Mission Unlikely Promotion Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Medium term i think, looking forward to Nigel's January bargain buys to shoot us up the table
seenitall Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Blame the board for NP appointment, i have never been an admirer of NPs football and i did not particular want him back,it would have been M.Hughes or A.Curbishly for me. So step forward the selection board. Top - knows more about cameras than football. S.Whelen- expert on supermarkets. A.Neville- aint got a clue about f--k all Agree - we're going nowhere with these owners - the fact we all think they will boot Nige out if he doesn't get us up (!!!!!) says it all - 13 managers 11 years no success
iamafox Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Personally, I don't think there's anybody out there who can do better than the squad that NP is working with at the moment. We cannot afford to panic buy again in January and as NP said before, he won't sign players just for the sake of it, he will sign players that will improve certain areas of the team and he will sign players that are better than what we have already.
Len Finsbury Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 I think the whole club changed with the appointment of Sven but quickly returned once NFP was appointed. Still.. at least the sacrifice of flair and entertainment for better results is paying off. ...oh, wait a minute.
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Still.. at least the sacrifice of flair and entertainment for better results is paying off. Remind me of when we had flair and entertainment under Sven? Was it the 3-0 home defeat to Millwall? Performances are poor at the moment, but they have been all season. Lets not make Svens time out to be something it wasn't.
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 NGP - 28% SGE - 43% PS - 33% And... and...., we are playing SH1T football Doesn't really show anything until Pearson has had a summer with the squad and a transfer window like those guys did.
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 The biggest stench in the dressing room comes from certain players NOT bought by Sven. But as they're Pearson's favourites he'll stay loyal to them. Seriously change the record, you have no facts to back anything up. There is no need to keep peddling this stuff until you can actually prove it.
seenitall Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 It's a good theory though and as we can't talk about the football (its too crap) the owners (don't want to upset them) old managers (got to get over it) new manager (not his fault) Wellens (boring) King (not worth it) Beckford (unless we slag him off) cheap speculation does liven up a non match day a bit
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 It's a good theory though and as we can't talk about the football (its too crap) the owners (don't want to upset them) old managers (got to get over it) new manager (not his fault) Wellens (boring) King (not worth it) Beckford (unless we slag him off) cheap speculation does liven up a non match day a bit Its a shite theory and as for the rest of your post: 1. We are always talking about the football - discussing the best tactics, formations etc.. 2. There are many many posts about the Owners.... being too impatient, sacking Sven too soon etc.. 3. YOU are constantly droning on about previous managers, especially your strange love affair with Sven 4. There are as many critical posts about Pearson as their are positive ones 5. Wellens has been murdered on here..the threads on Wellens have been many and anything but boring. Hell, I've not seen as much vitriol on this forum for one of our own players ever 6. The posts on Beckford are generally split..as many people rate him as don't 7. Thrac started an excellent thread on King only a couple of days ago You need to get over Sven..what's done is done, actually read the posts that are made (which are generally pretty balanced) and perhaps offer some ideas as to how to take the team forward. Basically your posts are always about how we shouldnt have sacked Sven.. we did, get over it and move on... I doubt you'll listen though...you really do seem to have a strange affection for Sven - I genuinely wonder whether you are related to him?
