marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 If the Indians claim this wicket it will be a disgrace!!!
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 They have!!! Absolutely disgusting. A sad, sad moment for sportsmanship and Indian cricket.
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 Awful sportmanship from India there. Couldn't get him out fairly so they've resorted to that. Could you imagine the uproar if we did that to them.
leicesterisme Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 Hopefully we come out like raging bulls and rip into their bowling attack and then let our bowling do the talking and take a 2-0 series lead.
ScouseFox Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 What's just happened? I nipped out to the shop and there's some sort of controversial "disgrace" to take Bell's wicket?
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 Well, last ball before tea, Bell clips it to the boundary, fielder gives chase and there's confusion over whether it's hit the boundary. Fielder stops giving the indication it has, throws the back. Meanwhile, Bell has wandered down the wicket heading off for tea, the ball reaches Dhoni who flicks it to a fielder stood by the stumps, he whips off the bails and they appeal. Goes to third umpire and Bell given out.
Dylan Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 A lot of people saying its awful and disgraceful? Ian Bell shouldn't be making the decision himself that the ball's over and its Tea... he should be playing to the umpire's signal, and he never called four, dead ball, tea at any stage during the incident. And as Nasser said, can you honestly say England wouldn't have done the same? Take a look at Bell's carelessness first.
Dylan Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 Well, last ball before tea, Bell clips it to the boundary, fielder gives chase and there's confusion over whether it's hit the boundary. Fielder stops giving the indication it has, throws the back. Meanwhile, Bell has wandered down the wicket heading off for tea, the ball reaches Dhoni who flicks it to a fielder stood by the stumps, he whips off the bails and they appeal. Goes to third umpire and Bell given out. I didn't see Kumar signal it was a four? And certainly not the man who matters- the umpire.
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 A lot of people saying its awful and disgraceful? Ian Bell shouldn't be making the decision himself that the ball's over and its Tea... he should be playing to the umpire's signal, and he never called four, dead ball, tea at any stage during the incident. And as Nasser said, can you honestly say England wouldn't have done the same? Take a look at Bell's carelessness first. But generally speaking you take the word of the nearest fielder, who gave every indication that he'd touched the boundary whilst attempting to field to ball.
Brown Fox Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 That was not a disgrace at all. Ian Bell was just very naive. Just because it's last ball before tea doesn't mean you change the rules. The ball was thrown back and he stumped him. Over was not called so what was he doing walking off?
RowlattsFox Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 The fielder looked as though he gave it a four, even though it wasn't which probably gave Bell the impression it was finished. Still schoolboy stuff from Bell.
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 I didn't see Kumar signal it was a four? And certainly not the man who matters- the umpire. His body language, the way he stopped and casually threw the ball back didn't suggest he was desperate to stop another run being taken. I would be massively embarrassed if we'd done that.
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 Well done Dhoni!!! Very sporting and the correct thing to do.
I am Rod Hull Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 They`ve withdrawn the appeal.. India That "IS" cricket..
Dylan Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 His body language, the way he stopped and casually threw the ball back didn't suggest he was desperate to stop another run being taken. I would be massively embarrassed if we'd done that. But did he give the four hand-signal, no? And did the umpires- who matter- give the signal? I'm sorry, but this was Bell's mistake, and Dhoni has given into the pressure and let him off?! I'm sorry, but this was Bell's mistake, and Dhoni has given into the pressure and let him off?!
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 But did he give the four hand-signal, no? And did the umpires- who matter- give the signal? I'm sorry, but this was Bell's mistake, and Dhoni has given into the pressure and let him off?! I'm sorry, but this was Bell's mistake, and Dhoni has given into the pressure and let him off?! No, but every time something similar happens does the fielder give the hand signal? no! Anyway, the correct decision has been reached. EDIT - spelling
Dylan Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 No, but every time something similar happens does the fielder give the hand signal? no! Anyway, the correct decision has been reached. EDIT - spelling Strongly disagreed, if you know about the rules of cricket, the ball is not dead so its live. And even if the fielder THINKS it's four, does it mean it is? His body language suggests it may have, but he didn't say it was eg, signal, nod etc.
Brown Fox Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 No, but every time something similar happens does the fielder give the hand signal? no! Anyway, the correct decision has been reached. EDIT - spelling Yeah but did the umpire say 4? No? So you don't go on body language? The correct decision has not been met. Letter of the law he's out.
Dylan Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 Well done India, very sporting. If in a football match, a player takes a quick free kick and scores, is that too unsportsman and against the spirit of the game of football as the opposition players weren't ready, or is it clever play from the attackers (India) and sloppiness from the defence (England)?
marko Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 Strongly disagreed, if you know about the rules of cricket, the ball is not dead so its live. And even if the fielder THINKS it's four, does it mean it is? His body language suggests it may have, but he didn't say it was eg, signal, nod etc. I'm more than aware of the rules thank you. Are you aware of law 42 which states that the game should be played within the spirit and tradition of the game? Do you believe that upholding that appeal would be in the spirit of the game? If you do i'm glad I don't play sport with you. Put the shoe on the other foot and it's Tendulkar on 99* and we did that. Would still maintain the stance? Yeah but did the umpire say 4? No? So you don't go on body language? The correct decision has not been met. Letter of the law he's out. As I said playing in the spirit and tradition is also incorporated in to the laws of cricket, so in that respect I believe the correct decision has been made.
LCFC1993 Posted 31 July 2011 Posted 31 July 2011 If in a football match, a player takes a quick free kick and scores, is that too unsportsman and against the spirit of the game of football as the opposition players weren't ready, or is it clever play from the attackers (India) and sloppiness from the defence (England)? It was still a sporting thing to do. They would be well within their rights to uphold the appeal, but they didn't, and should be congratulated for that.
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