FIFA

[davieG]

Suspended Fifa vice-president Jack Warner has made public an e-mail that claims Mohamed Bin Hammam "bought" the 2022 World Cup finals for Qatar.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13592684.stm

[shen]

Suspended Fifa vice-president Jack Warner has made public an e-mail that claims Mohamed Bin Hammam "bought" the 2022 World Cup finals for Qatar.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13592684.stm

Same link that Benji posted. It's all kicking off now. Fingers being pointed in every direction.

[MC Prussian]

FIFA Board=Laughable bunch of overpaid, lazy and corrupt old farts.

They're all as bad as the other: Blatter, Valcke, Bin Hammam, Warner, etc. - clinging onto power, not wanting to let go.

You look at Blatter, who displays all the wrong qualities of a greedy manager. Granddad is 75, yet still feels fit to reign for a fourth time.

It's about time they introduced an age limit.

Then again, this is the FIFA.

The biggest joke, however, is the fact that the organisation itself does hardly pay any taxes (slightly more than 4% on their net profit; that after a total revenue of almost 800 million Euro)!!!

Meanwhile, independent Australian senator Nick Xenophon has demanded that Fifa refunds the Aus$45.6m (£29.6m) they spent on their unsuccessful bid to host the 2022 World Cup.

Xenophon said: "It appears corrupt and highly questionable behaviour goes to the core of Fifa.

"Australia spent almost $46m on a bid we were never in the running for.

"Now we hear that bribes may have been made to fix the result for who will head up Fifa."

Well, err, good luck with that.

[The Year Of The Fox]

I'm glad all sorts of accusations are emerging.

Blatters one man running for president reminds me of mugabe, sadaam and gadaffi.

[Benji]

Australian senator Nick Xenophon

What a great name for an Australian senate. I wonder if he has anything to do with immigration policies.

[Mack]

The fat Yank Santa lookalike is employed by Blatter.

He was told to smear Bin Hammam by Blatter to ensure a non opposed path to another 4 years as President.

In the process of smearing Bin Hammam Jack Warner has also been stitched up.

He now has the hump and is pulling out all the stops to bring down Blatter in revenge.

The bottom line is they are all bent, and their little cozy club has been smashed wide open mainly by their own greed.

The English FA missed a huge trick when they chose to abstain from the presidential vote. Had they rather than abstaining decided to enter their own candidate for the Presidency right now the path to the job would be highly achievable. Abstaining just makes us look like we have the hump, which we do, but does not show we are willing to do anything to change the situation.

Expect Blatter to be elected on Wednesday and for his new enemies to throw as much shit at him as possible in an attempt to take him down with them.

Of course the big loser in all this is football and it's fans.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Exactly. I know it sounds daft, because FIFA itself has little bearing on LCFC and -a bit more of a bearing- on England, but it wasn't until it was pointed out on the radio last night, that it is us the fanswho are funding these bastards' nest eggs

[gazfox9]

The whole organisation are an utter disgrace. I am glad, however that Jack Warner looks to have got his commupance. I feel he more than any other member of FIFA was responsible for Englands failure to land the world cup, having 'promised' votes before changing his mind (I have no idea why ££££££). Unfortunately though, very little will probably change, a couple will be kicked out, saddled with all the blame and good old Sepp Blatter will continue with another four years of spouting bullsh1t whilst refusing point blank to experiment anything that might actually improve the game.

[Jordan]

The fat Yank Santa lookalike is employed by Blatter.

He was told to smear Bin Hammam by Blatter to ensure a non opposed path to another 4 years as President.

In the process of smearing Bin Hammam Jack Warner has also been stitched up.

He now has the hump and is pulling out all the stops to bring down Blatter in revenge.

The bottom line is they are all bent, and their little cozy club has been smashed wide open mainly by their own greed.

Jack Warner threw the USSF's 2022 World Cup bid under the bus.

Also, the whole atmosphere around the recent CONCACAF congress--in which the upcoming FIFA Gen. Sec. election would be an important matter--was extremely shady. There was an interesting post in the Reuters soccer blog about that, which is a good read for anybody that's unfamiliar with the Cali Cartel-like--or FIFA-like, for that matter--business practices of CONCACAF.

