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http://daringtodream.footballunited.com/2011/11/11/the-end-is-nigh-nigel-pearsons-hull-city-departure/?

The end is nigh: Nigel Pearson’s Hull City departure

November 11, 2011

Imagine: You have a good job. You enjoy it and perform admirably. But then you fall out with the boss, and despite still doing well, you feel you have to leave.

You get a new job, do well again and enjoy it, but nonetheless feel a bit disappointed that the disagreements with the boss meant you’d left the last one. It niggles. The new job is fine but it’s not quite the same, it’s not quite home.

Then your old company is taken over, a new boss comes in and decides he wants you back. Your old job on double the money. What would you do?

You would do exactly what Nigel Pearson has done this week. You might kid yourself and say you would stick with your new employer, it’s not about the money, you are loyal to the people you work for… But you would still go. You know you would. I would.

While Pearson’s immediate future remains in doubt as Leicester stall over paying appropriate compensation for his services, it seems almost implausible that he could ever return to east Yorkshire should those talks in the Midlands fail. I fully expect he will be installed at the King Power Stadium within the next seven days.

Yet amid all the rumours that have dominated the last week, some facts remain sacred.

Nigel Pearson is an extremely competent football coach.

He did a great job at Leicester City. The fans loved him and wanted him back.

He did a very admirable job at Hull City. Some fans admired him, but not everyone gave him the respect he (at that point) deserved and had earnt.

Someone offered him a huge amount of money and better short-term prospects.

That’s pretty much what this all boils down to. But do read on…

Some of the knucklehead Leicester fans on Twitter and in the forums have taken great pleasure in goading the Tigers supporters over Pearson’s choice. I’m not sure why.

Having seen a former England manager spend millions of pounds on their team and “fail” to such an extent that he lost his job, you might think most of them would be sufficiently embarrassed about the need to crawl back to their former manager that they would keep their mouths shut and wait until their fortunes improve.

In another 18 months or two years they will be the ones mocked when Pearson ditches them for a richer club in a higher division. It will happen.

Still, there’s nothing as fickle as football fans – as Hull City supporters have also shown this week.

A fortnight ago the Tigers were unbeaten in nine games, sitting pretty in the play-offs and dreaming of a promotion push under Pearson.

The volley of abuse aimed at him – indirectly – on Twitter and other forums in the past few days has been a little embarrassing. This was the guy who arguably saved us from a quite likely relegation (which would have been half of a double relegation) and turned the side around completely to such a degree we became potential play-off hopefuls. And what did he get for it? Idiots on phone-ins calling for his head after two defeats in three months.

There will be no tributes for Pearson’s time at the Tigers of the ilk served up when Phil Brown departed. But make no mistake, Pearson’s role in Hull City’s history should be remembered fondly, and may well be in the future.

He inherited a squad overloaded with over-paid underachievers, unwilling and unable to put in the performances on the pitch or make the decisions off it that were needed to help the club at a time of dire financial burden.

He leaves a squad loaded with young, hungry players, full of desire to make careers for themselves at the top level and prepared to bust a gut on the field and work as a unit to climb the table. And he did all that with a bit of nous, some decent contacts and not a lot of money.

We should be grateful. Even if you are not thankful for anything else, acknowledge the fact that Pearson built a squad capable of beating a long-standing club record for away games without defeat. What a change it made to travel the country knowing we’d come home with something to show for our day out.

No doubt when Pearson returns to the KC with his new side on December 3 he will receive plenty of abuse from the home fans. I intended to write that such a “welcome” would be wrong in my eyes, although the sad state of affairs we are now witnessing with these protracted negotiations has somewhat changed my mind. Pearson could have done the honourable thing and resigned at the KC in an effort to speed up the move. But he seemingly refuses to. He’ll also probably take his new side home with three points next month – typical City sod’s law.

I’m still sorry to see him go, but I’ll lose no sleep. I’d be more concerned if he returns in January with his multi-million pound kitty and attempts to pilfer away the likes of James Chester, Matty Fryatt and Liam Rosenior. We can only hope they have a greater degree of true loyalty – although such hopes will no doubt again be dashed. Money talks, simple as that. Any football fan who thinks loyalty counts for more than money is a fool.

I’d have been more greatly wounded by the departure of the other Pearson – Adam – a step which I fear can’t be too far away and which will have considerably more serious and dire consequences for the club as a whole.

Where City go from here remains to be seen. There are plenty of options; some good, some bad, some ugly (sorry, no more Iain Dowie jokes).

