Price of Football survey

[Trav Le Bleu]

no players on Premiership salaries driving cars costing more than I earn a year

Now I hate to nitpick (actually I don't) but most top end large saloon cars probably cost more than most people earn in a year. I'd bet most of Leicerstershire CC drive cars more expensive than I earn in a year.

Point taken though.

[Daggers]

The guy's relocating his football team 10 miles away because he can make use of the cheap out of use ground and steal the out of use fans.

Kettering fans are horrified by this.

You've really convinced me that this is the club, the level and kind of people I should be supporting

No he isn't, the landlord has driven the team out of the ground and there is no better alternative within the radius.

Kettering fans are horrified? Are they? Are they really? Apart from the sadsack cvnts with no viable alternative plan, the on-target record number of season ticket holders says otherwise.

"Steal the out of use fans"? Behave. I remembered you having a touch more intelligence than that.

[iBleedLeicesterColours]

Was going to post this earlier.

Interesting read.

I haven't bought a season ticket due to the fact turning 18 more than doubled the price. I can afford it, but I am choosing not to pay up. I have bought a season ticket for the last two years and am priority 2. I was there when we went down for the majority. This year we are likely to do well, and despite being a loyal supporter I probably won't be able to get many away tickets (e.g. Forest Derby and others towards the end such as Leeds, WHU). Don't get me wrong I still want to attend games, particularly awayers, which I will do so. I just find it wrong that loyal supporters get no sort of reward at all. I'll take advantage of offers such as The Sun's at the minute but that'll be about it.

Ticket prices and all the other little bits are ruining the matchday experience. It'll be a shame that I was there when we were shit and not be able to be a full part of the potentially good times. However, I can see football clubs ripping off their fans (the most important part of a club) In one sense. Im a one man band boycotting my team, which won't make a difference. Imagine if no-one attended for one week only across the nation, may make clubs reconsider.

Money is ruining football.

[HEGGSY]

£3.50 for a f..king pie at pompey Jesus christ

[liamsm]

Tickets for 2 adults, 4 kids and 1 senior citizen for Real Madrid was £125...

5 burgers, 1 chips and 6 bottles of coke outside the ground was £38.40. (we ate out the tonight before us at a pub for the same price and was much better food)!!..

We then bought 4 new shirts at £40 each..

The total for the day was over £320......!!

Season ticket costs me £100 a month.

I cant believe that it cost £23.80 for 5 burgers, bottle of coke was £2x6 £12, portion of chips £2.60 added to the coke = £14.60 if my maths is correct that leaves £23.80.

if your season ticket is £100 a month u dont say how many months for, but if you can afford to spend all that money on food why dont you pay cash for the season ticket? cos mine was'nt that much

[MrSpaM]

Season ticket costs me £100 a month.

Even the most expensive season ticket would only cost just over £60 a month?!?

[Rusko187]

Even the most expensive season ticket would only cost just over £60 a month?!?

I'm paying £53 a month (although I'm scummy SK1)

[Corky]

£59 to watch the snow.

[Houdini Logic]

No he isn't, the landlord has driven the team out of the ground and there is no better alternative within the radius.

Kettering fans are horrified? Are they? Are they really? Apart from the sadsack cvnts with no viable alternative plan, the on-target record number of season ticket holders says otherwise.

"Steal the out of use fans"? Behave. I remembered you having a touch more intelligence than that.

I would have thought the money lost from these cut prices could have been used to cover the rent in the existing location, unless maybe Ladak saw it as an opportunity to grow his fanbase? Or maybe he could have invested some of his several million pound to create a new stadium (a local school put a proposal forward and there are plenty of places around Kettering).

Genuinely, the Kettering fans I know will not be going to Nene Park next year - they're disgusted by it and they see it as another dangerous financial move. You realise it's no different to Forest going out of business and us going to play at their ground.

And does your footballing gentleman Ladak have any opinions on the R&D fans? They've had to put in their own appeal to the football league because their chairman has dumped them to jump into bed with Ladak and noone is trying to save their club.

You may have thought I was more intelligent, but I certainly thought you were less naive.

[m00nie]

I cant believe that it cost £23.80 for 5 burgers, bottle of coke was £2x6 £12, portion of chips £2.60 added to the coke = £14.60 if my maths is correct that leaves £23.80.

if your season ticket is £100 a month u dont say how many months for, but if you can afford to spend all that money on food why dont you pay cash for the season ticket? cos mine was'nt that much

i cant believe you spent the time to work out his figures to show hes wrong, to me i would just see it was a costly day out. for him which i believe is what hes getting at..

