Peterborough Post Match Thread

[acooling08]

I was at the game.

The first 10 minutes we could have been 3-0 up. After that the game fizzled out a bit. It was very nervy and quiet. Second half we went ahead but then failed to push on for a second. Boro pulled a goal back from absolutely nothing. At 1-1 there was only 1 team going to win it and that was Peterborough!

[Kitchandro]

It's looking more and more likely that we may be lucky to even make the play offs.

Despite the millions spent by Sven, we seem to be a team that I feel is no better now than it was 3 seasons ago.

We have the odd individual class players but the remainder seem like journeymen.

Our midfield in particular is without doubt sadly lacking in class.

Can Pearson turn this around and bring in players to improve the squad in January, personally I doubt it.

This transfer window is usually for clubs to offload their unwanted players, not their better players who can command a large fee come the summer.

To be fair, NP has a knack of finding decent young loanees from Premiership clubs, but this is not really the answer.

Unfortunately due to the demands of the owners, it seems likely that whomsoever manages the team they would not be allowed to slowly build a team to take us into the Premiership. They want results and want them now.

To them this means buying the way to success. We all know that many clubs have tried this approach and failed.

The more successful teams have spent several years in the building process, this is something we should try!

I just hope that the owners will be patient and not see us once more have a managers revolving door.

There is no doubt that we could and should have won todays game, especially against one of the worst defensive teams in the division.

Promotion, forget it.

Well you can't just accept being shit for a few seasons whilst trying to build a team. As long as we aren't making the team up of loans I don't see what we are doing is any different.

Man City have spent a load of money and they are top of the Premiership and won the FA Cup last season. Chelsea have won it 3 times since their money came in.

We can build a team but we need the right players and we need to get to the Premiership ASAP. If I was the owner instead of Top I wouldn't want to be in this league for very long and I'd be expecting a return for my money. In fact even as a fan I'm fed up of this league, I don't care how we get up, I just want to do it. THEN we build a team in the Premiership and hopefully build some sort of success.

I really hope Nigel isn't sacked at the end of the season but he should be expected to finish in the play-offs.

[Kitchandro]

Reality dawns

A clown dawns. If you haven't noticed nobody is agreeing with him.

You should realise that Barmby's only in a honeymoon period, you only have to listen to him to see that he's thick.

[Kitchandro]

Who cares if Pearson is the right choice or not, personally I feel so dejected where we are at the moment despite our riches, and this sacking mentality we have is never going to get us anywhere. We must give NP time!!, who cares if we don't get into the prem this season I don't. We will eventually but only if we stick with the manager and allow him to build this team (mainly midfield) because clearly he knows it isn't up to scratch with the demands of promotion campaign in this division

I bloody do. That's the whole point isn't it? What else are we playing for?

[Dan]

Nice to see the tinpot Hull fan is back on chirping up, well done on beating Coventry, even Sven managed that.

But then again what do you expect, small clubs like Hull would always try and milk any sort of attention from a club they'd never be nearly as big as, so this is the last of my attention to them.

[Guy]

Pearson is the right man, a good young manager, exactly what every team wants.

Once again the only problem is the midfield. Hopefully NP can sign one or two players and get a loan or two in. Play offs is our only hope, we will not get automatics, no way.

Pearson is the right man, a good young manager, exactly what every team wants.

Once again the only problem is the midfield. Hopefully NP can sign one or two players and get a loan or two in. Play offs is our only hope, we will not get automatics, no way.

You say promotion is out of the question but look at the present top two teams in the Championship, who are hardly in convincing form themselves! - West Ham losing heavily at Reading today - albeit finishing with 9 men I know - but they've lost to the likes of mediocre Burnley and Ipswich at home this season already, hardly convincing form! - and Southampton have lost to two teams in the bottom three since occupying top spot in recent weeks! They only just grabbed a point against Blackpool today in the final minutes....even though they effectively dropped two points due to their calamitous stand in goalkeeper today conceding a belter at the other end! Even so, it doesn't matter about the manner of how you didn't win the game (in Southampton's case today). it just goes to show that the old cliche of "anybody can beat anybody in the Championship" (and at any given time it seems!). This is why we have got to remain optimistic, even though we've already dropped two points in the first of our so called easy five games......

