O'neill - legend status?

[chili_con_carne]

he has reportedly turned this job down twice now. If he really wanted this job he would apply for it. Does anyone think the more times he turns us down, the less of a legend he is with our fans? It would be good to prove him wrong for turning us down and get promoted this season and become an established premier league team again. To everyone saying come home o'neill - he doesnt want this job, stop living in the past were in a new era now and need a new manager. So to summarise, stop bumming mon everyone, were leicester city not martin o neill fc

[Burmesefox]

He'll always be a legend but why would he risk his reputation dropping down a leagure from his capabilities and with a huge risk involved with the revolving doors at City? he stated that he was non too impressed with the sacking of Sven and lets face it - whoever takes on this job will do so knowing they have a gun pointed at their head and the first signs of failure would mean the bullet. The only thingthat would tempt him would be a huge salary and a short contract with very high severance pay. MON = GOD, he'd turn us around but the board cannot expect promotion this year with whoever they appoint - be that MON, The chosen one, SAF, Harry Rednap, or Lee Clarke.

[Guest Col city fan]

he has reportedly turned this job down twice now. If he really wanted this job he would apply for it. Does anyone think the more times he turns us down, the less of a legend he is with our fans? It would be good to prove him wrong for turning us down and get promoted this season and become an established premier league team again. To everyone saying come home o'neill - he doesnt want this job, stop living in the past were in a new era now and need a new manager. So to summarise, stop bumming mon everyone, were leicester city not martin o neill fc

I would assume that you start this thread based mainly upon your age?

If you were my age you wouldnt even consider writing such utter shite.

Martin did more for this club than any manager has done since.

He has his reasons for not wanting to come back.. they are his reasons, personal to him and he's an honourable man who does the correct thing for both himself and his family. If he felt it was correct, given his current circumstances he would return.

This man will always be a legend in my eyes as the best manager I've seen City play under.

[ozleicester]

TBH, If he's knocking it back out of fear of losing his reputation.... then he aint good enough

[Thracian]

I would assume that you start this thread based mainly upon your age?

If you were my age you wouldnt even consider writing such utter shite.

Martin did more for this club than any manager has done since.

He has his reasons for not wanting to come back.. they are his reasons, personal to him and he's an honourable man who does the correct thing for both himself and his family. If he felt it was correct, given his current circumstances he would return.

This man will always be a legend in my eyes as the best manager I've seen City play under.

Sums it up!

[bmt]

Not going to change my opinion of him, a true legend. I'd always try and tempt him back, such is the talent he has, but I don't expect him to come back- why would he risk tarnishing his reputation?

[escos]

Will people stop saying if you have a go at O'Neill you must be young. On the pitch him and his coaching staff did wonders. And his ability to find players was very good. But the man caused more trouble and unrest behind the scenes than anybody could imagine, his ego is massive and spits his dummy out if anyone dares disagree with him. As a manager I would like him back but as a man no thank you!

[AndyBrew]

but as a man no thank you!

I doubt very much you know the man, so a weird thing to say, and its not like you are going to be involved in numerous social functions where you are required to interact with him, surely you just want him to do well for your football club?

[accessory]

Will people stop saying if you have a go at O'Neill you must be young. On the pitch him and his coaching staff did wonders. And his ability to find players was very good. But the man caused more trouble and unrest behind the scenes than anybody could imagine, his ego is massive and spits his dummy out if anyone dares disagree with him. As a manager I would like him back but as a man no thank you!

F**k off Pierpoint...

[luckyalex13]

Will people stop saying if you have a go at O'Neill you must be young. On the pitch him and his coaching staff did wonders. And his ability to find players was very good. But the man caused more trouble and unrest behind the scenes than anybody could imagine, his ego is massive and spits his dummy out if anyone dares disagree with him. As a manager I would like him back but as a man no thank you!

really????

can you explain the 'trouble' he caused.

personally i think that if a manager is delivering the results (which he did!) then there should be no need for interference from anyone.

do you think Fergie lets people tell him he is wrong...NO

[Guest Col city fan]

Will people stop saying if you have a go at O'Neill you must be young. On the pitch him and his coaching staff did wonders. And his ability to find players was very good. But the man caused more trouble and unrest behind the scenes than anybody could imagine, his ego is massive and spits his dummy out if anyone dares disagree with him. As a manager I would like him back but as a man no thank you!

and you know this personally? or inside information? or just rumour and hearsay?.....

I do agree that O'Neil likes to do things his way, I dont think that up for dispute..and look at the usual outcome of that..let him!

[escos]

and you know this personally? or inside information? or just rumour and hearsay?.....

I do agree that O'Neil likes to do things his way, I dont think that up for dispute..and look at the usual outcome of that..let him!

It's not rocket science! Nor is it a big secret. He fell out with Randy Lerner for god sake who is one of the most reasonable understanding chairman in the premier league. If people either don't know what he is like or are too blinkered to accept it then they should be questioning their knowledge of our club!

Another reason I would be nervous about his return is that if he did fail everyone would still back him and if sacked I fear the owners would be driven away. Then we would be ****ed. I love this club not its players or manager.

[Corky]

I don't see why he'd want the job, he's done it before and wants a different challenge.

Does it diminish his legend status? No way, he did more for this club than virtually anyone. He gave us European football, he brought us trophies, he established us in the top flight.