I think we could do a lot worse than Dave Jones, an admirable man both in football terms and in life generally. Steve McLaren, derided up and down the country, may do very well at a club he used to play for and in a city where his in-laws live. But the Allams’ suggestion that they want a younger man seems to rule out those two experienced heads.

Warren Joyce combined with Nick Barmby may create an ideal coaching combo given how many of our current players trained under our former manager at Manchester United’s Carrington training complex. Joyce seems to be the favourite and might be a good way of persuading the former United youngsters to Stick it out at the KC. But would he leave a cushy job at one of the biggest clubs in the world to return to a city where it took more than a decade for him to receive the praise he deserved for saving us from the drop into non-league football?

Time will tell. Until then we should simply say thank you and good luck to Nigel Pearson. I’m grateful for what he did for us, and that’s pretty much it. No man is bigger than the club. Peter Taylor wasn’t, Phil Brown wasn’t, Nigel Pearson isn’t.

The king is dead, long live the (soon-to-be-appointed) king.

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Some of the knucklehead Leicester fans on Twitter and in the forums have taken great pleasure in goading the Tigers supporters over Pearson’s choice. I’m not sure why.

Oh I don't know... maybe something to do with your fans giving it the big one and goading Leicester fans when he left us to go to you.

The boot is on the other foot, and you don't like the taste of someones size 9 in your mouth.

Posted

Decent article. Recognises both clubs have morons in their fan base. No shock there.

The fact is we are appointing him more on what he did with us before than what he did with Hull, though it is not a bad job. I think the guy is right we will see Pearson leave us to someone with more cash eventually, and I sincerely hope it is because he gets us promoted and keeps us up.

Posted

It's true, some of our fans are knuckleheads and quite frankly embarrassing.

It's just been the usual we're bigger than you stuff, like they gave out when he left. Christ there have been Hull fans on there giving it out as well. One loving chap calling anyone with LCFC in their post a 'see you next tuesday'.

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It's just been the usual we're bigger than you stuff, like they gave out when he left. Christ there have been Hull fans on there giving it out as well. One loving chap calling anyone with LCFC in their post a 'see you next tuesday'.

Whats happenig next tuesday??? :unsure:

Posted

Excellent article, well written without bitterness or resentment (which no doubt if it was the other way round I would have been*).

* I realise that he left us to go there and wasn't sacked, I suppose my lack of resentment came from the fact we were ready to appoint a new manager.

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http://daringtodream...ity-departure/?

The end is nigh: Nigel Pearson's Hull City departure

November 11, 2011

Imagine: You have a good job. You enjoy it and perform admirably. But then you fall out with the boss, and despite still doing well, you feel you have to leave.

You get a new job, do well again and enjoy it, but nonetheless feel a bit disappointed that the disagreements with the boss meant you'd left the last one. It niggles. The new job is fine but it's not quite the same, it's not quite home.

Then your old company is taken over, a new boss comes in and decides he wants you back. Your old job on double the money. What would you do?

You would do exactly what Nigel Pearson has done this week. You might kid yourself and say you would stick with your new employer, it's not about the money, you are loyal to the people you work for… But you would still go. You know you would. I would.

While Pearson's immediate future remains in doubt as Leicester stall over paying appropriate compensation for his services, it seems almost implausible that he could ever return to east Yorkshire should those talks in the Midlands fail. I fully expect he will be installed at the King Power Stadium within the next seven days.

Yet amid all the rumours that have dominated the last week, some facts remain sacred.

Nigel Pearson is an extremely competent football coach.

He did a great job at Leicester City. The fans loved him and wanted him back.

He did a very admirable job at Hull City. Some fans admired him, but not everyone gave him the respect he (at that point) deserved and had earnt.

Someone offered him a huge amount of money and better short-term prospects.

That's pretty much what this all boils down to. But do read on…

Some of the knucklehead Leicester fans on Twitter and in the forums have taken great pleasure in goading the Tigers supporters over Pearson's choice. I'm not sure why.

Having seen a former England manager spend millions of pounds on their team and "fail" to such an extent that he lost his job, you might think most of them would be sufficiently embarrassed about the need to crawl back to their former manager that they would keep their mouths shut and wait until their fortunes improve.

In another 18 months or two years they will be the ones mocked when Pearson ditches them for a richer club in a higher division. It will happen.

Still, there's nothing as fickle as football fans – as Hull City supporters have also shown this week.

A fortnight ago the Tigers were unbeaten in nine games, sitting pretty in the play-offs and dreaming of a promotion push under Pearson.

