiot fickle supporters like yourself? Pathetic mate Pearson was offered a pay rise, but he was given no guarantees over transfer budgets which is why he didn't sign. Can you explain where I've been fickle?
Bilbo Posted 29 September 2010 Author Posted 29 September 2010 People seem to be forgetting that he was offered a new contract which he turned down. I don't like Mandaric but the fact was Pearson was offered a new contract way before the summer and way before any news of Thai investment. Pearson was not fully committed to the club. I couldn't give a toss about him and his shitty employers, he sure won't be giving a shit about Leicester anymore. Or the club wasn't fully committed to him? Rob Tanner: So, why did you leave? Nigel Pearson: Firstly, the process of the approach. Hull City approached Leicester and Leicester agreed to let Hull speak to me. That surprised people at Hull, but I was surprised a little bit myself. RT: Why did it surprise you? Did you think they would have fought to keep you? NP: Yes, essentially.
dandannieldanok Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 Or the club wasn't fully committed to him? Rob Tanner: So, why did you leave? Nigel Pearson: Firstly, the process of the approach. Hull City approached Leicester and Leicester agreed to let Hull speak to me. That surprised people at Hull, but I was surprised a little bit myself. RT: Why did it surprise you? Did you think they would have fought to keep you? NP: Yes, essentially. The guy refused the club's offer of a new contract. If I was in Mandaric's position, yes my commitment to the bloke would have waned.
Bilbo Posted 29 September 2010 Author Posted 29 September 2010 The guy refused the club's offer of a new contract. If I was in Mandaric's position, yes my commitment to the bloke would have waned. Pearson stated in various interviews he was happy at Leicester and with the team/squad he had and was planning for the upcoming season - if he refused his contract IMO it was because Mandaric didn't rate him as one of the best young managers in the country and his contract probably reflected that.
JimmyK Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 I think it will be difficult for Pearson seeing players which many saw him as a mentor (Hobbs,Morrison, King) struggling to play. Hull have conceded 4 goals against a newly promoted side themselves this season (without response, unlike our 3) and had another thrashing by the same scoreline in their last match, they're doing better than us but they aren't exactly flying under him at the moment. I think NP is probably going to be too busy sorting Hull out to be sentimental about his return. Besides, if Hobbs and Morrison continue to struggle under Sousa (or whoever else we have) come January, maybe he'll put a bid in.
Jakemoore Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 It's likely to be an even stranger atmosphere if Soussa manages to keep his job. Never been to a match where the opposition boss is more popular than the one in charge of the home team. Some of the chants could make it very awkward for Soussa and for Pearson too I suppose. Looool
Jakemoore Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 Pearson stated in various interviews he was happy at Leicester and with the team/squad he had and was planning for the upcoming season - if he refused his contract IMO it was because Mandaric didn't rate him as one of the best young managers in the country and his contract probably reflected that. Or Madaric forced him out in order to internationalize our club. Fat load of good that's done so far, time for Milan to go Back to his 'belloved' Pompey
ajthefox Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Pearson may have technically left, but for me that means little. No-one knows exactly what happened and nor will we ever, but all things considered I certainly don't think Pearson wanted to leave. Mandaric is a goon and I seriously hope Pearson doesn't get stick, although there are bound to be some. What he achieved, regardless of how his spell ended should be acknowledged and respected as it was so much more than what anyone could have expected. Booing him is the act of someone who is frankly disillusioned.
Kitchandro Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 My gut feeling is Pearson was pushed out. He said they didn't do enough to keep him. Mandaric said nothing. That's relevant. He didn't say 'we did our best to keep Nigel but he felt it was time to move on and we wish him well' Saying nothing raises serious questions, as does what Nigel said. Think about it for a second, Pearson is an intelligent bloke, why would he think he was better off at Hull? Certainly he's not benefited from the finances there. Leicester is a bigger club. We still had the momentum as we had a very positive seaswon behind us. Mandaric could have easily kept Pearson if he tried hard enough, obviously he didn't rate him enough. This means the blame lies with him. I also have a feeling the Thais met Pearson and it could have been something to do with that. Pearson wouldn't have like being told that they were going to pick some of the players for him (Abe for example, the ones coming in January, and I also don't think he'd be in favour of the trip next week in mid season). Pearson's his own man, and would not have stood for being a puppet. There are a few theories, but my feeling is it is Mandaric's fault. I shall certainly not boo Pearson.
Jimmy Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Nigel Pearson was stalling on a new contract as far back as last January saying he'd sign it at the end of the season, he then rejected the contract he'd already verbally agreed to so Mandaric allowed him to leave in a way that we got compensation for him instead of him going for nothing.
