breadandcheese Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Interesting that the Americans didn't tell the Pakistani Army they were going to raid the compound. It's certainly a worry that the Pakistani Intelligence Services are not to be trusted and raises some big questions.
Babylon Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 "There has been no confirmation that it is Bin Laden's body" So, why did they announce his death then? They are talking about that image, not that the US haven't identified him.
Austin Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Obama bags Osama. Obama's going to bag 4 more years. Somethings definitely not right ..
Guest Bilo Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Good news, though I thought he'd been dead for years personally and was quite surprised when it was announced he was killed yesterday rather than his body being found. It's great news for the families of all those killed in 9/11 as it gives closure and justice, albeit rough justice, but will it change anything militarily? Sadly not. It's the killing of a figurehead and nothing more, perhaps even al-Qaeda itself is not a major issue any more after years of bombing. There have been so many splinter groups from it that in actual fact bin Laden hasn't been all that important in the world of Islamic extremism for years as anything other than a name. So hate to be a buzzkill but I daresay there'll be a new Goldstein (to all you Orwell fans) before long.
breadandcheese Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 These. At the end of the day, this is just revenge. The killing of a figurehead is the creation of a martyr. Like Prussian say, surely much better to have taken him alive? As for him being in Pakistan... two ways I'm thinking of it. Either he was in cahoots with Pakistani authority, which is scary as they're a nuclear power, or in a more favourable light for Pakistan, they lured him out of hiding with promises, into a US trap. Who really knows. I disagree. It is not revenge, it is a liquidation. Bin Laden is at the very least a figurehead, at worst a dangerous individual involved in the planning of mass murder. He is therefore a major asset to Islamist terrorist groups, so it is important to take him out, as well as the other senior members in the organisation. It is a success that he has been killed and will equally be a success when they kill Zawahri (if he is the number 2 in the group). Eventually, if they manage to take out the leadership of the organisation, it will become a far less effective terrorist organisation. With regards taking him alive, I'm sure that it would have been virtually impossible to take him alive. This is somebody who has sworn to be a martyr. Either way, it's a clever move to bury his body at sea so there can be no shrine or proper grave for him. If there are any reprisals for his death, these are plans that would have likely been put in place years ago by Al-Qaeda as the death of Bin Laden is something that could easily be foreseen and prepared for. I'm sure/hopeful that security services in Europe and America will be well prepared.
Mack Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 I dont believe for a minute they buried his whole body at sea. They either cut off a digit tossed that into the sea and kept the rest for examination or there is no body. Nothing would surprise me, after all, under the guise of "Protecting the population of Libya" we are attacking and killing Gadaffi's family amongst other wrongdoings.
ACF Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 The Hitler thing has been my Facebook status for the last 5 hours, PLAGIARISM.
breadandcheese Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 I dont believe for a minute they buried his whole body at sea. They either cut off a digit tossed that into the sea and kept the rest for examination or there is no body. Nothing would surprise me, after all, under the guise of "Protecting the population of Libya" we are attacking and killing Gadaffi's family amongst other wrongdoings. Why would they want to keep his body? It is easy to take a little bit of DNA for varification by taking a piece of hair, so his body is not needed, nor are we in the West so bloodthirsty that we wish to keep his body and make a little musuem. In fact, I don't know any people on Earth that are so bloodthirsty that they'd want to keep a body as a trophy. Closest I can get to is Predator where he used to rip out their skull and spine to make a necklace. It is of no benefit to keep his body or put it somewhere identifiable as it creates a shrine. Unless Bin Laden is some supernatural being, I'm pretty sure he had a body. Even Jesus had a body. Libya was stupid to get involved in, but we shouldn't try and link the two.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Took them ten years to find him? What was he doing in Pakistan - apparently in Abbottabad, a city that features the Pakistani military academy? Why was he "accidentally" killed and not caught, questioned and put to trial?I'm sure he could've told us all a many an interesting story about the allied secret services... and maybe al-Qaeda, too. After all the previous false reports of his death, the involvement of doubles used to fool the Americans and their allies, how can you be sure it's him? Besides, how's that going to help the US in Afghanistan? The war will continue, and probably even fiercer than ever. There's so many Muslim extremist nutjobs that I doubt they'll have a hard time finding a suitable replacement. (Sorry for being so negative) Fair Chance he was always going to go down fighting kill or be killed.
zubi Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Shame on the Americans for celebrating the death of a former CIA operative
Asha Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Dragons' Den's Peter Jones@dragonjones "One small step in the crucial war against terrorism, one giant leap for Obama. America's finest hour. World peace is nigh. #obamaisdead From Peter Jones' twitter. Rather unfortunate error there behind the hash.
AjcW Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Who are they going to blame everything on now??????...... ..... Ricardo
Spencer Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-photo-of-al-qaeda-leader-s-body-115875-23101910/ Theres a pictured of his supposed dead body. http://twitpic.com/4sa55u Fake.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Who are they going to blame everything on now??????...... ..... Ricardo If Ricardo was on the case Osama would of slip thru his grasp
Callabinho Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 why discard his body so quickly? sure it would need full government tests to prove it is him?
Liamlcfc1 Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 why discard his body so quickly? sure it would need full government tests to prove it is him? Muslims believe that the body should be berried in 24h
zubi Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Muslims believe that the body should be berried in 24h True But the Americans have the body not his family.
Callabinho Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Muslims believe that the body should be berried in 24h Maybe so, but if true, bin laden was the most wanted man possibly in the world so the government would surely undergo all protocols to ensure it is him? hmmm
zubi Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Think of it what you will, but something doesn't seem right in the world today.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Why do America always do this - could they have not given the world enough conclusive evidence on this to ensure there's not yet another consiperacy theory? I haven't seen many news reports, but how many eye witness / local resident reports on this have there been? It's already tagged on google maps If the google map details above are to be believed, it looks a fairly built up area, so you would have thought a number of people would have sensed something out of the oridnary going on - and considering the position of the Pakistani Milatary Accademy, you would also have thought they would have got wind of something going on and approached the scene as well? And to be honest, regardless of whether he is dead or alive, he has achived his goal in that he has put claims on attroicities for his cause and that others who sympathise with his views can look to follow his lead and create their own attroicities in the name of Osama and the Taliban.
Steven Posted 2 May 2011 Posted 2 May 2011 Took them ten years to find him? What was he doing in Pakistan - apparently in Abbottabad, a city that features the Pakistani military academy? Why was he "accidentally" killed and not caught, questioned and put to trial? I'm sure he could've told us all a many an interesting story about the allied secret services... and maybe al-Qaeda, too. After all the previous false reports of his death, the involvement of doubles used to fool the Americans and their allies, how can you be sure it's him? Besides, how's that going to help the US in Afghanistan? The war will continue, and probably even fiercer than ever. There's so many Muslim extremist nutjobs that I doubt they'll have a hard time finding a suitable replacement. (Sorry for being so negative) Quite. Watch now for a false flag operation in the US or Europe to justify WWIII. Cf Operation Northwoods. Killed, identified and buried all in twenty four hours with no pictures, no real verification. It all stinks to high heaven.
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