[Leicester_Loyal]

Because we've still got another three games before the transfer window opens and I can't see us gaining maximum points from them. Even if WHU and Southampton drop more points, Cardiff and Middlesbrough look far more likely to capitalise on their bad form than we do.

[City Fox]

Because we've still got another three games before the transfer window opens and I can't see us gaining maximum points from them. Even if WHU and Southampton drop more points, Cardiff and Middlesbrough look far more likely to capitalise on their bad form than we do.

Doncaster (A),

Ipswich (H),

Portsmouth (H)

9 points from that lot or forget about promotion and probably the play off's. That's the bread and butter of this league. Even so I fancy us to get the points

As for today I know everyone expected 3 points including myself but Peterborough aren't as bad an outfit as they were the last time they came up, there's a lot of teams who'll be in around the promotion spots at the end of the season will drop points to them this season. Yeah it's a blip, did I expect three points? Absolutely. Am I happy with the way the team played? Reasonably happy with the effort from the team. Will you take the point? Yes I will, for the simple reason when they scored you can't just go gung ho because of what there capable of. One of the highest scorers in the league the last thing I would have wanted to see was us go all out for the three points and end up losing it in a 5-4 in the 94th minute because that's how they've got the majority of there points this year. We'll pick up the wins to be there or there abouts this year just gotta pick your opponents and Peterborough are not a side I'd like to take on in a goal brawl

[thejfox]

Well you can't just accept being shit for a few seasons whilst trying to build a team. As long as we aren't making the team up of loans I don't see what we are doing is any different.

Man City have spent a load of money and they are top of the Premiership and won the FA Cup last season. Chelsea have won it 3 times since their money came in.

We can build a team but we need the right players and we need to get to the Premiership ASAP. If I was the owner instead of Top I wouldn't want to be in this league for very long and I'd be expecting a return for my money. In fact even as a fan I'm fed up of this league, I don't care how we get up, I just want to do it. THEN we build a team in the Premiership and hopefully build some sort of success.

I really hope Nigel isn't sacked at the end of the season but he should be expected to finish in the play-offs.

yes i would luv us to go up (no brainer)

but what about now?

now we are in the championship

now we dont look like scoring against below average championship teams

now we seem to lack any passion or quality in midfield and upfront.

too much talk about the future and not about now.

this squad is no better than the team that got us out of division one

the only real quality i have seen this season apart from gally 2nd goal two weeks ago ( and ive been to every game) is the goalkeeper.

thank god for casper or we might be in the bottom half right now

[Guest Col city fan]

yes i would luv us to go up (no brainer)

but what about now?

now we are in the championship

now we dont look like scoring against below average championship teams

now we seem to lack any passion or quality in midfield and upfront.

too much talk about the future and not about now.

this squad is no better than the team that got us out of division one

the only real quality i have seen this season apart from gally 2nd goal two weeks ago ( and ive been to every game) is the goalkeeper.

thank god for casper or we might be in the bottom

half right now

I agree with you to an extent. It's difficult to argue that Bamba is no better than Michael Morrison or Peltier is no better than Robbie Nielsen, to give just two examples.

However, with that first team that was put out yesterday I have to admit I can't see that team getting us promotion.

I really really think we aren't too far away though.

We need a tough midfielder, another winger and a good striker. For me, good players in just those three positions will make a massive difference to this team.

[fatmando]

My opinion if anyone cares (prob not):

Pearson not to blame - the players showed no grit, no real desire. Work ethic from most of the players after 20 mins was not acceptable.

Pearson must drop Wellens next game. All he talks about is the competitivesness for a place in the first xi...well someone needs to replace Wellens asap. He was shocking from where I was sitting. Will send a clear message that your shit - then you aint playing.

We need a Emile Heskey type player up top with Beckford. Not Stevie though he's shit too now. Although Beckford not innocent. Doesn't fight hard enough for me. Expects the perfect ball too much. You have to get stuck in aswell Jermaine.

