Zingari Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 the FA cup mid week trip to Harlow was a bitter night to remember
maddog Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Definitely wycombe. Still remember the discussions about which ground we would play the semi final and the crying at the end of the game like it was y'day. That result lead to our demise, we may never c lcfc that high in the pl again in our lives. Relegation to league 1 lead us to promotion, pearson, playoffs and penalties. Now we have Sven, new owners and a good squad so I would never want to change the stoke result.
stripeyfox Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 As a footnote to the Wycombe game, I remember sitting in the kop for a while after the match as Filbo emptied watching the Wycombe lads celebrate what must have been a pretty amazing day out. Their keeper that day was Martin Taylor who of course was in the sticks for Derby at Wembley 94. The kop had given him some shit during the (Wycombe) match which he'd taken in good spirits. He broke away from the celebrations in front of the Wycombe fans in the East Stand and took the time to come over to the kop and clap the Leicester fans who had remained and seemed to be making a good effort to be magnanimous in victory. Fair play to him.
davieG Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Wycombe, Bolton would surely have meant Taylor would have lasted longer 63 Cup final for me we were favourites to beat Man U having already taking 3 from 4 points from them I doubt we've ever been that good a team since, never having won a major honour, even Cov have cup final to their name especially now we're no longer No 9 and that was our best chance ever to put real silver into the trophy cabinet not this League 3 shite.
Babylon Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Win or lose against Wycombe we'd still be where we are now, Taylor was a mess and it was only a matter of time before it all went wrong. Gotta be an FA cup final for me, just so we wouldn't get the "You've never won anything" crap.
teblin Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Just for how bad I felt on the day it would have to Stoke 2008.
Guest Bilo Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Stoke 08 was one of the best things to happen to our club - despite the tears at the time I agree. I wouldn't change that result for anything now. If we'd finished 21st, we'd probably have done exactly what Coventry have since. Two years of mediocrity, no investment, falling attendances and a manager playing hoofball. That relegation marked a turning point for this club.
FoxyPV Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 The relegation was eventually a good thing for the club so I wouldn't include that. The FA cup final defeat would be one for nostalgia sake. I'd change one moment that influenced a result and that would be Bruce fouling Chopra in the box for the penalty in the playoffs last year as without that we'd have been in the final and after that who knows?
lou Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Win or lose against Wycombe we'd still be where we are now, Taylor was a mess and it was only a matter of time before it all went wrong. Gotta be an FA cup final for me, just so we wouldn't get the "You've never won anything" crap. Pretty much exactly what I was going to post. Also Id not want to change the Stoke result as that season in Lge 1 was one of the best Ive had and its all been for the best in the long run. Another one Id love to have ended differently was our last cup game at Stamford Bridge... it was an epic night and we lost! Imagine if wed have won it!
dave_the_fox Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Roy Essandoh Sanchez watching the goal on the monitor in the concourse and running back onto the pitch Akinbiyi missing that one on one straight from our kick off after THAT goal
CosbehFox Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 As Babs and Lou mention, there was plenty behind the scenes which led to the downfall post-Wycombe. I went to the game the week after at Old Trafford and our team was a woeful collection of performers for the Premiership.
Prospero Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 The 0-5 match v Bolton on the first day of the 2001/02 season. The Wycombe one is the most obvious but if we'd managed to beat Bolton we might've done okay that season. Wycombe was a turning point, losing to a lower league team that had to advertise for a striker on the internet to play in the match. However, returning optimistically for a new season only to lose 0-5 to newly promoted Bolton was, in my opinion, far more damaging to morale. Strangely, no defeat since has upset me more. I agree that had we won this match, the season might have progressed more favourably. Well, it’s history now. For what it’s worth, Peter Taylor used to live near me and I met him a few days after this defeat at a football competition for kids. He was always a tough, prosaic character but he was utterly shattered by the result and said he feared the team would not recover. He was right the team did not recover and neither did his reputation after he was sacked shortly after. His sacking led to the unmerry go round of managers that we have endured up to now and from which the club has not yet fully recovered, despite the successful interlude under Nigel Pearson and the current confidence in Sven.
ibbosuk Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Wembley 69 i was genuinely inconsolable l Wycombe at home, is stupid choice, everybody gets beaten by the underdog at some point so (Suck it up)!! That result did not put silverwear on the shelf, Did it ?? Its got to be Wembley 1969 I'd change that to this: Leicester City 2 V 1 Manchester City .......................................... Goal Scorers (Lockhead 2) (Young)
stripeyfox Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 l Wycombe at home, is stupid choice, everybody gets beaten by the underdog at some point so (Suck it up)!! That result did not put silverwear on the shelf, Did it ?? Its got to be Wembley 1969 I'd change that to this: Leicester City 2 V 1 Manchester City .......................................... Goal Scorers (Lockhead 2) (Young) I think the reason many people have singled out the Wycombe match is not because of the defeat that day - I think most of us did "suck it up" as you say, but more for the way that history seems to suggest the match was something of a watershed moment between the last vestiges of the O'Neill era and the shite that followed it. As already mentioned, we went into that match on a high having seen off Chelsea and Liverpool in the previous matches and what followed was a dreadful run of ten defeats (or maybe it was 11?).