Babylon Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 My gut feeling is Pearson was pushed out. He said they didn't do enough to keep him. Mandaric said nothing. That's relevant. He didn't say 'we did our best to keep Nigel but he felt it was time to move on and we wish him well' Saying nothing raises serious questions, as does what Nigel said Instantly you flaw your own argument because Mandaric did say he wanted to keep him and quite a bit more.
James. Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 A lot of people talking about things like they're facts when I don't believe anyone knows the complete story. My gut feeling (and I admit I have been talking about it like it is fact so I'm as guilty as anyone) is that he was pushed out as part of the takeover, or at the very least we didn't do enough to keep him. In summary I blame the Thais for everything. Instantly you flaw your own argument because Mandaric did say he wanted to keep him and quite a bit more. And you believe what Mandaric says?
Babylon Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 And you believe what Mandaric says? FFS he said MM said nothing about Pearson, well the facts are he did. You can't bash the bloke for not saying anything and then then when you find out he did bash him again because you think he's a lier. Why should I believe what Pearson says, you only have to look at his interviews at the time to see what he said was all very carefully worded and it could all be taken in different ways. I'm no fan of theirs but the bashing of MM and PS is getting ridiculous, damned if they do and damned if they don't at the minute.
poopbutt Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 hge chose to leave so I don't give a shit how he'd feel, I personally hope no-one even acknowledges his presence you massive mongoloid
James. Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 FFS he said MM said nothing about Pearson, well the facts are he did. You can't bash the bloke for not saying anything and then then when you find out he did bash him again because you think he's a lier. Why should I believe what Pearson says, you only have to look at his interviews at the time to see what he said was all very carefully worded and it could all be taken in different ways. I'm no fan of theirs but the bashing of MM and PS is getting ridiculous, damned if they do and damned if they don't at the minute. My point was simply that no one really knows what happened and that we can't rely on what anyone has said (Mandaric, Pearson, anybody). You're right though, the whole thing (not just MM and PS bashing) is getting a bit farcical. Hopefully we'll just lose win on Saturday and everyone will be happy again.
bettso Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 My point was simply that no one really knows what happened and that we can't rely on what anyone has said (Mandaric, Pearson, anybody). You're right though, the whole thing (not just MM and PS bashing) is getting a bit farcical. Hopefully we'll just lose win on Saturday and everyone will be happy again. Most have made their minds up so wont be happy until PS and MM are gone and the new owners have a race transplant making them born and bred Leicester locals.
davieG Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 I'm no big fan of being overly welcome to returning managers/players now plying their trade for the opposition in intent on beating us but if those people that are so decided on getting Sousa out at any cost they might find that cheering Pearson and ignoring Sousa will provide a stronger message of disapproval of Mandaric than simply booing Sousa and hoping we lose as a result which has all the hallmarks of a rabid bunch of idiots and will likely be ignored. It will also have less of a negative affect on the players morale and confidence.
marbelladave Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 I'm no big fan of being overly welcome to returning managers/players now plying their trade for the opposition in intent on beating us but if those people that are so decided on getting Sousa out at any cost they might find that cheering Pearson and ignoring Sousa will provide a stronger message of disapproval of Mandaric than simply booing Sousa and hoping we lose as a result which has all the hallmarks of a rabid bunch of idiots and will likely be ignored. It will also have less of a negative affect on the players morale and confidence. Mind games Davie, this is getting tooooo complicated. It's simple. Support all our players who put in a shift... Ignore "The person we currently have" until he does something right... Give NFP the reception he deserves on arrival, then support our team throughout, whatever happens...
seymour Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Mind games Davie, this is getting tooooo complicated. It's simple. Support all our players who put in a shift... Ignore "The person we currently have" until he does something right... Give NFP the reception he deserves on arrival, then support our team throughout, whatever happens... Not rocket science really
1964FOX Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Others have said similar but my personal view is NP gave us 2 good years, got the club back in the championship with a more than satisfactory season last year once we have returned. I shall acknowledge him as I would ex players with a round of applause prior to the game. Once that is over and the game begins he becomes our enemy and I will hope we stuff him and his team. My full support will turn to my current team and the current manager in charge at the game.
Jimmy Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 I'm no big fan of being overly welcome to returning managers/players now plying their trade for the opposition in intent on beating us but if those people that are so decided on getting Sousa out at any cost they might find that cheering Pearson and ignoring Sousa will provide a stronger message of disapproval of Mandaric than simply booing Sousa and hoping we lose as a result which has all the hallmarks of a rabid bunch of idiots and will likely be ignored. It will also have less of a negative affect on the players morale and confidence. if we lose tomorrow I seriously doubt Sousa will still be here by the time we play Hull
Corky Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 I'll probably give him a clap and then hope we beat him 5-0.
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