Ricey Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Just listened to the post match interview with Micky Adams from last night and he stated that Leicester had "...spent an absolute fortune on assembling their squad". I have a lot of respect for Adams, but that comment is incorrect if you look at the team that started last night: Weale - Free Van Aanholt - Loan Mee - Loan Bamba - £250k Naughton - Loan Abe - Undisclosed, thought to be nominal King- Youth Wellens - £1m Vassell - Free Dyer - Free Yakubu - Loan Granted Yakubu is an expensive loan, but if you look at those stats we are probably one of the least expensively assembled teams in the league. Compare that to the Sheffield United team: Simonsen - Free Ertl - Free Mattock - Loan Lowry - Loan Parrino - Loan Montgomery - Youth Doyle - Free Williamson - £500k Evans - £3m Cresswell - Free Bent - Loan Thus making their team over twice as expensive as ours! We've got this reputation, not through who we have signed, but who we were trying to sign. Beckham, Henry, Keane, Santa Cruz, Given etc. Attempting to sign players of that calibre proves we have money, however Yakubu apart, we haven't actually spent it yet. I think it's harsh for people to start labelling us in the same bracket as Chelsea and Man City. If we get promoted this season it will be with a squad of mainly free and loan transfers, just like most the division.
Uncle Monty Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 You mention the loans. There must have been lots of loan fees involved as well as the high wages we are paying. I can agree with what Micky is saying but who cares? It's about time we had some money, he is just making excuses. We must have had one of the most expensive teams in the division when he took us up - sounds like sour grapes to me.
Foxybeaver Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 TBH i dont care if we buy promotion as long as we get it :sge: in sven we trust
Ricey Posted 2 February 2011 Author Posted 2 February 2011 You mention the loans. There must have been lots of loan fees involved as well as the high wages we are paying. I can agree with what Micky is saying but who cares? It's about time we had some money, he is just making excuses. We must have had one of the most expensive teams in the division when he took us up - sounds like sour grapes to me. Yakubu probably had a loan fee but I doubt Naugton, Mee and Van Aanholt did as it's in their parents clubs best interest to give them experience.
BedsFox Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Original poster misses the point Its not wages, its the wage bill. Very few teams in this division are going to be able to afford Yakubu, Vassell, Naughton, Van Aanholt and the likes, even if a Prem club is paying part of the wages That's the competitive advantage our new found money has brought us
SMX11 Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 We haven't spent a great deal in terms of transfer fees but as other people have said we have probably made up for it in terms of wages. Forest spent about 7mil on players last year, QPR have spent a lot of money over the past 3 years, even Sheffield Utd have spent a lot of money recently. I don't think we have done any different than other teams. It just the hype of Sven and the reputation of some of the players coming in.
davieG Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Original poster misses the point Its not wages, its the wage bill. Very few teams in this division are going to be able to afford Yakubu, Vassell, Naughton, Van Aanholt and the likes, even if a Prem club is paying part of the wages That's the competitive advantage our new found money has brought us Of those you've mentioned that Sven has brought in only Yakubu would be on high wages for this league. Vassell wouldn't be that high as he was in a desperate situation as for the others they're all 1st time professionals with little or no experience so wouldn't be high waged. Even Bamba was not going to be on a big wage. I think Ricey has made a valid point it's all a myth.
Ricey Posted 2 February 2011 Author Posted 2 February 2011 Original poster misses the point Its not wages, its the wage bill. Very few teams in this division are going to be able to afford Yakubu, Vassell, Naughton, Van Aanholt and the likes, even if a Prem club is paying part of the wages That's the competitive advantage our new found money has brought us I agree that we now have the financial power to afford players like Yakubu's wages, but to say we have spent "an absolute fortune" is incorrect. I bet there are several teams in this division with higher wage bills than us. Obviously we aren't working on a shoestring budget, but by no means we we splashing the cash to an extent that we can be accused of buying promotion like some people have started to indicate.
Wymsey Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 In relation to Naughton's wages, i presume (as we got the cash) we are paying his wages fully, not partly? I think he's on high wages considering he used to play for the under 21's and the fact that several Premier clubs wanted him in the past (ie, Villa and Sunderland were interested in him last Summer)
Christoph Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Buying promotion is fine with me and to be honest, football success = money. Very few exceptions where having no money still warrants successful teams.