SSL is also shite imo. Don't rate him at all.

Not wasting all that money coming all the way down to the games in the freezing cold anymore this season until something drastically improves.

[thejfox]

I agree with you to an extent. It's difficult to argue that Bamba is no better than Michael Morrison or Peltier is no better than Robbie Nielsen, to give just two examples.

However, with that first team that was put out yesterday I have to admit I can't see that team getting us promotion.

I really really think we aren't too far away though.

We need a tough midfielder, another winger and a good striker. For me, good players in just those three positions will make a massive difference to this team.

i thought bamber had a poor game yesterday

but i do accept your point about peltier

he has a big future

[flowwolf]

I agree with you to an extent. It's difficult to argue that Bamba is no better than Michael Morrison or Peltier is no better than Robbie Nielsen, to give just two examples.

However, with that first team that was put out yesterday I have to admit I can't see that team getting us promotion.

I really really think we aren't too far away though.

We need a tough midfielder, another winger and a good striker. For me, good players in just those three positions will make a massive difference to this team.

Spot on col city. Those are the three areas where we show the most weakness. The problem is where do we get players of top standard in January ? Who would want to come to a club with our reputation of sacking managers and fans booing at the end of a home draw.Like the rest on here I love my club but sometimes I have to be objective and look at us as others do and at the moment I would say ( in objective mode ) that we will finish the season in mid table. There are simply too many better sides above us who are over all more consistent and better balanced than us. I just hope that our owners see it that way and give Nigel a full season next year with his own signings and a bit of patience.

[seenitall]

This is where you confuse me? Have you been drinking?

Let me make it clear on the players you have

mentioned.

Beckford... You may love him and want his babies but I always thought he would be an average signing at best ( see many of my posts when we signed him)

Sven... A mercenary... And amazingly appears to have taken the club backwards.

Wellens... Still our best midfielder, but looks past his best.

Gally... Frustrating player, but can be excellent

Bamba... IMO our best player.

Pearson... Will change things around as soon as he can.. Can motivate this club into a play off

place

Nothing here I've said I've not said before..

You read my posts and stop spouting nonsense all the time.

And you did say Wellens has NEVER performed above League 1 level... You are even forgetting what you yourself wrote you twat!

Not forgetting at all - homophobic, resorting to personal insults and all because you are constantly wrong about things - of course Wellens cut it for us in League 1, he looked the part - he even does OK sometimes against the Doncasters and Millwall level teams but this is now starting to elude him also. How many games Pearson will get judging by Tops sad little face yesterday? Sven had 13 games with his new team - you forget he kept us from disappearing last season with a very poor side that Pearson and Sousa had put together. This season he had 13 games to blend a new side together, a tough task which he was judged at 1 point off the play offs and a poor home result to have failed in (despite winning the game before that) - now we have our saviour back and plenty of the his old team playing - to the point yesterday where Howard came on that it very much resembled his team in midfield and up front that he played with 18 months ago. Let's give Nige 8 more games and see whether we are all happy - he has only dropped 7 points so far, although we were more interested in how poorly we played under Sven. The mercenary jibe is quite hilarious bearing in mind Nige's alleged bloated salary that enticed him to leave Hull - if you want to believe that he loves Leicester more than money then carry on..........

And then your lame attack on the player comments - we will never agree on Beckford (but without a proper midfield we will never know if he can cut it or not will we). Gally and Wellens even you don't sound convinced about and it does rather fly in the face of your own pompous spouting on squad players on here - if they can't cut it then move em on eh? Bamba - is an excellent player but plays better with Mills than anyone else this is statistically true but go ahead and argue anyway (while throwing insults around for good measure) - he dropped Mills in it last week and looked anything but great yesterday.

