jimmer Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Thank Christ for that, I for one, certainly wont miss him or his attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Would you not say it's idiotic to slate a manager for getting rid of a player, when nobody actually knows what's gone on. Perhaps, if the truth came out there would be a reason there that meant he didn't have much choice. But it seems that some people blame the manager for everything. True. And I take your point re people wanting to fix the blame fast and the manager being an easy target for that. I do also think it is perfectly reasonable to question our leader, though, if he makes decisions that impact negatively on our results because a relationship matter got in the way. I say that knowing full well that none of us know what really happened and it might be something that made the situation untenable all round. For the record, I have no issue with NP, either. He brings an awful lot of excellent skill, dtermination and ability to this club. But I think no-one in any office is above being challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 How much for can't be arsed to read all the pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Thank you, Nigel Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 True. And I take your point re people wanting to fix the blame fast and the manager being an easy target for that. I do also think it is perfectly reasonable to question our leader, though, if he makes decisions that impact negatively on our results because a relationship matter got in the way. I say that knowing full well that none of us know what really happened and it might be something that made the situation untenable all round. For the record, I have no issue with NP, either. He brings an awful lot of excellent skill, dtermination and ability to this club. But I think no-one in any office is above being challenged. I wouldn't worry Trent. If our start to next season isn't is poor, questions will be asked pretty quickly. I do hope, this time, that Pearson is seen as a long term project. I doubt it though. If we aren't in the top 6 by Christmas he will prob be on borrowed time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 I didn't think Mills was anywhere near as bad as people are making out on here, but with the apparent dressing room bust up with Pearson and to throw in the reported wages he was earning here it's not a surprise he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanFox Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Glad he has gone! Finally off the wage big too, never rated him, to fat and sluggish in the early parts of last season, seen better Sunday league defenders to be fair! Hopefully be able to bring in a few decent players with the freed up wages In Pearson we trust!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 At least if we fail miserably this year we will have plenty of excuses unlike last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyfox Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 I think Mills' played overly well in his last season at Reading and Sven just threw big money at him cos we needed a centre back. It was shown on many occasions in the first 4/5 months of last season that bamba/morgan/st ledger were much more reliable and wernt as big a liability as mardy arse mills. I'm glad he's gone, best to have everyone behind the team an no distractions. Reminds me of the DJ Campbell saga. Morgan was not here and untill whatever happened between Mills n Pearson both managers played mills ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Agnew Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 I think Mills will be a solid player again next year, and probably score against us. The reason being is that he will have to change his attitude, and adjust to not being a big fish. No arrogance and no price tag pressure either. Just a pity we got him at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 I think he's a good defender puts his body on the line well. Don't think he'd be bad at all with a solid partner, Morgan/Chester etc. Just the high price tag and everyone jumping on the mills is shit bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 However if Pearson doesn't like him/rate him then I'm happy with Pearson's decision he obviously knows a lot more about football than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brockmyster Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Glad he has gone! Finally off the wage big too, never rated him, to fat and sluggish in the early parts of last season, seen better Sunday league defenders to be fair! Hopefully be able to bring in a few decent players with the freed up wages In Pearson we trust!!! ****ing hell id love to know where your watching sunday league if theyre that good and free i might go and watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 True. And I take your point re people wanting to fix the blame fast and the manager being an easy target for that. I do also think it is perfectly reasonable to question our leader, though, if he makes decisions that impact negatively on our results because a relationship matter got in the way. I say that knowing full well that none of us know what really happened and it might be something that made the situation untenable all round. For the record, I have no issue with NP, either. He brings an awful lot of excellent skill, dtermination and ability to this club. But I think no-one in any office is above being challenged. Got no problem people questioning him, but very few people leave it at questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 My message to Matt Mills: Go fvck yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 My message to Matt Mills: Go fvck yourself. He could hoof you 60 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Good. And if he turns out to be good for Bolton fair play to him, but it didn't and never was going to turn out well for him here for one reason or another and i've said it before and i'll say it again if a player doesn't want to be at the club or doesn't perform well for the club no matter who he is what is the point in having them here? If they turn out to be good at another club (Which seems to happen quite often for us) great but if they havn't done it here I don't want them here. I don't like the lad, I think his attitude was awful and he thought his place was guarenteed, he was wrong and now he has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 He could hoof you 60 yards. Into row Z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Numan Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 I'm glad they changed it to a permanent deal but you can guarantee that it would have been less than the 2 million originally offered. Probably closer to 1.5. We'll have recouped about 2.3 mil of the 3 mil spent so far and 2 big wage earners off the books. I wish we'd sign someone to give us all a bit more hope though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 I'm glad they changed it to a permanent deal but you can guarantee that it would have been less than the 2 million originally offered. Probably closer to 1.5. We'll have recouped about 2.3 mil of the 3 mil spent so far and 2 big wage earners off the books. I wish we'd sign someone to give us all a bit more hope though Like Matt Mills did last year? Many people (Me included) were ecstatic with the signing of Matt Mills last year from what i'd seen of him at Reading he was one of if not the best defender in the league thought we'd made a brilliant signing, how wrong I was. TBH Pearson's done it before bring in 'unknowns' and made them into winning teams with good spirit and I trust he can do it again, I may be wrong but either way we have signed big names, 'good' players, big money splashed about in the past and it's got us no-where, we have signing 'unknowns' before and they have failed don't get me wrong but I would be quite confident in saying we have had more success out of 'unknown' something to prove type players than we have with big name, so called 'good' player reputations. And don't give me the 'I just want some signings', 'We havn't signed anyone yet' speil because i'd hazard a guess we have done more business, doing our homework and identifying our targets than many clubs in the division so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 I'm glad they changed it to a permanent deal but you can guarantee that it would have been less than the 2 million originally offered. Probably closer to 1.5. We'll have recouped about 2.3 mil of the 3 mil spent so far and 2 big wage earners off the books. I wish we'd sign someone to give us all a bit more hope though The fact we've got rid of people who were distinctly average or missed large chunks of last season makes me feel optimistic. We've got rid of Mills who hardly kicked a ball post Christmas, and Bamba who missed a large chunk through the ACON. Even when they played I thought they were fairly average and to me Morgan looked a better defender. On top of that we've lost Weale, Berner, Mousa, Johnson, Fernandes, Oakley, Howard, Abe, Tunchev, Vassell. All of whom hardly featured. And brought in the Marshall, Morgan, Drinkwater, James, Vardy and De Laet. With a few more on their way I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 The fact we've got rid of people who were distinctly average or missed large chunks of last season makes me feel optimistic. We've got rid of Mills who hardly kicked a ball post Christmas, and Bamba who missed a large chunk through the ACON. Even when they played I thought they were fairly average and to me Morgan looked a better defender. On top of that we've lost Weale, Berner, Mousa, Johnson, Fernandes, Oakley, Howard, Abe, Tunchev, Vassell. All of whom hardly featured. And brought in the Marshall, Morgan, Drinkwater, James, Vardy and De Laet. With a few more on their way I'm sure. I agree with this completely. However, I do want to see a couple of signings of real quality ( and I do mean real quality, not 'Sven' quality). These would gee up the young lads to progress further and would put the existing 'older heads' on their toes in terms of competition for places. None of the signings so far excite me and give me real hope that we could contend for honours this season. I'm sure Pearson will get the best out of them, but a couple of really good players at this level would be great. Blackburn have done it with Murphy and Best who, I would guess, is going to be very strong at this level. We need to as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_lcfc Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Reading fans didn't rate him, we didn't rate him and Bolton fans won't rate him. Over the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Deja Vu? http://www.bwfcforum...s-Official.html http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/boards/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23631 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Dream Posted 4 July 2012 Share Posted 4 July 2012 Deja Vu? http://www.bwfcforum...s-Official.html A few fans from both Leicester and Reading will soon try to advise them otherwise, get shot down but come mid-season they'll wish they'd listened. His attitude will always get the better of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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