Chuck Blazer, the former Warner protégé, is no angel. Everybody's wheels get greased whenever anything gets voted on in FIFA and Blazer, Sunil Gulati and the USSF were made to look embarrassed because they didn't play the game as well as anyone else. If Sepp Blatter is "financing" Blazer's mission then I'm not surprised at all, but Blatter is risking a potential backlash of which we're starting to see (Warner's revelation of the Valcke email confirming alleging that the 2022 bid was "bought" is a kamikaze attack).

The English FA missed a huge trick when they chose to abstain from the presidential vote. Had they rather than abstaining decided to enter their own candidate for the Presidency right now the path to the job would be highly achievable. Abstaining just makes us look like we have the hump, which we do, but does not show we are willing to do anything to change the situation.

Expect Blatter to be elected on Wednesday and for his new enemies to throw as much shit at him as possible in an attempt to take him down with them.

Of course the big loser in all this is football and it's fans.

An England bid would have gotten lukewarm support and created massive controversy.

Face it: the smaller countries' respective football federation executives need Blatters and bin Hammans to give them money to build stadiums, soccer academies and buy yachts.

Nothing will change unless Blatter and FIFA are found guilty of something in some sort of court of law.

[BlueSi13]

So let me get this straight, England were "punished" and humiliated in our sound World Cup bid due to the "wild and unfounded accusations" of the British media (FIFA equated English and British as the same thing in the process), but now it looks like these accusations were true all along, and in fact the situation may be far worse than anybody had previously imagined.

Why the English, Australian, American, Spanish, Portuguese, Netherlands, and Belgian FA's don't just bugger off and create their own association in protest at the bidding process for the last two World Cups is beyond me.

[Mack]

Jack Warner threw the USSF's 2022 World Cup bid under the bus.

Also, the whole atmosphere around the recent CONCACAF congress--in which the upcoming FIFA Gen. Sec. election would be an important matter--was extremely shady. There was an interesting post in the Reuters soccer blog about that, which is a good read for anybody that's unfamiliar with the Cali Cartel-like--or FIFA-like, for that matter--business practices of CONCACAF.

Chuck Blazer, the former Warner protégé, is no angel. Everybody's wheels get greased whenever anything gets voted on in FIFA and Blazer, Sunil Gulati and the USSF were made to look embarrassed because they didn't play the game as well as anyone else. If Sepp Blatter is "financing" Blazer's mission then I'm not surprised at all, but Blatter is risking a potential backlash of which we're starting to see (Warner's revelation of the Valcke email confirming alleging that the 2022 bid was "bought" is a kamikaze attack).

An England bid would have gotten lukewarm support and created massive controversy.

Face it: the smaller countries' respective football federation executives need Blatters and bin Hammans to give them money to build stadiums, soccer academies and buy yachts.

Nothing will change unless Blatter and FIFA are found guilty of something in some sort of court of law.

These things are all about timing.

Right now what this FIFA Presidential election needs is an opponent to Blatter that cant be shot down in flames by Blatter's agents based on previous dodgy dealings.

The FA were the only major Football body expressing any discontent publicly with the FA and Blatter, and could have run a candidate who's position would have strengthened after the weekends events.

Blatter is on a belligerent crusade to continue as FIFA President no matter what, whilst and English candidate may not have won the election even if Blatter does this matter will be far from over.

FIFA is set to implode and only those that are pro active now will be in a good position to pick up the pieces after the storm ends.

[Guest Bilo]

All it'd take is for the countries who lost out to Qatar to boycott the 2022 World Cup.

That'd mean no England, Spain, Holland, USA or Australia. All of which are major players in the world game and all of whom would be sorely missed. Sporting boycotts can seriously undermine the success of a major sporting event, take the Moscow Olympics of 1980 which were boycotted because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan for example. A US led boycott led to only 80 nations bothering to attend compared to 201 in Athens 2004. It completely undermined the Games and it may be time for a similar course of action against FIFA.

Qatar are hosting a World Cup they do not deserve to be hosting and it's time the world did something about it.

[ozleicester]

What a great name for an Australian senate. I wonder if he has anything to do with immigration policies.

A very interesting man, was elected to local/state government on a "no pokies' (poker machines/one armed bandits) campaign. The Soth Aust government now gets nearl 15% of its revenue from taxing poker machines and literally billions of $ are ploughed through these machines. mr xenophon did some hilarious stunts which saw him elected but...he has had no impact on the machines. he then went on to run in federal politics on a similar basis, with a little more of a green edge. He is now a senator but makes almost no impact as an independant.