Although I don't like him totally, as I was brought up early on to believe cup finals and good Premier League seasons was the norm

[Fox92]

If he was to come back though, what would he have to do to 'up' his already legendary status? He got Leicester to several top half Premier League finishes and won the Coca-Cola cup several times. Maybe he is worried that if he comes back he will only be remembered for this time around which could be not as good.

.... or maybe he doesn't want the job, so get over it.

[Charl91]

I think the problem is "legend" status would diminish if he did return. He's a very good manager, but in football you can't guarantee anything, and if he couldn't get us up then people might have second thoughts.

Would love him back either way, but I think he is too big for us now.

[Guest Col city fan]

Will people stop saying if you have a go at O'Neill you must be young. On the pitch him and his coaching staff did wonders. And his ability to find players was very good. But the man caused more trouble and unrest behind the scenes than anybody could imagine, his ego is massive and spits his dummy out if anyone dares disagree with him. As a manager I would like him back but as a man no thank you!

I ask you again..how do YOU know this?

And how do YOU know what went on between O'Neil and Randy Lerner.

You're just surmising based upon what you might have read..and if you base your opinions on what you read in the papers you're a twit.

I base my feelings on O'Neil on fact... that he was the best manager we've probably ever had, that he worked wonders at Celtic and that Villa never finished outside of the top 7 under his helm.

Thats good enough for me..the rest is open to debate.

I do, however, agree that for Martin to return to Leicester he would require the full, continued backing of the board. This may happen, or it may not..who knows?

[Walkers Pallet Chauffeur]

How many of the people on this forum were calling for his head, not long after he joined?

And he says he still remembers that.

[escos]

I ask you again..how do YOU know this?

And how do YOU know what went on between O'Neil and Randy Lerner.

You're just surmising based upon what you might have read..and if you base your opinions on what you read in the papers you're a twit.

I base my feelings on O'Neil on fact... that he was the best manager we've probably ever had, that he worked wonders at Celtic and that Villa never finished outside of the top 7 under his helm.

Thats good enough for me..the rest is open to debate.

I do, however, agree that for Martin to return to Leicester he would require the full, continued backing of the board. This may happen, or it may not..who knows?

I thought it was common knowledge!! And I accept the villa bit I did get from papers and villa fans. However my family is friends with the family of a former leicester chairman so that's how I know how much trouble he caused!

[Corky]

How many of the people on this forum were calling for his head, not long after he joined?

And he says he still remembers that.

I wasn't.

I was five at the time though.

[Guest Col city fan]

I thought it was common knowledge!! And I accept the villa bit I did get from papers and villa fans. However my family is friends with the family of a former leicester chairman so that's how I know how much trouble he caused!

hehe right..that clears it up then

You seem to be conveniently ignoring O'Neils successes..anywhere he's been..which have never been matched

Anyway, he'll either come or he won't..probably the latter

[hackneyfox]

really????

can you explain the 'trouble' he caused.

personally i think that if a manager is delivering the results (which he did!) then there should be no need for interference from anyone.

do you think Fergie lets people tell him he is wrong...NO

O'Neill had his bust up with the other directors BP etc and won.

He was then effectively allowed to decide what we would pay for a player and what salary would be offered.

He thgen left and Peter Taylor took over.

Taylor was allowed to do the same hence paying 1 million for Benjamin and paying a salary high enough to make akinbadbuy a millionaire.

We ended up in administration.

I'm a huge fan of O'Neill but he's far from being a saint.

[Burmesefox]

TBH, If he's knocking it back out of fear of losing his reputation.... then he aint good enough

Not at all. Would you ask vettel to drive in a skoda? Think about it it, we aren't exactly a smooth running ship and you cant polish a turd!

[Guest Col city fan]

Not at all. Would you ask vettel to drive in a skoda? Think about it it, we aren't exactly a smooth running ship and you cant polish a turd!

one of my favourite analogies..

Although you can't surely say that this squad or the club presently is a 'turd'?

A bit of a laughing stock to the other Championship Teams yes... but not a 'turd'

[Jimmy]

O'Neill had his bust up with the other directors BP etc and won.

He was then effectively allowed to decide what we would pay for a player and what salary would be offered.

He thgen left and Peter Taylor took over.

Taylor was allowed to do the same hence paying 1 million for Benjamin and paying a salary high enough to make akinbadbuy a millionaire.

We ended up in administration.

I'm a huge fan of O'Neill but he's far from being a saint.

O'Neill had proven his judgement was sound and could be trusted to make such decisions, Taylor hadn't so blame the board of thast era for not placing restraints on a novice manager

[luckyalex13]

O'Neill had his bust up with the other directors BP etc and won.

He was then effectively allowed to decide what we would pay for a player and what salary would be offered.

He thgen left and Peter Taylor took over.

Taylor was allowed to do the same hence paying 1 million for Benjamin and paying a salary high enough to make akinbadbuy a millionaire.

We ended up in administration.

I'm a huge fan of O'Neill but he's far from being a saint.

I'm not denying he wanted his own way but if he is getting results then he should be allowed to have his own way.

if a manager was not allowed to have decision making power he would be being judged on the boards decisions (chelsea)

either way i would love to have him back but doubt its going to happen.