Nationwider Posted 8 July 2011 Posted 8 July 2011 And one more thing - why does no one have the honour to do the right thing and resign any more? In any criminal hierarchy, the lowest layers of the hierarchy are the most exposed and the most expendable. Their loss doesn't necessarily affect the rest of the group. If you lose one of the main players further up, then the whole group is potentially exposed. The last thing Murdoch would want is to accept Brooks' resignation and for her to be on the outside of the News Corp net. I would imagine they all need each other at the moment. The whole thing is absolutely fúcking glorious. Coulson found dead in a car park with an axe through his head by the end of next weekend, anyone?
21st Century Fox Posted 8 July 2011 Posted 8 July 2011 I love how she refers to the whole thing as a Guardian/BBC witch hunt! WOW!... just WOW!
accessory Posted 8 July 2011 Author Posted 8 July 2011 Steve Coogan on Newsnight, owning an ex-NotW hack. Quality TV - the best Coogan has been involved in for long time..
OzFox Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 This bloke McMullen must be exhausted. He's been on just about every UK media outlet the last few days, plus he's getting up early to do live interviews for Australia. Not sure I agree with some of his argument but I admire his tenacity
lavrentis Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Steve Coogan on Newsnight, owning an ex-NotW hack. Quality TV - the best Coogan has been involved in for long time.. "It's absolute BS" with the hand movements :laugh:
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 Sunday mornings won't be the same. NOTW and a cuppa = winning. They've done some good things, but some bad things too.
sdb Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 "It's absolute BS" with the hand movements :laugh: So Partridge! Sunday mornings won't be the same. NOTW and a cuppa = winning. They've done some good things, but some bad things too. Yes you could say that
Haydos Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 That guy never had a leg to stand on and he didn't even seem to have a gameplan. Suicide
Trav Le Bleu Posted 11 July 2011 Posted 11 July 2011 Record sales of NOTW yesterday I believe. I give up.
sdb Posted 11 July 2011 Posted 11 July 2011 Record sales of NOTW yesterday I believe. I give up. I take your point but I think it was more the final edition memento/profits to charity that did it. As a Media Teacher I wanted to get a copy but managed to resist. Had a quick read through though, some of the shit they wrote was unbelievable. Not just the shameless self promotion but the back patting for basically ruining peoples lives over the years and reeking hypocrisy on almost every page. Anyway, glad it's gone and the thought of Murdoch squirming is a dream.
accessory Posted 11 July 2011 Author Posted 11 July 2011 Still way below its heyday (which admittedly was pre-Murdoch) Down to zero next week though.. Latest stories to emerge: NotW paid for Royal Family contact details Other Murdoch papers hacked Gordon Brown's personal accounts and his children's medical records Small wonder that Murdoch is reported to be looking at closing ALL his UK papers, in order to seek complete control of Sky. But could he get away with that?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 11 July 2011 Posted 11 July 2011 Still way below its heyday (which admittedly was pre-Murdoch) Down to zero next week though.. Latest stories to emerge: NotW paid for Royal Family contact details Other Murdoch papers hacked Gordon Brown's personal accounts and his children's medical records Small wonder that Murdoch is reported to be looking at closing ALL his UK papers, in order to seek complete control of Sky. But could he get away with that? Let him - I watch practically no Sky whatsoever, only matches down the pub, which is cheaper than subscribing to it. No wait... would have to get rid of my Sky+ box. I feel dirty.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 The more I read about all this the more I think that doing dodgy stuff at News International has become so endemic that it was just accepted as the norm and that they were so powerful they'd never have to answer to it. Now it's all starting to unravel
Kent Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 i don't get why everyone (in the country) is surprised at what goes on behind closed doors? "They bribed high ranking police officers!? Omg!" Nothing that has came out so far has surprised me.
ozleicester Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 I have posted before about News Ltd and Murdoch specifically. The man has too much power and he must not be allowed to take over sky! Whilst i agree that the BBC are making a meal of this particular event (coz lets be honest, this man has controlled governments, a simple bit of lower end phone tapping is really inconsequential). It will be interesting to watch how the political parties deal with it, they cant afford to bite the hand, that puts them in place. Murdochs is an empire and make no mistake...an evil one, its sole aim is profit and all of its senior managers and editors are indoctrinated into this aim. Murdoch has no direct power over his papers and editors, but he doesnt need it, if you do not work the Murdoch way... you wont make it to a position of power within the regime. Shoot the Fooker... close his papers, destroy his media holdings and hope that we can actually start getting some people into government, who care about building a better society, rather than convincing us that the "well run" banks and corporations are here to help us.
accessory Posted 12 July 2011 Author Posted 12 July 2011 The more I read about all this the more I think that doing dodgy stuff at News International has become so endemic that it was just accepted as the norm and that they were so powerful they'd never have to answer to it. Now it's all starting to unravel There was a web of sleaze and corruption, which enveloped not only the media (extending way beyond News International alone), but the upper reaches of the police and government. All the powers-that-be involved thought they were bombproof. Current events are proving them wrong. This story still has a long way to go..