But it is an interesting example of how the Alternative Vote (remember that ) can be used.

[gazfox9]

What a surprise, FIFA have nothing to answer to accorrding to mr Blatter. Brushed nicely under the carpet.

[Ozwin]

All it'd take is for the countries who lost out to Qatar to boycott the 2022 World Cup.

That'd mean no England, Spain, Holland, USA or Australia. All of which are major players in the world game and all of whom would be sorely missed. Sporting boycotts can seriously undermine the success of a major sporting event, take the Moscow Olympics of 1980 which were boycotted because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan for example. A US led boycott led to only 80 nations bothering to attend compared to 201 in Athens 2004. It completely undermined the Games and it may be time for a similar course of action against FIFA.

Qatar are hosting a World Cup they do not deserve to be hosting and it's time the world did something about it.

I would love it if we did that but there's no chance really.

The annoying thing about all of this is that the actual football has been forgotten. It's all about a bunch of overweight, money grabbing, toss rags who have basically tarnished the greatest sport of all for what? Another payday? ****ing currupt scum the lot of them.

FIFA, where being fair, honest and genuinely respectful of the sport goes against you. We all knew Qatar getting the World Cup sketchy so there's no suprises there at all. I'm just glad it's blown up in their faces and we might see change at last, **** Blatter, **** them all.

[Jordan]

I'm curious to know who came up with the idea to good today's sham of a press conference, believing it would go over well.

[Guest ttfn]

That press conference was a farce.

I'm not sure if I'm really angry or totally resigned about the FIFA farce. Probably both. Either way it's too much effort to get angry about it. They're all massive bell ends.

[I am Rod Hull]

Nothing will change.. they`ve all got it wrapped up..

Tossers, every last one of them..

[shen]

That press conference was a farce.

I'm not sure if I'm really angry or totally resigned about the FIFA farce. Probably both. Either way it's too much effort to get angry about it. They're all massive bell ends.

His leaving and coming back was comical

[The Year Of The Fox]

TTFN- That sums up my feelings exactly.

The problem is if we (whether I mean the fans of the FA I don't know) sit back and adopt that attitude things will never change.

Do the fans have power over FIFA? Probably not, bar voting with our feet.

I'm a massive England fan, but right now I'd be happy if the FA withdrew from the 2014 qualifiers (we're not gonna win the next world cup anyway!) In the hope that other countries and their footballing bodies would follow suite. It'd be at a huge risk as theifa (see what I done there?!) Would never accept us back

[The Year Of The Fox]

edit *whether I mean the fans OR the FA

[AjcW]

Chuck Blazer:

Fired

Not Fired

Definitely Fired

Very Very Fired.

Apparently this is a fair summary of events from Midnight this morning to the present time.

.

[Tom17LCFC]

TTFN- That sums up my feelings exactly.

The problem is if we (whether I mean the fans of the FA I don't know) sit back and adopt that attitude things will never change.

Do the fans have power over FIFA? Probably not, bar voting with our feet.

I'm a massive England fan, but right now I'd be happy if the FA withdrew from the 2014 qualifiers (we're not gonna win the next world cup anyway!) In the hope that other countries and their footballing bodies would follow suite. It'd be at a huge risk as theifa (see what I done there?!) Would never accept us back

:laugh:

I've thought that for a while now though, whether or not it'd be worth it to pull out of FIFA completely. As much as I love England, I don't look forward to the games as much as I used to. Whether that's down to the players in the current squad or the fact that i'm completely disillusioned with FIFA I don't know. The fact that it's only our FA and the SFA that abstained suggests that we'd probably be on our own by breaking away. I'd love to see all major nations give FIFA the 2 fingers and form a breakaway organisation, but the majority of football associations seem happy to have Blatter and his weasels controlling everything. Just can't believe how corrupt it all is.

[Winchester]

I've been one to criticise The FA over the years for being useless and incompetent. It's great to see them finally doing something. Didn't much care for some of the responses from other FA's, notably the Argentine comments. Maybe England is just making a fuss coz we're bitter over the World Cup bid - but that doesn't change the fact that FIFA is corrupt, needs a major overhaul, and Blatter has proven himself to NOT be the person for the job.

FIFA is absolutely rubbish. What exactly have they accomplished on behalf of football in the last 20 years? And to think they're a 'charity' and don't pay taxes. ridiculous.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

Wonder who is more corrupt FIFA or the Olympic commitee