cecchini Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 in My personal opinion, Mr Pearson has yet to prove that he can build a squad of players, turn them into a team and then do battle at the highest level with some element of success. Recent results speak for themselves (losing to Peterborough especially). Again in my opinion a good manager should be able to analyse whats going on during a game and react to it, in watching some recent games all i see is a lack of ideas or strategy to break down teams that seem to want to shut us out.... Having said that I feel that NP could be an excellent manager for us, I agree that he needs to be allowed time to develop his strategies, squad and team but he must get them fighting for each other and the club rather that fighting with each other and the club. time will tell. BTW the fat lady ain't singing yet. Until its mathematically impossible to get to the play offs, it remains possible. Unlikely, but possible. stranger things have happened! Up the City!
reynard Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Nugent was a laughing stock at Pompey even to his own fans. Beckfords contribution to Everton is up for debate (rumoured falling out and quickly sold). Konchesky has been decent and been proven so fair enough on that one. Mills may have been in the playoffs, but has what the Reading fans said not been 100% accurate about him? Morgan Fair enough, Wellens, Dyer, gallagher and Howard get absolutely slated on here by all and sundry for being either not good enough for past is. I don't disagree with what you're saying. Really I felt it inaccurate to say they had "never" played at top championship clubs. The fact they have largely been poor for us is another debate.
PegguyArphexad Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 I don't understand how quickly football has decayed into a such a reactionary, shit or bust industry. How anyone thinks yet another manager change would be a good thing is beyond me! Pearson is a good manager. Give him time and get behind him. I don't understand why Leicester has negativity in its core that constantly breeds through the fans. Are all clubs like this?
ibbosuk Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 I agree. There has been no improvement on or off the pitch under Pearson, which is a prerequisite for him to be kept on. He just has not done enough to be kept on for next season. Step forward Mick McCarthy... You would be if your job was potentially on the line. Repeating the same the old things all the time "I will get it right" ( classic NP thrase).. There is a lot of hard work to be done"( hard work my ass if performances on the pitch have anything to go by) "we are going to try and win the next 6 games" ( we have only one two games in a row once) etc I am quite frankly tired of these excuses he is making, as Finners said the dreaded vote of confidence is soon approaching. You would be if your job was potentially on the line. Repeating the same the old things all the time "I will get it right" ( classic NP thrase).. There is a lot of hard work to be done"( hard work my ass if performances on the pitch have anything to go by) "we are going to try and win the next 6 games" ( we have only one two games in a row once) etc I am quite frankly tired of these excuses he is making, as Finners said the dreaded vote of confidence is soon approaching.
PegguyArphexad Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 I agree. There has been no improvement on or off the pitch under Pearson, which is a prerequisite for him to be kept on. He just has not done enough to be kept on for next season. Step forward Mick McCarthy... In a few months? As they say Rome was not built in a day. Pearson inherited a squad which clearly has/had/does have issues. If in another 12 months time we are in no way improved, then and only then, we should maybe reassess the situation. A continual production line of homogeneous championship level managers will not do it.
Earl Shilton Lee Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Fully agree with this, maybe the underlying problem is that Sven, despite his numerous changes hand to rely on some of Pearson's players and like wise with Pearson when it is clearly the case that the two managers and the players they signed are worlds apart in the football philosophy, tactics, management style etc they are the Chalk and Cheese of football managers. As I've said before the Thai's need to decide the style of football they want the club to adopt, have a manager they believe will deliver that and make sure it's adopted at every level of the club, if the manager then leaves, hopefully because he's been successful then replace him with a clone in football management terms. Frankly as James. posted we need a clear strategy for both the business side and the playing side of the club. Of course this only works if they are intent on being he for a long time. I agree with this entirely. When Swansea were nearly relegated from the Football League those running the club decided to embrace a particular philosophy of football. They've done pretty well out of it, I'd say. Of course Swansea were fortunate to have people who understand the game running the club. And the fans trust have a 20% stake as I understand it. It's a model well worth following and goes to show that success doesn't have to be bought. On your last point, I am getting more worried by the day that the Thais are going to leave us in the lurch. People say a lot that they are smart businessmen, that they have too much tied up in the club to just up and leave. Well, I say smart businessmen know when to cut their losses. They came here pretending to be Leicester supporters but really wanting quick promotion so that they could line their pockets. They're probably not going to get that, so why stick around only to pump more money in?
Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 I agree. There has been no improvement on or off the pitch under Pearson, which is a prerequisite for him to be kept on. He just has not done enough to be kept on for next season. Step forward Mick McCarthy... Tbh it all depends on the owners at the end of the day and we haven't heard a wink from them, they haven't defended the financial accounts and their is talk that they may be on the move, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they did because their investment or what not hasn't paid off. At the end of the day we all want our team to be a success and in the premiership but if we have to adopt a different strategy going forward and by that I mean building a team with NP at the helm or any other manager then so be it.
Babylon Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 True, but I don't think they would be that hasty in their judgement about the ownership issues because that topic is a concern to us all. Ha you are kidding, this is bentleys. I've seen more false rumours posted on there than on here. And from from I can see it comes from one bloke who heard a Derby director say "this Summer could be very interesting at Leicester", that could mean anythingl.
Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Actually thinking about it I have to trust NP, now trust is something I am going to have to do because their really isn't any other alternative, I think he will get it right provided he does all the things i hope he implements gets rid of the deadwood (Wellens etc) the high earners who don't get a game ( Mills, Pantsil) sticks to a formation that works 4-4-2 at home and when we get the personnel to play a 4-3-3 effectively than we can play that formation away from home.
carlhltid Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 You would be if your job was potentially on the line. Repeating the same the old things all the time "I will get it right" ( classic NP thrase).. There is a lot of hard work to be done"( hard work my ass if performances on the pitch have anything to go by) "we are going to try and win the next 6 games" ( we have only one two games in a row once) etc I am quite frankly tired of these excuses he is making, as Finners said the dreaded vote of confidence is soon approaching. i think they will get rid
Raw Dykes Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Actually thinking about it I have to trust NP, now trust is something I am going to have to do because their really isn't any other alternative, I think he will get it right provided he does all the things i hope he implements gets rid of the deadwood (Wellens etc) the high earners who don't get a game ( Mills, Pantsil) sticks to a formation that works 4-4-2 at home and when we get the personnel to play a 4-3-3 effectively than we can play that formation away from home. Has your account been hacked, Happy? If not, don't worry, I'm sure we'll see NP make the right changes in the summer if he gets the chance.
Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Has your account been hacked, Happy? No its me , I am just going to have to bite the bullet and accept these mediocre performances until the end of the season as much as it pains me, then the summer whoray where I hope NP can make the necessary changes and which will see us challenging for promotion next season. If not, don't worry, I'm sure we'll see NP make the right changes in the summer if he gets the chance.
hackneyfox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 From Tartan on Bentleys, and he generally does have reasonable info: I have fairly regular contact with a couple of mates (and ex-colleagues) who are also ex-colleagues of people down at the KP. The pressure is ramping up, lots of heads are on the block at the minute and it's not a nice environment by all accounts. Do not be surprised if there is a huge clear out in the summer and no amount of local media or cyber wailing will change their minds. Once bitten and all that.
Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 From Tartan on Bentleys, and he generally does have reasonable info: I have fairly regular contact with a couple of mates (and ex-colleagues) who are also ex-colleagues of people down at the KP. The pressure is ramping up, lots of heads are on the block at the minute and it's not a nice environment by all accounts. Do not be surprised if there is a huge clear out in the summer and no amount of local media or cyber wailing will change their minds. Once bitten and all that. I don't quite understand what he means by that clear out of the players or the management?
Babylon Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 From Tartan on Bentleys, and he generally does have reasonable info: I have fairly regular contact with a couple of mates (and ex-colleagues) who are also ex-colleagues of people down at the KP. The pressure is ramping up, lots of heads are on the block at the minute and it's not a nice environment by all accounts. Do not be surprised if there is a huge clear out in the summer and no amount of local media or cyber wailing will change their minds. Once bitten and all that. More agenda riddled stuff from Bentleys.
Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 More from Tartan off Bentleys quite interesting what he says taking with a pinch of salt of course They came and could have made sweeping changes from the offset and got everyone's back up straight away. The didn't, the made the quick changes first, improved the customer experience (not the one on the pitch I know), re branded etc... Invested in the team and when it wasn't working they changed it. In a bid to keep 'onside' they listened to those they may have felt had their finger on what the fans wanted and made a new appointment. What they didn't account for is fans are fickle, cheer one minute boo the next and are only ever happy when we are winning. They've tried to do it nicely and it hasn't worked out at all and those that served up self serving advise may have just done themselves more harm than good.
hackneyfox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Any more of an agenda than your continued defense of NFP? Do you know Tartan's employment history? Thers are football discussion boards, why continually question those who don't agree with your opinion of NFP? If only known facts were allowed you wouldn't have much to administer.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 I don't quite understand what he means by that clear out of the players or the management? My impression is that he means both.
Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 My impression is that he means both. Well if what he says is true, then the summer will be quite a hectic period.
Tielemans63 Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 From Tartan on Bentleys, and he generally does have reasonable info: I have fairly regular contact with a couple of mates (and ex-colleagues) who are also ex-colleagues of people down at the KP. The pressure is ramping up, lots of heads are on the block at the minute and it's not a nice environment by all accounts. Do not be surprised if there is a huge clear out in the summer and no amount of local media or cyber wailing will change their minds. Once bitten and all that. I get the feeling it's been like that more or less all season. Let's be honest there has never looked to be a particularly strong team-spirit among the squad. Whether people would like NP gone isn't really the issue because the next manager will inherit a dysfunctional and unsettled squad whatever happens. To think that after all the optimism pre-season and the exciting signings, we need a 'clearout' just 9 months later.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Whatever happens, quite a few players are going to be leaving this summer.
hackneyfox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 I don't quite understand what he means by that clear out of the players or the management? Let's hope the owners don't start deciding which players are leaving, unless Sven & NFP have given them lists which match. Let's get a new top level management team in place before making decisions about players or manager. Who helped make the decision of NFP? Stowell and Wellens?
stourbridgefox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Much as I liked the idea of Andrew Neville he does seem to have capitulated to the demands of players last summer, leaving us with a huge wage bill for mediocre players. Maybe the owners will import more staff from King Power and run things their way? Has Susan Whelan done anything wrong?
Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Let's hope the owners don't start deciding which players are leaving, unless Sven & NFP have given them lists which match. Let's get a new top level management team in place before making decisions about players or manager. Who helped make the decision of NFP? Stowell and Wellens? This is all hypothetical though we don't know for sure what will happen this summer, the Thais won't leave or will they? no one knows only the owners do. With regards to NP I cannot be certain that it was the Thais who wanted him it was probably senior board members/advisers who advocated for his return.
Babylon Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Any more of an agenda than your continued defense of NFP? Well I'm not claiming to be ITK to stir things up. And I'm not the one who had the knives out before I ball was even kicked. Do you know Tartan's employment history? Do you know mine? Thers are football discussion boards, why continually question those who don't agree with your opinion of NFP? You've answered your own question, it's a discussion board. Do you want believe people should believe everything that's written without question? If you want to that's fine, but i've seen enough clap trap from "ITK's" on there to last a lifetime. If only known facts were allowed you wouldn't have much to administer. Nonsense.
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