Guest Col city fan Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 I think it's a real stretch of credibility to suggest a player with 'bit part' experience in the Prem could be called 'high profile. My point is therefore still valid in my opinion. All depends upon your definition of the term I guess. If you don't consider Jermaine to be 'high profile' then I doubt will we sign any 'high profile' players. For me, he's the highest profile player we have at City. Would you consider Heskey to be high profile? If so, I'm sure Pearson could have managed him without a problem. I think it's the individual player that is the issue, in terms of their ability, their temperament etc... Not necessarily whether they are 'high profile' or not. For example, I reckon Steve Keane will be able to manage Danny Murphy at Blackburn without too much trouble? He would have more of a problem if it was Joey Barton...
artursteppe Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 All depends upon your definition of the term I guess. If you don't consider Jermaine to be 'high profile' then I doubt will we sign any 'high profile' players. For me, he's the highest profile player we have at City. Would you consider Heskey to be high profile? If so, I'm sure Pearson could have managed him without a problem. I think it's the individual player that is the issue, in terms of their ability, their temperament etc... Not necessarily whether they are 'high profile' or not. For example, I reckon Steve Keane will be able to manage Danny Murphy at Blackburn without too much trouble? He would have more of a problem if it was Joey Barton... All depends upon your definition of the term I guess. If you don't consider Jermaine to be 'high profile' then I doubt will we sign any 'high profile' players. For me, he's the highest profile player we have at City. Would you consider Heskey to be high profile? If so, I'm sure Pearson could have managed him without a problem. I think it's the individual player that is the issue, in terms of their ability, their temperament etc... Not necessarily whether they are 'high profile' or not. For example, I reckon Steve Keane will be able to manage Danny Murphy at Blackburn without too much trouble? He would have more of a problem if it was Joey Barton... I was simply saying that I am not aware of NP ever having managed any 'high profile' players. Heskey is obviously high profile, Beckford ( an ex reserve team player for Everton ) is not.Any interpretation of NP and his reasons for this may well be valid. It could be a lack of confidence in his own ability to handle such people, or it may not. He may have what one might term a 'village' mentality, he may not. There can be little doubt however that he seems to prefer players who are not high profile, for whatever reasons. One question that comes from all of this must be, that if a real quality 'high profile' player at real value in financial terms be available to us, to help in our objective of securing promotion, would NP have some bizarre aversion to signing that player?
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 Not at all. This 'high profile' term is being used in different circumstances. As for him not being able to deal with them, and by them I assume the usual examples being Gradel, Mills are who you mean then fine. But just because a player and NP don't see eye to eye or there being a financial reason as may be part of the reason with Mills this doesn't suggest he can't manage them. Without a doubt Beckford, Nugent, Bamba are all high profile but NP is managing them fine and there's no issue. People just making mountains out of molehills.
Jace Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 Not at all. This 'high profile' term is being used in different circumstances. As for him not being able to deal with them, and by them I assume the usual examples being Gradel, Mills are who you mean then fine. But just because a player and NP don't see eye to eye or there being a financial reason as may be part of the reason with Mills this doesn't suggest he can't manage them. Without a doubt Beckford, Nugent, Bamba are all high profile but NP is managing them fine and there's no issue. People just making mountains out of molehills. I heard Nigel Pearson doesn't want to sign Heskey because of his insecurities in front of Stringer
MrSpaM Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 Hull fans talking like it's a done deal now, they are either ridiculously over optimistic, or he's now playing for them They also seem to be under the impression he didnt come to us because Pearson would only offer him a one year contract and he wanted two
Deucalion Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 Hull fans talking like it's a done deal now, they are either ridiculously over optimistic, or he's now playing for them They also seem to be under the impression he didnt come to us because Pearson would only offer him a one year contract and he wanted two Either way, we need to move on.
bridlington Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 Hull fans talking like it's a done deal now, they are either ridiculously over optimistic, or he's now playing for themThey also seem to be under the impression he didnt come to us because Pearson would only offer him a one year contract and he wanted two To be fair, most hull fans are pretty surprised at this one, but sky sports and bbc both think it's happening. Surely the two most reliable sources around?
theferret Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 just been to east coast for few days ,and on mondays bbc look north they reported that heskey would sign two year contract with hull later this week.