ibbosuk Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 I think the reason many people have singled out the Wycombe match is not because of the defeat that day - I think most of us did "suck it up" as you say, but more for the way that history seems to suggest the match was something of a watershed moment between the last vestiges of the O'Neill era and the shite that followed it. As already mentioned, we went into that match on a high having seen off Chelsea and Liverpool in the previous matches and what followed was a dreadful run of ten defeats (or maybe it was 11?). Do you really think that changing that one result would of stopped all that was to follow ? No way !! So what would then be the point of changing that meaningless result ? Here is the difference. YOU get one wish and you wish for 50p I get one wish and I wish for HEALTH (WRONG!! I already have money) Thats the difference..............................PAL..............
bettso Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Play off final of 92 against Blackburn. The season that followed was the birth of the Premier League and was the start of when football's divide of the top two divisions began. The team we had at the time would have certainly been succesful and Brian Little had them playing the best football for decades. Steve Walsh hadn't started his injury woe, Millsy and Gibbo still had 3 years left in them, Thompson, Oldfield, Russell and Wright were all in the prime of their powers and Russell and Wright certainly wouldnt have left and the young Julian Joachim had yet to burst onto the scene. I firmly believe that if this team had have gone up, we would have become a stalwart in the Premiership and would still be there today.
ibbosuk Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Play off final of 92 against Blackburn. The season that followed was the birth of the Premier League and was the start of when football's divide of the top two divisions began. The team we had at the time would have certainly been succesful and Brian Little had them playing the best football for decades. Steve Walsh hadn't started his injury woe, Millsy and Gibbo still had 3 years left in them, Thompson, Oldfield, Russell and Wright were all in the prime of their powers and Russell and Wright certainly wouldnt have left and the young Julian Joachim had yet to burst onto the scene. I firmly believe that if this team had have gone up, we would have become a stalwart in the Premiership and would still be there today. So you think winning the play off final in 92 would of lead to 18 years of Premiership football, I doubt that very much. Blackburn have had all the Walker money in that time and were still unable to keep there premiership place.
ibbosuk Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 I hate agreeing with you, but to further that point, Blackburn went up with Ipswich and Middlesbrough, who didn't last long. Thank you and you make some astute observations don't worry about agreeing with me, that's normal, I cum across people like you in my everyday work, you have a natural ability to fathom the point, the crux of the matter. I applauded you sir.
thebartonfox Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 It's got to be the play-offs last season. That penalty by Kermorgant still haunts me...
bettso Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 So you think winning the play off final in 92 would of lead to 18 years of Premiership football, I doubt that very much. Blackburn have had all the Walker money in that time and were still unable to keep there premiership place. I think the team and manager that we had at the time were more than capable of establishing themselves in the Premiership which I believe would have lead to us establishing ourselves in that league. Blackburn actually won the Premiership before their demise so possibly not the best example for you to use. Of course it's impossible to say whether or not we would have had 18 years of sustained Premiership football so I do recognise your point, although my thoughts and memories of the time were of a team that played good football with good technical and pacey players, a great manager and a great work ethic. I genuinly think that that particular team and unit would have had many years of success.
bettso Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 It's got to be the play-offs last season. That penalty by Kermorgant still haunts me... The more you watch it, the more unbelievalbe it becomes. At the time I was kind of on his side and stuck up for him a bit afterwards. But as time goes by, I remember the amount of passion and self belief the other players had on that night and in one stupid, selfish moment, he basically pissed all over the work that had gone before.
stripeyfox Posted 26 October 2010 Posted 26 October 2010 Do you really think that changing that one result would of stopped all that was to follow ? No way !! So what would then be the point of changing that meaningless result ? Here is the difference. YOU get one wish and you wish for 50p I get one wish and I wish for HEALTH (WRONG!! I already have money) Thats the difference..............................PAL.............. Changing one result would not have changed what followed - agreed, but part of football is looking at "turning points" in a game or in a season, and the Wycombe game clearly was a turning point in that particuar season. For that reason alone, it is likely that people will single it out as a result they would "change". Please also note that this game was not my choice (read earlier post) Don't understand the point you're trying to make with the 50p thing but it could just be me.
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