Even the most expensive season ticket would only cost just over £60 a month?!?

seeing as 2 adults, 4 children 1 oap went maybe theres more than 1 season ticket being paid for??

[MC Prussian]

Well, if I had a house, a wife, two cars, a few motorbikes and - above all - a minimum of two kids, of course I'd complain about the price of football.

[Guest MattP]

That's the opinion of Imran Ladak too.

And me.

And that the modern game is over-hyped beyond belief. The number of games which are actually worth watching in any given season in the top flight could be counted on a pair of hands. You could get away with one hand in the championship. The quality of the play watched isn't balanced out by the price being charged.

It's a gamble on the part of Ladak to make tickets a third of the price he was charging at Rockingham Road but I guess the logic is that he may be able to get three times the number of people coming along to Nene Park. Whichever way it cuts, I'll be going along because I'm sure as shit sick of forking out fifty to a hundred quid every Saturday for (at best) insipid football.

I'll go back to the ground where it all started for me, where I used to get in free as a kid at half-time and collect my A4 folded-in-half "program". Where Howard Kettleborough was a star and the highpoint was the installation of floodlights for the FA Cup final qualifying round against Dagenham in 1978.

No goal music and no players on Premiership salaries driving cars costing more than I earn a year but unable to stick a boot on a ball. Just honest to goodness shit football, crap playing surfaces and stinking fog rising from the River Nene - reminiscent of the old tannery next door.

I devoted years and thousands of pounds in following City but it simply isn't my club any longer, it belongs to accountants and investors and its soul can be bought in the club shop for £75 in a plastic frame. You have a choice - continue to pay these ridiculous prices and "they" will continue to rob you blind.

For the first time next year I will be delibrately missing a few games, I just can't support what we have become, its everything I have tried to get football away from, I have became less and less interested every year since leaving Filbo but I dont even feel like I am supporting a football club anymore, its just a huge advertising campaign masquerading as LCFC.

I'm going to turn off the the premiership completely and try and watch more German football. You are right about only a handful of games being worth watching as well.

If fans want to accept that football is a business that is upto them, I never well, if they are to accept football is a business then they also have to accept that like businesses football clubs will cease to exist and that has to be accepted as part of the game, I'm not prepared to accept that when there is no need to run any football club in the red.

If we go up this it wont have any sort of buzz as any of the other promotions I have seen over the years, will just feel like we have purchased it, after all, it's business.

[Daggers]

I would have thought the money lost from these cut prices could have been used to cover the rent in the existing location, unless maybe Ladak saw it as an opportunity to grow his fanbase? Or maybe he could have invested some of his several million pound to create a new stadium (a local school put a proposal forward and there are plenty of places around Kettering).

Genuinely, the Kettering fans I know will not be going to Nene Park next year - they're disgusted by it and they see it as another dangerous financial move. You realise it's no different to Forest going out of business and us going to play at their ground.

And does your footballing gentleman Ladak have any opinions on the R&D fans? They've had to put in their own appeal to the football league because their chairman has dumped them to jump into bed with Ladak and noone is trying to save their club.

You may have thought I was more intelligent, but I certainly thought you were less naive.

There's not a single part of your post which isn't total bollocks.

[Houdini Logic]

There's not a single part of your post which isn't total bollocks.

Total bollocks?

Let's look through the points I made (which you conveniently avoided and decided instead for an insult)

Point 1 - So is he not worth several million pound?

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/rich_list/article3799151.ece

Point 2 - Yeah the fans are over the moon, check out the comments here

http://www.northantset.co.uk/news/local/corby/d_day_nears_on_poppies_future_1_2773104

Point 3 - Have a litle ganders at how happy the R&D lot are about this

http://www.thediamondsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3936

I didn't even realise that Ladak and the landlord of R&D are moving to Nene park this season (with a year left on Rockingham Road) just to avoid any AFC club starting up in Kettering and claiming what is rightfully their own.

Oh and while I was on there i found this...

'I think alot of RDFC people will go to watch on the pretence of "lets see what its like" not neccesarily to support the club but to see a football match with cheap tickets.'

Sound familiar? Yes, because it's exactly what I said and you shot down.

Anyway - going in to this amount of detail on a Leicester forum isn't appropriate, I was just trying to show you that your fanticised dream of lower league footballing gentleman and integrity is frankly ridiculous. They're as dodgy at that level as they are at our own and they clearly care about their fans, don't they

Kettering season tickets were £330 last year for the record.

[Guest Col city fan]

Meanwhile in the Prem.....£35 for a ticket at Swansea.

The biggest surprise here for me is people willing to pay 25 notes for the cheapest ticket at the sheep shaggers! 25 quid to watch that bag of shite!!!

