Bellend Sebastian Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 Stop trying to spoil the lefties' fun, you lot. When it's revealed that The Guardian were hacking Jade Goody's voicemails then you can have your turn
Houdini Logic Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 Bull cock, I read news from BBC everydays in particular the south asia section, they aren't as bad as NOTW but they are still unscrupilious and driven by political agenda, eg they will publish stupid stories about a man marrying a goat yet an innocent man is in prison in India, has been sentence to death unjustly, because he is a freedom fighter. Over 50,000 people have protest outside of India, yet not a pip squeek....why, because it would tarnish India's image, India have one of the worst human rights record, yet the BBC will never present it as such, because of the Indian rupeeeeeee, it's investment means alot more in britain then the truth!!! By the way, the guys name Professor Davinderpal Singh Bhullar!! You're right and there is the more than occasional nonsense about a goat, but at least they didn't have to rip into the personal life of relatively harmless people (that's what I mean by public interest - invading the lives of celebrities/peoples children/etc) to get that story. For what it's worth I couldn't find the any information on the guy you're talking about on any news agency around the world other than the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13571576
Houdini Logic Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 You cannot know that for sure. That's why I pray every night to the flying spaghetti monster
l444ry Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 Nice to see that Labour have forced the government to support the BskyB motion that " This House believes that it is in the public interest for Rupert Murdoch and News Corporation to withdraw their bid for BSkyB. The Tories clearly realised they would be caught on the wrong side of public opinion on the issue and relented. Maybe a Vote of No Confidence is also needed regarding David Cameron. Better still, Vince Cable should demand that David Cameron hands in his resignation
FoxyPV Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 Nice to see that Labour have forced the government to support the BskyB motion that " This House believes that it is in the public interest for Rupert Murdoch and News Corporation to withdraw their bid for BSkyB. The Tories clearly realised they would be caught on the wrong side of public opinion on the issue and relented. Maybe a Vote of No Confidence is also needed regarding David Cameron. Better still, Vince Cable should demand that David Cameron hands in his resignation vince cable is at fault here for allowing the terms of the appeal to be based on their rejection first time round rather than making Bskyb lodge another full application.
Guest Bilo Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 vince cable is at fault here for allowing the terms of the appeal to be based on their rejection first time round rather than making Bskyb lodge another full application. Blasphemy! Everything, and I do mean everything, is David Cameron's fault.
FoxyPV Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 Blasphemy! Everything, and I do mean everything, is David Cameron's fault. It still is partially his fault but mainly Cable's
Guest Bilo Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 It still is partially his fault but mainly Cable's Was it really only 18 months ago that Cable was loved? Say one thing about Cable though, he was right that Murdoch's opponents would get their way on the BSkyB issue. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12053656 "I am picking my fights, some of which you may have seen, some of which you may haven't seen. "And I don't know if you have been following what has been happening with the Murdoch press, where I have declared war on Mr Murdoch and I think we are going to win."
accessory Posted 12 July 2011 Author Posted 12 July 2011 Nice to see that Labour have forced the government to support the BskyB motion that " This House believes that it is in the public interest for Rupert Murdoch and News Corporation to withdraw their bid for BSkyB. The Tories clearly realised they would be caught on the wrong side of public opinion on the issue and relented. Maybe a Vote of No Confidence is also needed regarding David Cameron. Better still, Vince Cable should demand that David Cameron hands in his resignation The "smoking gun", irredeemably implicating Cameron in this mess, has yet to emerge. Indeed it may not do so for some time.. But Miliband has comprehensively owned him for the past week, and is no doubt looking forward to doing so tomorrow.
Dr The Singh Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 You're right and there is the more than occasional nonsense about a goat, but at least they didn't have to rip into the personal life of relatively harmless people (that's what I mean by public interest - invading the lives of celebrities/peoples children/etc) to get that story. For what it's worth I couldn't find the any information on the guy you're talking about on any news agency around the world other than the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk...h-asia-13571576 Your having a giraffe mate, this confirms exactly what I meant, BBC should never have bothered that piece of journalism is load of crap, typical of the BBC the story is massive so they believe they must cover it, but due to political leverage they dilute the story to a non event The BBC should be ashamed of themselves, there not talking about the guy, thay mention nothing about the circumstance, disgusting!!!
l444ry Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 vince cable is at fault here for allowing the terms of the appeal to be based on their rejection first time round rather than making Bskyb lodge another full application. Can't personally see how Vince Fable can be responsible for Cameron's lack of judgement or NI's gutter tactics to sell it's rags either!