You should be happy now - or will that only be achieved when Fryatt comes back and NP starts with Howard and Fryatt up front, Gally, Dyer, King and Wellens mid and drops Kasper for Weale and gets Hobbs and Tunch back in the side- we had a chance to build a new future, Top panicked too early and now we will fade badly IMO - and that's all it is Col, doesn't make me gay or a twat any more than you having your head up Nigel and Top's bottoms makes you gay or a twat (probably)

[Happy Fox]

Spot on col city. Those are the three areas where we show the most weakness. The problem is where do we get players of top standard in January ? Who would want to come to a club with our reputation of sacking managers and fans booing at the end of a home draw.Like the rest on here I love my club but sometimes I have to be objective and look at us as others do and at the moment I would say ( in objective mode ) that we will finish the season in mid table. There are simply too many better sides above us who are over all more consistent and better balanced than us. I just hope that our owners see it that way and give Nigel a full season next year with his own signings and a bit of patience.

The emphasis is on promotion this season we haven't got time to faffing about in this division much longer. I agree with the sentiments you share but for the Thais they demand promotion this season.I don't know if anyone has taken this in to consideration but perhaps FFP will have an impact on us.

[Guest Col city fan]

Spot on col city. Those are the three areas where we show the most weakness. The problem is where do we get players of top standard in

January ? Who would want to come to a club with our reputation of sacking managers and fans booing at the end of a home draw.Like the rest on here I love my club but sometimes I have to be objective and look at us as others do and at the moment I would say ( in objective mode ) that we will finish the season in mid table. There are

simply too many better sides above us who are over all more consistent and better balanced than us. I just hope that our owners see it that way and give Nigel a full season next year with his own signings and a bit of patience.

Possibly the best post I've seen you made mate.

I agree with all of it..

[Guest Col city fan]

Not forgetting at all - homophobic, resorting to personal insults and all because you are constantly wrong about things - of course Wellens cut it for us in League 1, he looked the part - he even does OK sometimes against the Doncasters and Millwall level teams but this is now starting to elude him also. How many games Pearson will get judging by Tops sad little face yesterday? Sven had 13 games with his new team - you

forget he kept us from disappearing last season with a very poor side that Pearson and Sousa had put together. This season he had 13 games to blend a new side together, a tough task which he was judged at 1 point off the play offs and a poor home result to have failed in (despite winning the game before that) - now we have our saviour

back and plenty of the his old team playing - to the point yesterday where Howard came on that it very much resembled his team in midfield and up front that he played with 18 months ago. Let's give Nige 8 more games and see whether we are all happy - he has only dropped 7 points so far, although we were more interested in how poorly

we played under Sven. The mercenary jibe is quite hilarious bearing in mind Nige's alleged bloated salary that enticed him to leave Hull - if you want to believe that he loves Leicester more than money then carry on..........

And then your lame attack on the player

comments - we will never agree on Beckford (but without a proper midfield we will never know if he can cut it or not will we). Gally and Wellens even you don't sound convinced about and it does rather fly in the face of your own pompous spouting on squad players on here - if they can't cut it then move em on eh? Bamba - is an

excellent player but plays better with Mills than anyone else this is statistically true but go ahead and argue anyway (while throwing insults around for good measure) - he dropped Mills in it last week and looked anything but great yesterday.

You should be happy now - or will that only be achieved when Fryatt comes back and NP starts with Howard and Fryatt up front, Gally, Dyer, King and Wellens mid and drops Kasper for Weale and gets Hobbs and Tunch back in the side- we had a chance to build a new future, Top panicked too

early and now we will fade badly IMO - and that's all it is Col, doesn't make me gay or a twat any more than you having your head up Nigel and Top's bottoms makes you gay or a twat (probably)

You sound like your ranting to be honest..

We will just have to agree to disagree pal

I have far more faith in Nige to take us up than I ever did in Sven, that's true, but it seems like Nige has more work to do than certainly I, thought...

Sven has left us in a right old pickle to be fair..

Or so it would seem at present.

And, in Beckford, is a return of 3 goals this season sufficient for you? Or are you another one waiting for him to 'come good'? I fear you'll have a long wait.

[flowwolf]

Possibly the best post I've seen you made mate.

I agree with all of it..

Yes well I've decided to grow up a bit ! :thumbup: :thumbup:

[Thracian]

Well December's "we can win em all" claimants must be feeling subdued already. Just winning one or two would be a start! It's not that big winning streaks are impossible, it's just that there's absolutely no evidence on the pitch that we're likely to go on such a run. We still haven't had two wins on the trot this season and it's nearly Christmas.