[Daggers]

I would have thought the money lost from these cut prices could have been used to cover the rent in the existing location, unless maybe Ladak saw it as an opportunity to grow his fanbase? Or maybe he could have invested some of his several million pound to create a new stadium (a local school put a proposal forward and there are plenty of places around Kettering).

Genuinely, the Kettering fans I know will not be going to Nene Park next year - they're disgusted by it and they see it as another dangerous financial move. You realise it's no different to Forest going out of business and us going to play at their ground.

And does your footballing gentleman Ladak have any opinions on the R&D fans? They've had to put in their own appeal to the football league because their chairman has dumped them to jump into bed with Ladak and noone is trying to save their club.

Record season ticket sales suggest that there are more opinions held about the issue than that of your friends - and going by your post I'm not surprised that they don't represent anybody normal's opinion. Certainly not those held by the Trust which agreed with the move, the 50% of Trust members who voted for it and the members of the Poppies forum who have rapidly created a volte face and are now buying STs.The league demands security of tenure as part of the team's contract to take part in it, the main thing being denied by the owner of RR. The price rise in rent was a secondary issue without a seven year rolling tenancy, albeit an issue as well.

The idea the team build an entire stadium at a school is a pathetically juvenile plan. As is the idea that Ladak uses his entire net worth to build a stadium. As is the idea that net worth correlates to disposable assets, Ladak's business was losing net worth until James Caan took on a majority shareholding but I'm sure the dragon would be delighted to sell it all off in order to build a football ground.

The R&D Chairman is not teaming up with Ladak. He did not jump into bed with him. Ladak was the only chairman in the BSP who argued that the League should not expel R&D, leaving them to compete this season. In fact, neither of the Beasants have anything whatsoever to do with KTFC. They still own the name R&D and the outstanding debts but the landlord of the stadium seized ownership and has undertaken negotiations with any party wishing to open an agreement. An agreement in principal was reached between the Landlord and KTFC which gives the club improved facilities and security of tenure.

So, exactly what are the R&D "fans" appealing about with regards this business move? They tried to appeal against the expulsion of their team from the BSP but that is irrelevant to your point. They presided over the massive decline in the club and caused the entire situation. They have a youth team and have no means of renting the ground which (I presume) you would expect to be used for free or kept empty until they climb back up the non-league pyramid.

Total bollocks?

So, yes - you spouted total bollocks in that post.

[Daggers]

Point 1 - So is he not worth several million pound?

http://business.time...icle3799151.ece

See the previous post

Point 2 - Yeah the fans are over the moon, check out the comments here

http://www.northants...uture_1_2773104

Fvck me, what an exhaustive survey there

Point 3 - Have a litle ganders at how happy the R&D lot are about this

http://www.thediamon....php?f=2&t=3936

Did you even read the thread before linking to it? It clearly cites the point that it is expected many ex-R&D supporters will go to watch the matches just as they did when Irthlingborough Diamonds ceased to exist.

Of course there will be those who are very unhappy about everything that has happened but there are very few R&D supporters who had the club as their only team, like many other non-league supporters. Consequently, even though the idea of a team playing 10 miles away from it's home is idiotic, it will work.

Now if I were you I'd step away from the keyboard before you make a bigger fool of yourself over this.

[ramboacdc]

i think we have faired pretty well. cant believe the shirts are £40 a pop. im only a member as i cant justify buying a season ticket cuz i usually work saturdays (granted in leicester so i could in theory park my car at work. finish at 2pm and walk to the ground but its not worth the risk)

i gotta get myself and my 1 year old daughter a new shirt this year. need her name putting on the back and her number. if its £40 for my shirt i might skip having my name on the back.

but hey thats football theses days. they dont play for free and the chairman wants a return on his investment.

ipswich though...jesus!

[Houdini Logic]

Now if I were you I'd step away from the keyboard before you make a bigger fool of yourself over this.

Have fun living the lower league dream with your caring chairman, your honest football and your lada driving players.

I'm sure they'll love you over at poppynet.co.uk.

Take care

[Daggers]

I remembered you having a touch more intelligence than that.

It's not often that I'm wrong and less often that I'll ever admit it - but I must have been thinking of someone else entirely, Ibbosuk or Dangerous Tiger or someone.

[coolhandfox]

I devoted years and thousands of pounds in following City but it simply isn't my club any longer, it belongs to accountants and investors and its soul can be bought in the club shop for £75 in a plastic frame. You have a choice - continue to pay these ridiculous prices and "they" will continue to rob you blind.

Isn’t the soul of a football club it fans, which really can't be brought or sold...............

[bobbysmith]

To see my local team is £25 a pop....

Swindon do play some classy football these days...