Jaspa Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 To be fair, most hull fans are pretty surprised at this one, but sky sports and bbc both think it's happening. Surely the two most reliable sources around? No, they are not sources They are broadcasters, the place they got their info from is a source, they only ever confirm what has already happened All the ITK must be on their hols at the moment or something, this place has been dry for a month
Babylon Posted 26 June 2012 Posted 26 June 2012 Gradel slagged us off to the media when he moved to leeds because I dont think he actually wanted to leave Well he shouldn't have asked to leave then considering Pearson stated publicly that he didn't want him to go.
artursteppe Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 If I were NP and I really wanted any Hull City players, I might say to them 'we'll give you open space to negotiate a deal with Emile Heskey, if you talk business about selling 'whoever' to us.................................
bridlington Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 If I were NP and I really wanted any Hull City players, I might say to them 'we'll give you open space to negotiate a deal with Emile Heskey, if you talk business about selling 'whoever' to us................................. But what has NP got to do with EH and hull?
artursteppe Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 But what has NP got to do with EH and hull? Have you been on the moon, popular opinion in Hull, the press and various places have it that EH will sign for Hull very soon. Where Have you been??Let me explain a little more, just to spell it out. I do not mean I would promise not to make an offer to Emile now, I mean I would have offered that facility before Hull made an offer to Emile, to give them a clear run and potentially cheaper deal to get EH, if they then allowed us to approach 'whoever' ( Hull City player that NP might really want ). I really do despair sometimes that I always seem to have to spell things out in three letter words. Sorry a bit more explanation may be needed. Hull would think that if we were to offer Emile a deal to come back to Leicester that a) he might wish to return to his home town club and b) we might offer him a better deal than they could. Stands to reason therefore that if we did not get involved that Hull could get a better deal and that might be worth them allowing us to approach one or more of their players. ( Shit, I'm exhausted now - I bet it's like this teaching kids in kindergarten ).
glenny_fox Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Have you been on the moon, popular opinion in Hull, the press and various places have it that EH will sign for Hull very soon. Where Have you been?? Let me explain a little more, just to spell it out. I do not mean I would promise not to make an offer to Emile now, I mean I would have offered that facility before Hull made an offer to Emile, to give them a clear run and potentially cheaper deal to get EH, if they then allowed us to approach 'whoever' ( Hull City player that NP might really want ). I really do despair sometimes that I always seem to have to spell things out in three letter words. Sorry a bit more explanation may be needed. Hull would think that if we were to offer Emile a deal to come back to Leicester that a) he might wish to return to his home town club and b) we might offer him a better deal than they could. Stands to reason therefore that if we did not get involved that Hull could get a better deal and that might be worth them allowing us to approach one or more of their players. ( Shit, I'm exhausted now - I bet it's like this teaching kids in kindergarten ). Bit OTT wernt it?