Quite apart from the fact we're a side lacking far too many ingredients to be consistent people ignore the impact caused by yet another managerial upheaval. Yes, there's invariably a bit of a lift when a manager arrives with people all trying especially hard to impress. But a few weeks in those same players will be getting the message as to whether they're wanted or not. Like now!

Okay, Pearson's not done a holloway and publicly alienated people with his frankness but some players will already know they're likely to be on the periphery at best and this won't help the underlying atmosphere. Neither will the uncertainty help with cohesion on the pitch.

And the thing that worries me most about Pearson, and always has, is that so many matches are likely to be close. There are not many bad sides in the Championship and, against respectable sides, Pearson never strikes me as the sort of manager who will squander a one-goal lead for the sake of chasing a another goal.

He goes into protection mode and that's quite pronounced within a system where we defend from deep in any case. As time goes on and tension grows the opposition are able to throw more men forward and threaten an equaliser.

Sooner or later that philosophy will have to change because we've just not got good enough players to soak up endless pressure.

We are not a top-of-the-Premiership side. Our defenders always make mistakes. The sooner we try to impose ourselves as a team for 90 minutes the better. Defending is better done by trying to keep the ball at the other end, trying to score again and trying to break the opposition's resistance.

Just like Kasper in our goal, we need to be positive. Not for 25 minutes like yesterday. But for 90.

[look_back_in_amber]

A clown dawns. If you haven't noticed nobody is agreeing with him.

You should realise that Barmby's only in a honeymoon period, you only have to listen to him to see that he's thick.

Honeymoon period eh? NP's honeymoon period doesn't seem to be going so well does it?

Thick? LMAO, oh yeah he's that thick that his tactics have just won three on the bounce, when was the last time Lester did that, how many manager's ago?

[JadeFalcon]

i'm still pissed this morning after watching that shower yesterday, something is definetly wrong when we dominate like that in the first 20 or so minutes and cant win a match.... FFS that match SHOULD have been over in the first 10 minutes. am really starting to get fed up with our strikers... IMHO we should get shot of beckford for all his speil when he signed, he hasnt shown me he has got anything more in him than a league 1 striker. he's the same as fryatt a walking ego that cant shoot for shit, if he were as good as he leads us to believe then i expect atleast ONE goal from him in 90 minutes against a shitty team like that.

also sol needs a talking to after those ****ups yesterday

and TBH i dont care wether people agree with me or not, i NEED to vent after that match yesterday cause its still biting me in the ass this morning

-=edit=- and no i'm not trying to make beckford a scapegoat, but against teams like that with the possession we had in the first 20 mins i ****ing EXPECT a goal, plain and simple

[sphericalfox]

Well December's "we can win em all" claimants must be feeling subdued already. Just winning one or two would be a start! It's not that big winning streaks are impossible, it's just that there's absolutely no evidence on the pitch that we're likely to go on such a run. We still haven't had two wins on the trot this season and it's nearly Christmas.

Quite apart from the fact we're a side lacking far too many ingredients to be consistent people ignore the impact caused by yet another managerial upheaval. Yes, there's invariably a bit of a lift when a manager arrives with people all trying especially hard to impress. But a few weeks in those same players will be getting the message as to whether they're wanted or not. Like now!

Okay, Pearson's not done a holloway and publicly alienated people with his frankness but some players will already know they're likely to be on the periphery at best and this won't help the underlying atmosphere. Neither will the uncertainty help with cohesion on the pitch.

And the thing that worries me most about Pearson, and always has, is that so many matches are likely to be close. There are not many bad sides in the Championship and, against respectable sides, Pearson never strikes me as the sort of manager who will squander a one-goal lead for the sake of chasing a another goal.

He goes into protection mode and that's quite pronounced within a system where we defend from deep in any case. As time goes on and tension grows the opposition are able to throw more men forward and threaten an equaliser.

Sooner or later that philosophy will have to change because we've just not got good enough players to soak up endless pressure.