Bellend Sebastian Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 i don't get why everyone (in the country) is surprised at what goes on behind closed doors? "They bribed high ranking police officers!? Omg!" Nothing that has came out so far has surprised me. Well, the fact that further evidence of them being massive c**** hasn't surprised me in the slightest, cheerily destroying people's lives in the supposed public interest, and in some cases actually hounding vulnerable people to death, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't surprised by the Milly Dowler and dead servicemen's relatives phone hacking - it's pretty much saying that NOTHING is off limits, even stuff that would make your readership wince. I was also a bit surprised to hear that Rebekah Brooks herself contacted Gordon Brown to let him know his son was ill - if that's not a sign of overconfidence, I'd like to see one. I have posted before about News Ltd and Murdoch specifically. The man has too much power and he must not be allowed to take over sky! Whilst i agree that the BBC are making a meal of this particular event (coz lets be honest, this man has controlled governments, a simple bit of lower end phone tapping is really inconsequential). It will be interesting to watch how the political parties deal with it, they cant afford to bite the hand, that puts them in place. Murdochs is an empire and make no mistake...an evil one, its sole aim is profit and all of its senior managers and editors are indoctrinated into this aim. Murdoch has no direct power over his papers and editors, but he doesnt need it, if you do not work the Murdoch way... you wont make it to a position of power within the regime. Shoot the Fooker... close his papers, destroy his media holdings and hope that we can actually start getting some people into government, who care about building a better society, rather than convincing us that the "well run" banks and corporations are here to help us. Well hopefully he won't last much longer anyway, but his sons seem to have inherited his c***ish tendencies. The scale of Murdoch's operations are so vast you almost wonder if there's any point to it all beyond being an exercise in megalomania, it's not like he needs the money
Webbo Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 I wonder how the BBC and the Guardian get their stories. Do they just walk up to someone and ask then if they've been involved in dodgy activities? If someone's trying to keep something secret chances are you can't just look it up in the library. I'd be amazed if every single news outlet in the country hasn't indulged in some sort of (probably illegal)subterfuge to get a story in the past.All this sanctimonious wailing is sickening.
Houdini Logic Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 I wonder how the BBC and the Guardian get their stories. Do they just walk up to someone and ask then if they've been involved in dodgy activities? If someone's trying to keep something secret chances are you can't just look it up in the library. I'd be amazed if every single news outlet in the country hasn't indulged in some sort of (probably illegal)subterfuge to get a story in the past.All this sanctimonious wailing is sickening. Do you believe the BBC and Guardian have at some point hacked the voicemails of murdered people?
Webbo Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 Do you believe the BBC and Guardian have at some point hacked the voicemails of murdered people? I don't know. Do you believe they have never paid people either police or criminals for information?Do you believe they've never paid a private investigator to snoop on someone by fair means or foul? Rupert Murdoch lost any sympathy from me when he sold out the tories in 97. If he went bankrupt tomorrow I couldn't care less.If they stick him in jail then good. It's just the hypocrisy that bothers me.
Houdini Logic Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 I don't know. Do you believe they have never paid people either police or criminals for information?Do you believe they've never paid a private investigator to snoop on someone by fair means or foul? Rupert Murdoch lost any sympathy from me when he sold out the tories in 97. If he went bankrupt tomorrow I couldn't care less.If they stick him in jail then good. It's just the hypocrisy that bothers me. I'm almost certain they would have, but there are two differences for me here - 1, The stories the BBC and papers like the Guardian will 'research' will be more in the public interest - they're not going to be about Jordan's new breast implants or some muppet's cocaine addiction. If the Guardian used a bent copper to get them the document about the Dowler hack then I have no issue with that. 2, There's simply no way the editor of the Guardian or BBC would authorise to hack the voicemails of missing or dead people. If I thought they did or would then I'd have no interest in them any more. I realise all papers use their dirty tactics, but the two differences above are what do it for me
Guest Bilo Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 The Guardian and the BBC are nothing like as profit centred or sensationalist as News International's publications. I think it extremely unlikely that either organisation would stoop to the tactics employed by the News of the World.
Webbo Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 1, The stories the BBC and papers like the Guardian will 'research' will be more in the public interest What they decide is in the public interest. They don't have the monopoly on what's right and wrong. 2, There's simply no way the editor of the Guardian or BBC would authorise to hack the voicemails of missing or dead people. You cannot know that for sure.
Dr The Singh Posted 12 July 2011 Posted 12 July 2011 I'm almost certain they would have, but there are two differences for me here - 1, The stories the BBC and papers like the Guardian will 'research' will be more in the public interest - they're not going to be about Jordan's new breast implants or some muppet's cocaine addiction. If the Guardian used a bent copper to get them the document about the Dowler hack then I have no issue with that. 2, There's simply no way the editor of the Guardian or BBC would authorise to hack the voicemails of missing or dead people. If I thought they did or would then I'd have no interest in them any more. I realise all papers use their dirty tactics, but the two differences above are what do it for me Bull cock, I read news from BBC everydays in particular the south asia section, they aren't as bad as NOTW but they are still unscrupilious and driven by political agenda, eg they will publish stupid stories about a man marrying a goat yet an innocent man is in prison in India, has been sentence to death unjustly, because he is a freedom fighter. Over 50,000 people have protest outside of India, yet not a pip squeek....why, because it would tarnish India's image, India have one of the worst human rights record, yet the BBC will never present it as such, because of the Indian rupeeeeeee, it's investment means alot more in britain then the truth!!! By the way, the guys name Professor Davinderpal Singh Bhullar!!
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