Finnegan Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 And before we get too sniffy about that, let's not forget that Swansea's Brendan Rodgers had a similar CV via Chelsea's reserves. And was utterly bollocks when he first started in Championship management, needing a fair while to settle and find his feet before doing well at Swansea. We don't have that time. I really wish Ole the best, behind Sven he's one of the greatest blokes in football. But I think we've probably learnt from that lesson. We need an experienced hard-ass who can whip our very, very talented collection of individuals in to a team. I don't want a Davies that we're going to need to replace in twelve months if he DOES get us up, but I'd much rather a Hughes (if he's realistic) over Solskjaer any day - as much as I love him.
Webbo Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 This isn't an ultimatum or backing MON into a corner it's just asking him if he could let them know if he's interested in the next day or 2 so they can look elsewhere if he's not. Totally reasonable.
Finnegan Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 This isn't an ultimatum or backing MON into a corner it's just asking him if he could let them know if he's interested in the next day or 2 so they can look elsewhere if he's not. Totally reasonable. Spot on, that's business. Some silly overreactions in this thread.
Thracian Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 And was utterly bollocks when he first started in Championship management, needing a fair while to settle and find his feet before doing well at Swansea. We don't have that time. I really wish Ole the best, behind Sven he's one of the greatest blokes in football. But I think we've probably learnt from that lesson. We need an experienced hard-ass who can whip our very, very talented collection of individuals in to a team. I don't want a Davies that we're going to need to replace in twelve months if he DOES get us up, but I'd much rather a Hughes (if he's realistic) over Solskjaer any day - as much as I love him. There's no way I'd want Hughes.
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 This isn't an ultimatum or backing MON into a corner it's just asking him if he could let them know if he's interested in the next day or 2 so they can look elsewhere if he's not. Totally reasonable.
Corky Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Are you reading a different forum to the rest of us?
l444ry Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 This isn't an ultimatum or backing MON into a corner it's just asking him if he could let them know if he's interested in the next day or 2 so they can look elsewhere if he's not. Totally reasonable. That's pretty obvious! The annoying part is why did the journalist have to put such a sensationalist spin on it, thereby insinuating he was being pushed into a corner?
Guest Bilo Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Ever thought the deadline is actually with us more than MON? I.e. 'If we haven't heard back from him in two days, we need to forget him and move on?' As opposed to the gun to his head option this article makes it sound like.
Finnegan Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 there's no way I'd want Hughes. Well no, I doubt you would. But with the greatest respect, Tony, I stopped paying any real stock to your opinions on football years ago. On your good days you're brightly sentimental and on your bad you're madly delusional. What, exactly, you think OGS is going to bring at this point in time (or what evidence you have to suggest he'll bring it) that Hughes would not is absolutely beyond any of us, I'm sure. Even were you a massive fan of the Norwegian league and an avid follower of Molde (and I'm willing to bet substantially you are not) his brief successes there offer almost no validation to the claims that he'd be a hit here. What we need is a strong character and a good organizer who can come in and give the board what they want, a solid, winning team.
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 That's pretty obvious! The annoying part is why did the journalist have to put such a sensationalist spin on it, thereby insinuating he was being pushed into a corner? They know sweet FA
He's not bald Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 This isn't an ultimatum or backing MON into a corner it's just asking him if he could let them know if he's interested in the next day or 2 so they can look elsewhere if he's not. Totally reasonable. Agreed,one of the most sensible things posted in here in the last 24 hours! If we are still to be promoted then we can't mess about, if the Thais think MON is the man for the job and need an answer then he can surely say yes (depending on terms and conditions) or no definately not interested within 48 hours
irishgus Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 I like that people are starting to mention OGS a bit more, I think he would be a good choice along with Di Matteo both behined MON of course!!
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Have you been sniffing glue again? Nope...........all i can smell on here is total bullshite !!