We are not a top-of-the-Premiership side. Our defenders always make mistakes. The sooner we try to impose ourselves as a team for 90 minutes the better. Defending is better done by trying to keep the ball at the other end, trying to score again and trying to break the opposition's resistance.

Just like Kasper in our goal, we need to be positive. Not for 25 minutes like yesterday. But for 90.

Why is it that I am agreeing with you Thracian, but I am. I knew when we scored that inevitably we would concede, however, I saw it slightly differently, as I think we did try to push for a second, and felt that Dyer and Gally and the midfield were pushing too far up leaving us exposed, and the Posh always seem to score with abandon in the second half with balls to it attitude.

[Happy Fox]

Honeymoon period eh? NP's honeymoon period doesn't seem to be going so well does it?

Thick? LMAO, oh yeah he's that thick that his tactics have just won three on the bounce, when was the last time Lester did that, how many manager's ago?

The reason Pearson left your shit excuse of a club is because he felt with the finances at his disposal here he could get the players he wants and the ambition of our club is greater than yours sorry to put it so bluntly.

[accessory]

Doncaster (A),

Ipswich (H),

Portsmouth (H)

9 points from that lot or forget about promotion and probably the play off's. That's the bread and butter of this league. Even so I fancy us to get the points

As for today I know everyone expected 3 points including myself but Peterborough aren't as bad an outfit as they were the last time they came up, there's a lot of teams who'll be in around the promotion spots at the end of the season will drop points to them this season. Yeah it's a blip, did I expect three points? Absolutely. Am I happy with the way the team played? Reasonably happy with the effort from the team. Will you take the point? Yes I will, for the simple reason when they scored you can't just go gung ho because of what there capable of. One of the highest scorers in the league the last thing I would have wanted to see was us go all out for the three points and end up losing it in a 5-4 in the 94th minute because that's how they've got the majority of there points this year. We'll pick up the wins to be there or there abouts this year just gotta pick your opponents and Peterborough are not a side I'd like to take on in a goal brawl

What planet have you been on? This team can't even win two games in a row, let alone three.

And why should we NOT expect to beat Peterborough at home? They're exactly the type of tinpot side we should be eating for breakfast. The fact we couldn't finish them off should disturb us all, especially the manager who is being paid a fortune to turn this mess around.

[Guest Col city fan]

Well December's "we can win em all" claimants must be feeling subdued already. Just winning one or two would be a start! It's not that big winning streaks are impossible, it's just that there's absolutely no evidence on the pitch that

we're likely to go on such a run. We still haven't had two wins on the trot this season and it's nearly Christmas.

Quite apart from the fact we're a side lacking far too many ingredients to be consistent people ignore the impact caused by yet another

managerial upheaval. Yes, there's invariably a bit of a lift when a manager arrives with people all trying especially hard to impress. But a few weeks in those same players will be getting the message as to whether they're wanted or not. Like now!

Okay, Pearson's not done a holloway and publicly alienated people with his frankness but some

players will already know they're likely to be on the periphery at best and this won't help the underlying atmosphere. Neither will the uncertainty help with cohesion on the pitch.

And the thing that worries me most about Pearson, and always has, is that so many

matches are likely to be close. There are not many bad sides in the Championship and, against respectable sides, Pearson never strikes me as the sort of manager who will squander a one-goal lead for the sake of chasing a another goal.

He goes into protection mode and that's quite

pronounced within a system where we defend from deep in any case. As time goes on and tension grows the opposition are able to throw more men forward and threaten an equaliser.

Sooner or later that philosophy will have to change because we've just not got good enough

players to soak up endless pressure.

We are not a top-of-the-Premiership side. Our defenders always make mistakes. The sooner we try to impose ourselves as a team for 90 minutes the better. Defending is better done by trying to keep the ball at the other end, trying to score

again and trying to break the opposition's resistance.

Just like Kasper in our goal, we need to be positive. Not for 25 minutes like yesterday. But for 90.

Said it a fortnight ago... One game at a time. There is no point in making rash predictions until Nige has put his own stamp on the squad.

Sometimes the optimists are as ridiculous as the pessimists.