The volley of abuse aimed at him – indirectly – on Twitter and other forums in the past few days has been a little embarrassing. This was the guy who arguably saved us from a quite likely relegation (which would have been half of a double relegation) and turned the side around completely to such a degree we became potential play-off hopefuls. And what did he get for it? Idiots on phone-ins calling for his head after two defeats in three months.

There will be no tributes for Pearson's time at the Tigers of the ilk served up when Phil Brown departed. But make no mistake, Pearson's role in Hull City's history should be remembered fondly, and may well be in the future.

He inherited a squad overloaded with over-paid underachievers, unwilling and unable to put in the performances on the pitch or make the decisions off it that were needed to help the club at a time of dire financial burden.

He leaves a squad loaded with young, hungry players, full of desire to make careers for themselves at the top level and prepared to bust a gut on the field and work as a unit to climb the table. And he did all that with a bit of nous, some decent contacts and not a lot of money.

We should be grateful. Even if you are not thankful for anything else, acknowledge the fact that Pearson built a squad capable of beating a long-standing club record for away games without defeat. What a change it made to travel the country knowing we'd come home with something to show for our day out.

No doubt when Pearson returns to the KC with his new side on December 3 he will receive plenty of abuse from the home fans. I intended to write that such a "welcome" would be wrong in my eyes, although the sad state of affairs we are now witnessing with these protracted negotiations has somewhat changed my mind. Pearson could have done the honourable thing and resigned at the KC in an effort to speed up the move. But he seemingly refuses to. He'll also probably take his new side home with three points next month – typical City sod's law.

I'm still sorry to see him go, but I'll lose no sleep. I'd be more concerned if he returns in January with his multi-million pound kitty and attempts to pilfer away the likes of James Chester, Matty Fryatt and Liam Rosenior. We can only hope they have a greater degree of true loyalty – although such hopes will no doubt again be dashed. Money talks, simple as that. Any football fan who thinks loyalty counts for more than money is a fool.

I'd have been more greatly wounded by the departure of the other Pearson – Adam – a step which I fear can't be too far away and which will have considerably more serious and dire consequences for the club as a whole.

Where City go from here remains to be seen. There are plenty of options; some good, some bad, some ugly (sorry, no more Iain Dowie jokes).

I think we could do a lot worse than Dave Jones, an admirable man both in football terms and in life generally. Steve McLaren, derided up and down the country, may do very well at a club he used to play for and in a city where his in-laws live. But the Allams' suggestion that they want a younger man seems to rule out those two experienced heads.

Warren Joyce combined with Nick Barmby may create an ideal coaching combo given how many of our current players trained under our former manager at Manchester United's Carrington training complex. Joyce seems to be the favourite and might be a good way of persuading the former United youngsters to Stick it out at the KC. But would he leave a cushy job at one of the biggest clubs in the world to return to a city where it took more than a decade for him to receive the praise he deserved for saving us from the drop into non-league football?

Time will tell. Until then we should simply say thank you and good luck to Nigel Pearson. I'm grateful for what he did for us, and that's pretty much it. No man is bigger than the club. Peter Taylor wasn't, Phil Brown wasn't, Nigel Pearson isn't.

The king is dead, long live the (soon-to-be-appointed) king.

It is what it is !

Posted

100% true, good piece.

I just wish we could get him in & on the training ground, we need it, 2 weeks would have been ideal not as ideal as the summer, but certainly more ideal than 7 days & shrinking as it's turning out to be.

Posted

"In another 18 months or two years they will be the ones mocked when Pearson ditches them for a richer club in a higher division. It will happen"

Err, no it won't. Pearson knows that the only way he will ever manage again in the top flight, at least with any success, is if he takes us there. This is why this is such a defining point in his career, and why he is so desperate to return to us.

This article highlights the level of delusion that still exists among the Hull fanbase. Why should we have the slightest interest in adding Fryatt, Rosenior, or Chester to our squad? We sold them Fryatt for a reason, and that reason still applies.

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While Pearson’s immediate future remains in doubt as Leicester stall over paying appropriate compensation for his services, it seems almost implausible that he could ever return to east Yorkshire should those talks in the Midlands fail. I fully expect he will be installed at the King Power Stadium within the next seven days.

Debatable if some of the figures flying about are true.

Posted

Oh I don't know... maybe something to do with your fans giving it the big one and goading Leicester fans when he left us to go to you.

The boot is on the other foot, and you don't like the taste of someones size 9 in your mouth.

The article was quite sensible until that childish line.

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