Guest Bilo Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 And was utterly bollocks when he first started in Championship management, needing a fair while to settle and find his feet before doing well at Swansea. We don't have that time. I really wish Ole the best, behind Sven he's one of the greatest blokes in football. But I think we've probably learnt from that lesson. We need an experienced hard-ass who can whip our very, very talented collection of individuals in to a team. I don't want a Davies that we're going to need to replace in twelve months if he DOES get us up, but I'd much rather a Hughes (if he's realistic) over Solskjaer any day - as much as I love him. He was shit at Reading but then Reading do like to think the season doesn't start till after Christmas. Joking aside I have a great feeling about Ole and his future. I have no doubt that he will return to England one day and make a success of it, why not with us? He comes very highly rated, learned his trade under arguably the greatest British manager of the past 25 years and has been a huge success in his native Norway. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see O'Neill or Sparky come here when their CVs are considered but compared to some of the other names mentioned of late such as Roy Keane and Alan Shearer, he looks a pretty attractive left field option.
He's not bald Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 I like that people are starting to mention OGS a bit more, I think he would be a good choice along with Di Matteo both behined MON of course!! Behave..OGS!...why????
Webbo Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Nope...........all i can smell on here is total bullshite !! Thanks for your input.
CountesthorpeFox Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Don't make out it takes something mysteriously special to get out of The Championship because it doesn't. There's some good, honest teams in this League but nothing marvellous at all. The requirements of winning football matches are the same at any level in relative terms and OGS will have seen stacks of Championship-standard football and footballers in his illustrious career and know full well what is required. The "basis" you mention is that he's an attacker. A man who believes in scoring goals and knows how to do that. He's shone at one of the most attack-minded clubs in the world and I for one have had enough of the half-hearted or cautious approach. The likes of Davies and Jones aren't a choice for the future either. OGS has the class necessary for the Premiership. See the last 13 months. So did Shearer but how did that work out for him?
Captain... Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Agree with sentiment if not the wording, lets not mess around with Martin, make him a good offer, and I'm pretty sure they have done, wait for his response. If he is not enthusiastic about the job then I don't want him here, if he wants the job and the Thais want him, then it shouldn't take 48 hours to sort something out, there is no third party involved, nothing complicated. If it does take that long then lets knock it on the head and look for someone else.
Zingari Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 why didn't they just say 2 days or even a couple of days ? everyone wants to be snappy Hollywood these days !!
Finnegan Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 He was shit at Reading but then Reading do like to think the season doesn't start till after Christmas. Joking aside I have a great feeling about Ole and his future. I have no doubt that he will return to England one day and make a success of it, why not with us? He comes very highly rated, learned his trade under arguably the greatest British manager of the past 25 years and has been a huge success in his native Norway. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see O'Neill or Sparky come here when their CVs are considered but compared to some of the other names mentioned of late such as Roy Keane and Alan Shearer, he looks a pretty attractive left field option. OGS is just Sparky lite. I don't really see what people would see in him over Hughes (not that you're suggesting that, it seems.) They were both talented strikers that learned from Fergie - but Hughes is a strong, determined and mature personality who's established a good CV in his time in management. His showings at Fulham and Blackburn weren't far off O'Neill's here, to be honest. Thracian seems to think OGS is going to commit to Total Football purely because he played up front as a player; hello? Ever watched a John Toshack side in action? Christ. Not every centre forward goes on to be Kevin Keegan when he gets in to management.
CountesthorpeFox Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Three very successful seasons as Manchester United reserves coach as well. And before we get too sniffy about that, let's not forget that Swansea's Brendan Rodgers had a similar CV via Chelsea's reserves. I just do not understand how you can call OGS ahead of people like Davies or Jones. Hey, I'd love him to come and do well but there is not much basis for us to think he would do any better than an awful lot of other managers out there. Bags of potential maybe but for every Brendan Rodgers there are scores of reserve coaches who have never or will never achieve anything at first team level. To base the argument that OGS will do well (or better than a host of other managers) off a decent reserve record and a good season in Norway is flimsy. Thats not being sniffy.
Finnegan Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 Why the **** would you want Dave Jones here? He only "knows this division" well because he couldn't fucking get out of it. Neil Warnock is the most overhyped, under-achieving, serial failure in sport but even he's gotten out of this league more than Jones!
The Doctor Posted 25 October 2011 Posted 25 October 2011 I think rob's right about it more being down to O'Neill responding to the speculation (even in private) within the next couple of days otherwise we need to move on. If O'Neill says no I wouldn't mind Mixu Panttelian (sp -Current hibs boss and former cowdenbeath chief)
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