seenitall Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Best way to take the club forward? Stability in the ownership, management and players - support of the fans for the team and the players when the going gets tough, not booing at games, removing the shit too loud sound system that kills the atmosphere, retaining a sense of humour on message boards and refraining from personal insults, setting some realistic goals to achieve (such as play off place), the board not knee jerking to a few whining fans on message boards and RL and panicking, accepting that even with millions you don't get anywhere without time. When a great cub like Leicester makes a huge mistake by giving someone 10m to spend then knee jerk firing them after 13 games when they are well placed, it does take some getting over - I have grave doubts about our current owners and board and would like to express those doubts on this forum. If I am wrong about them, then I win anyway because they will do a great job, if I am wrong - holy shit we are in the crap - I am unimpressed so far as nothing has improved since Mandaric's tenure. Try and lighten up Col - booting Sven out was a huge mistake - managers usually get fired for dismal runs and we were not on one of those - it showed inexperience and lack of football knowledge from the board, much as Venky's and big Sam over at Blackburn - they screwed up too - berating a player like Beckford because the club is in disarray shows lack of football knowledge too - you should be more concerned that quality players at this level don't perform for Leicester rather than moaning about them - the list of players who leave us to perform better elsewhere is alarming, including Nige sending DJ away to help Blackpool take our promotion spot a couple of years ago. My affection is not for Sven, I will feel the same way if Nige gets a year or less to turn things around - no good will come of this constant chopping and changing
Corky Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Doesn't really show anything until Pearson has had a summer with the squad and a transfer window like those guys did. Also, Pearson's are all league games whilst Sousa's are sweetened by the Carling Cup. If it was based on league games Sousa's would be 11%.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Best way to take the club forward? Stability in the ownership, management and players - support of the fans for the team and the players when the going gets tough, not booing at games, removing the shit too loud sound system that kills the atmosphere, retaining a sense of humour on message boards and refraining from personal insults, setting some realistic goals to achieve (such as play off place), the board not knee jerking to a few whining fans on message boards and RL and panicking, accepting that even with millions you don't get anywhere without time. When a great cub like Leicester makes a huge mistake by giving someone 10m to spend then knee jerk firing them after 13 games when they are well placed, it does take some getting over - I have grave doubts about our current owners and board and would like to express those doubts on this forum. If I am wrong about them, then I win anyway because they will do a great job, if I am wrong - holy shit we are in the crap - I am unimpressed so far as nothing has improved since Mandaric's tenure. Try and lighten up Col - booting Sven out was a huge mistake - managers usually get fired for dismal runs and we were not on one of those - it showed inexperience and lack of football knowledge from the board, much as Venky's and big Sam over at Blackburn - they screwed up too - berating a player like Beckford because the club is in disarray shows lack of football knowledge too - you should be more concerned that quality players at this level don't perform for Leicester rather than moaning about them - the list of players who leave us to perform better elsewhere is alarming, including Nige sending DJ away to help Blackpool take our promotion spot a couple of years ago. My affection is not for Sven, I will feel the same way if Nige gets a year or less to turn things around - no good will come of this constant chopping and changing Good post... for the first time I find myself agreeing with you, to some extent. You could even be right about Beckford..and...take note :xmassmile: I hope you are right. Although I've seen little in him to suggest the quality you mentioned, I would love it to be proven wrong because first and foremost I'm a City fan With regards to 'lighten up'..ditto mate
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 If it was based on league games Sousa's would be 11%. Ouch...
accessory Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Best way to take the club forward? Stability in the ownership, management and players - support of the fans for the team and the players when the going gets tough, not booing at games, removing the shit too loud sound system that kills the atmosphere, retaining a sense of humour on message boards and refraining from personal insults, setting some realistic goals to achieve (such as play off place), the board not knee jerking to a few whining fans on message boards and RL and panicking, accepting that even with millions you don't get anywhere without time. The fans, on boards like this, have indeed played a part in getting rid of inept managers such as Sousa and Holloway. But we weren't the ones who did for Sven. Certain members of the squad played a far bigger role in his departure. When a great cub like Leicester makes a huge mistake by giving someone 10m to spend then knee jerk firing them after 13 games when they are well placed, it does take some getting over - I have grave doubts about our current owners and board and would like to express those doubts on this forum. If I am wrong about them, then I win anyway because they will do a great job, if I am wrong - holy shit we are in the crap - I am unimpressed so far as nothing has improved since Mandaric's tenure. We spent years dreaming of large-scale investment in the squad. King Power provided it - but made the error of entrusting their millions to a manager with VERY limited direct experience of English club football. Sven's time with us may have aroused interest in Asia, but didn't bring us any closer to promotion. Try and lighten up Col - booting Sven out was a huge mistake - managers usually get fired for dismal runs and we were not on one of those - it showed inexperience and lack of football knowledge from the board, much as Venky's and big Sam over at Blackburn - they screwed up too - berating a player like Beckford because the club is in disarray shows lack of football knowledge too - you should be more concerned that quality players at this level don't perform for Leicester rather than moaning about them - the list of players who leave us to perform better elsewhere is alarming, including Nige sending DJ away to help Blackpool take our promotion spot a couple of years ago. The mistake wasn't in sacking Sven but appointing him in the first place. He'd been living on past glories for too long. And his judgement of players was as bad as any City manager in the past decade. My affection is not for Sven, I will feel the same way if Nige gets a year or less to turn things around - no good will come of this constant chopping and changing The year Sven had in charge was hardly a glorious chapter in our history and no-one should try and imply otherwise. He deserved to go and we should move on. But we won't do that if Pearson appears intent on repeating the errors that Sven made, including persistence with clapped-out deadwood.