Ricey Posted 2 February 2011 Author Posted 2 February 2011 In relation to Naughton's wages, i presume (as we got the cash) we are paying his wages fully, not partly? I think he's on high wages considering he used to play for the under 21's and the fact that several Premier clubs wanted him in the past (ie, Villa and Sunderland were interested in him last Summer) High wages for his age, possibly, but he's still only young and has little top-level experience so I doubt he's on more than £15k a week.
FosseFox Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 I agree that we don't have an expensive team but as soon as you come into money, other teams will automatically hate you. The same happens to QPR, people are jealous as they'd love cash at their club.
Ford Super Sunday Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Just on Yuki Abe, I cannot for the life of me remember where I read it at the moment, but they had the fee we (allegedly) paid for him in yen, which, when translated to £, came to £2.7m Always going to be conjecture on his fee though
Jacnah Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 TBH i dont care if we buy promotion as long as we get it :sge: in sven we trust This ....all it represents is that other people in this league are recognising that a) we are a good footballing team b) we have good players and C) we are going to push for promotion. The more i hear other people saying it the happier i'll be...jealousy...
hairy Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Just listened to the post match interview with Micky Adams from last night and he stated that Leicester had "...spent an absolute fortune on assembling their squad". I have a lot of respect for Adams, but that comment is incorrect if you look at the team that started last night: Weale - Free Van Aanholt - Loan Mee - Loan Bamba - £250k Naughton - Loan Abe - Undisclosed, thought to be nominal King- Youth Wellens - £1m Vassell - Free Dyer - Free Yakubu - Loan Granted Yakubu is an expensive loan, but if you look at those stats we are probably one of the least expensively assembled teams in the league. You forget the most expensive. Sven £1.9m (?) over two years
Guest Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Mickey Adams has a brain the size of a pea I love a good Master Fox contribution to a thread
dave_the_fox Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Spurs DID get a loan fee for Naughton, because we paid more of a fee than QPR were going to. Or if i dont remember right that could have been wage %
Joe. Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 You forget the most expensive. Sven £1.9m (?) over two years And Davies would have cost us a little bit while he was here too. But the general point of the thread is right, we have the financial muscle to outdo virtually every team in this division now but we haven't flexed it too much just yet.
Socks Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 he wouldn't (or anyone else for that matter) be saying it if the boot was on the other foot jealousy thats all c0ck
Houdini Logic Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Is there such a thing as buying promotion? Look at what Hollway achieved on a tight budget with Blackpool and compare that to what happened to Leicester when he was allowed to waste money on a large number of players
cc_star Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 It is a valid point raised by Mickey, but as the original post points out its not entirely truthful. However, how many clubs could afford such promising youngsters as Naughton, Van Aanholt, Mee at the same time? and then of course when you add in Yakubu it blows the division out the water. But I do agree that being linked with Beckham, Owen, Heskey, Santa Cruz & Henry means our reputation is exaggerated
Edmund Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Micky is spot on. I read somewhere we payed over a million just to bring Naughton in on loan. Then theirs his wages. The fact is we've easily spent more than any club in this division this season.
davieG Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 Micky is spot on. I read somewhere we payed over a million just to bring Naughton in on loan. Then theirs his wages. The fact is we've easily spent more than any club in this division this season. The only 'fact' is we don't know how much has been spent, reading something somewhere doesn't make it a fact. Have we spent more than Cardiff or QPR, do you know that for a fact, do you know what all their players earn and how much they cost?
nickelbyfox Posted 2 February 2011 Posted 2 February 2011 The only 'fact' is we don't know how much has been spent, reading something somewhere doesn't make it a fact. Have we spent more than Cardiff or QPR, do you know that for a fact, do you know what all their players earn and how much they cost? Completely agree, Ipswich and Middlesbrough have also spent a decent amount, Kris Boyd and Scott Mcdonald alone cost the latter 4.5 million. Bellamy for Cardiff must have been on more than Yakubu and if not was there on loan for the season! Don't see how people cant make these accusations, whats it based on? What facts?Micky Adams having a moan after he was brought in to help a club like Sheff Utd and hasn't won a game yet! Seems like a poor excuse tbh
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