StrovolosTiger Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 If I were NP and I really wanted any Hull City players, I might say to them 'we'll give you open space to negotiate a deal with Emile Heskey, if you talk business about selling 'whoever' to us................................. If your owners or Pearson said that to us we would simply say "You have him, then" and we would move on. We will not sell our prize assets to a club that is expected to be our rival next season. It's as simple as that. By the way, our relationship with the United reserves has really suffered since Pearson left, we're set to take only 4 of them for next season; Tunnicliffe, Keane, King and Brady.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Have you been on the moon, popular opinion in Hull, the press and various places have it that EH will sign for Hull very soon. Where Have you been?? Let me explain a little more, just to spell it out. I do not mean I would promise not to make an offer to Emile now, I mean I would have offered that facility before Hull made an offer to Emile, to give them a clear run and potentially cheaper deal to get EH, if they then allowed us to approach 'whoever' ( Hull City player that NP might really want ). I really do despair sometimes that I always seem to have to spell things out in three letter words. Sorry a bit more explanation may be needed. Hull would think that if we were to offer Emile a deal to come back to Leicester that a) he might wish to return to his home town club and b) we might offer him a better deal than they could. Stands to reason therefore that if we did not get involved that Hull could get a better deal and that might be worth them allowing us to approach one or more of their players. ( Shit, I'm exhausted now - I bet it's like this teaching kids in kindergarten ). Possibly one of the most arrogant posts in recent times.... You need to get your leg over mate, big time!! lol
bridlington Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Have you been on the moon, popular opinion in Hull, the press and various places have it that EH will sign for Hull very soon. Where Have you been??Let me explain a little more, just to spell it out. I do not mean I would promise not to make an offer to Emile now, I mean I would have offered that facility before Hull made an offer to Emile, to give them a clear run and potentially cheaper deal to get EH, if they then allowed us to approach 'whoever' ( Hull City player that NP might really want ). I really do despair sometimes that I always seem to have to spell things out in three letter words. Sorry a bit more explanation may be needed. Hull would think that if we were to offer Emile a deal to come back to Leicester that a) he might wish to return to his home town club and b) we might offer him a better deal than they could. Stands to reason therefore that if we did not get involved that Hull could get a better deal and that might be worth them allowing us to approach one or more of their players. ( Shit, I'm exhausted now - I bet it's like this teaching kids in kindergarten ). Absolutely brilliant stuff there, fair play. Of course what I was getting at is if Steve Bruce wants to sign emile heskey and emile heskey wants to sign for hull then who the hell is Nigel Pearson to suddenly ring up Steve Bruce and say "oh well if I let this happen, please will you let me go for cam stewart". But anyway, your response was a much better way of seeing things, and all so elegantly put, too. Bravo.
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 If your owners or Pearson said that to us we would simply say "You have him, then" and we would move on. We will not sell our prize assets to a club that is expected to be our rival next season. It's as simple as that. By the way, our relationship with the United reserves has really suffered since Pearson left, we're set to take only 4 of them for next season; Tunnicliffe, Keane, King and Brady. If your owners or Pearson said that to us we would simply say "You have him, then" and we would move on. We will not sell our prize assets to a club that is expected to be our rival next season. It's as simple as that. By the way, our relationship with the United reserves has really suffered since Pearson left, we're set to take only 4 of them for next season; Tunnicliffe, Keane, King and Brady. I wouldn't have expected it to have suffered, given you now have an ex Man Utd player in charge so pretty irrelevant really.
StrovolosTiger Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 I wouldn't have expected it to have suffered, given you now have an ex Man Utd player in charge so pretty irrelevant really. You are correct. But this is the real reason: http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/story-16455652-detail/story.html?
Bert Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 For people saying Pearson only signs youth. Powell, adebola, mcKenna, brown, Berner, Warner, Dickov to name a few are players that he's signed that are well into their 30's.
Grewks Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 If your owners or Pearson said that to us we would simply say "You have him, then" and we would move on. We will not sell our prize assets to a club that is expected to be our rival next season. It's as simple as that. By the way, our relationship with the United reserves has really suffered since Pearson left, we're set to take only 4 of them for next season; Tunnicliffe, Keane, King and Brady. That's nice, shame we took the quality (james and de laet) and you got what was left. In addition to Manchester United, we also have good relations with liverpool (hobbs and spearing) and Arsenal (gilbert). It's quite strange how we get the better players from Manchester United, especially considering you have an ex captain in charge. Probably a result of the fact that 'pearson has no links with Manchester United'.
rico Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 If your owners or Pearson said that to us we would simply say "You have him, then" and we would move on. We will not sell our prize assets to a club that is expected to be our rival next season. It's as simple as that. By the way, our relationship with the United reserves has really suffered since Pearson left, we're set to take only 4 of them for next season; Tunnicliffe, Keane, King and Brady. Where does it say that they will be with you?
marko Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 You are correct. But this is the real reason: http://www.thisishul...ail/story.html? The article says their return to you is "in the balance". That hardly a ringing endorsement for your little theory that you and Man United are practically one.
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