seenitall Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 I almost agree, but I do think Sven did a good job last season turning Sousas mess into a late play off attempt. This season it was too early to judge. We saw a very solid defensive run and a couple of good displays in front of goal, he also never got time to play his chosen team for more than a couple of games due to Nugents injury and Mills suspension, so we'll never know if he had it right or not, which for me is the sad thing. Millwall was poor and building a new team will always be fraught with occasional lapses but getting fired after 2 defeats in 10 games, including an immediate bounce back after Birmingham, seems like a crappy and petty thing to do. This is what worries me about the club now, I think if any club needed a Director of football, which is a horrible term, we do, as the board seems naive and unrealistic about what it takes to actually run a football club
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Certain members of the squad played a far bigger role in his departure. I suggest you start to offer proof of this.
accessory Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 I suggest you start to offer proof of this. I suggest you study the posts that appeared during the days after the Millwall match. The manager had clearly lost the dressing room and his position was untenable. The fans had very little role, if any, in the process.
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 I suggest you study the posts that appeared during the days after the Millwall match. The manager had clearly lost the dressing room and his position was untenable. The fans had very little role, if any, in the process. Rumours do not equal proof. Your constant sniping at people about this is repetitive and boring.
seenitall Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Rumours do not equal proof. Your constant sniping at people about this is repetitive and boring. Does anyone do anything else on this message board (doesn't bother me by the way, it's all part of the fun)?
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Does anyone do anything else on this message board? Yes, some people manage to discuss things without needing to resort to rumours.
accessory Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Rumours do not equal proof. Your constant sniping at people about this is repetitive and boring. Stop hiding behind your status and try and construct a reasoned counter-argument. If we wanted to read a defence of failing managers/players we'd stick with the Mockery.
ithuriel Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 But it is true though, most of what we have to go on are rumour, the Mockery and the occasional truth from insider's :xmasunsure: plus what we witness on a match day . This is why no one should latch onto any one thing or become obsessive about thing's though we can all air opinion or educated guesses :xmaslaugh: For all we know Abe was brought over to join Wellens in fighting a demonic presence in the dressing room shower's that has already claimed victims, no one as seen Moussa in ages :xmasohmy: , or maybe i read too much Richard Layman :xmaslaugh:
Babylon Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Stop hiding behind your status and try and construct a reasoned counter-argument. If we wanted to read a defence of failing managers/players we'd stick with the Mockery. A counter argument to rumours mostly off Bentleys roof? How exactly do you offer counter arguments when there are NO facts to base anything on? If I want to read made up stuff I'll read the sun. Mentioning rumours is one thing, basing your whole argument on it (in almost every thread) is another.
5waller5 Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 That last page or so is EXACTLY the reason for me while Pearson is NOT the answer. The rumours are boring, the team is boring, the football is boring, the threads are becoming boring.... there's simply nothing to be excited about whilst he's in charge .... I didn't mind losing too much under Sven because you knew he'd give an honest and open assessment of the game and you knew he was trying to play entertaining football... There is nothing entertaining about Pearson apart from to bicker what Wellens has done to get in the side again.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 a couple of signings in January and you never know . . . . . . . . fingers crossed
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