FoxyPV Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 Can't personally see how Vince Fable can be responsible for Cameron's lack of judgement or NI's gutter tactics to sell it's rags either! He's not, but he is responsible for the likelihood that the BSkyB bid will go through due to the terms I stated in the last post. NI could bring the govt to court and win if the terms of the appeal are changed. I agree with you in regards to Cameron and NI.
Jon the Hat Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 I think the impact of this on one party or another is overstated. Both sides know damn well they have been way too cosy with the media to come out of this smelling of roses - this is clear from the response of both Labour and the Government. Easy for Ed to look like he is on top because he doesn't have to do anything useful, just talk.
Jon the Hat Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 Nice to see that Labour have forced the government to support the BskyB motion that " This House believes that it is in the public interest for Rupert Murdoch and News Corporation to withdraw their bid for BSkyB. The Tories clearly realised they would be caught on the wrong side of public opinion on the issue and relented. Maybe a Vote of No Confidence is also needed regarding David Cameron. Better still, Vince Cable should demand that David Cameron hands in his resignation Just so we are clear, you are in favour of the current Labour leadership? New Labour is dead etc? Back to the party you want to see or at least a move in the right direction?
Guest Bilo Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 Billy Bragg: Liverpool was right all along. Murdoch considers nuclear option - selling News International. Who would take News International? Some great stuff in the Guardian about this.
l444ry Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 Just so we are clear, you are in favour of the current Labour leadership? New Labour is dead etc? Back to the party you want to see or at least a move in the right direction? Miliband wasn't my preferred choice and has, until now, been a poor leader in my judgement. He's had a sitting duck in front of him running the worst government I can remember and let him/them get away with murder. Evidence of him being scared of the media response if he pushes too hard perhaps. The events of this week have shown him in a better light and hopefully he can nail that tosspot Cameron now that he is a wounded animal.
accessory Posted 13 July 2011 Author Posted 13 July 2011 As if the last ten days weren't bad enough for Murdoch, the worst could be yet to come. Did 9/11 victims have their phones hacked? The US media is taking an interest in this and if they unearth any evidence suggesting the Sun/NotW were involved in that, all hell would break loose. Murdoch may even be forced to give up Fox News..
l444ry Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 The "smoking gun", irredeemably implicating Cameron in this mess, has yet to emerge. Indeed it may not do so for some time.. But Miliband has comprehensively owned him for the past week, and is no doubt looking forward to doing so tomorrow. Apparently there are rumours emerging that there is a "smoking gun" relating to Coulson, and when the emails surface and a certain person involved is questioned under oath Cameron is fooked. Might explain Miliband's strategy thus far.
accessory Posted 13 July 2011 Author Posted 13 July 2011 That material, assuming it still exists, may emerge next week, or in six months' time. Miliband has raised his game dramatically since this scandal broke. But he knows that unless a killer blow is landed, Cameron and Murdoch, together with some rogue elements in the police, could still collude to destroy him.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 I think the impact of this on one party or another is overstated. Both sides know damn well they have been way too cosy with the media to come out of this smelling of roses - this is clear from the response of both Labour and the Government. Easy for Ed to look like he is on top because he doesn't have to do anything useful, just talk. Yes, but Cameron has helped Ed a bit by first of all getting himself in a tricky position with the hiring of Mr Coulson (it just seems plain stupid to have taken the risk here), then by being slow to act (even Clegg was piping up before Cameron) and by getting the wrong Torries up in various media engagements talking absolute tosh!
Guest Bilo Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 If Miliband had a bit more charisma he could clean up with Cameron clearly having made some huge errors of judgement in hiring Andy Coulson and bring so close to Murdoch. The problem is that Labour enjoyed near unconditional support from the same people between 1997 and 2009, including their support for the most right-wing administration in recent US history, the War on Terror and the erosion of civil rights. Nobody in Westminster can claim the moral high ground, so perhaps this is another reason why Miliband appears to be pulling his punches on Cameron. Whatever happens though, the press area of the Murdoch empire is imploding around his ears. There's already talk of consortia buying his NI titles, and apparently the NOTW is a key target to be relaunched under its pre Murdoch masthead. Let's not forget that paper had a century of tradition before Murdoch decided to come in and rape British journalism.
lavrentis Posted 13 July 2011 Posted 13 July 2011 We're everywhere these days. Everywhere but the Championship.
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