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Cycling - TEam GB

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Well we fooked the 1st race right up.

Plus why on earth did the front cyclist keep looking back? Cost him gold...perhaps.

Oh and I had no idea what was going on.

Posted

That was pretty crap thought we were supposed to do well. Hope the coverage is better for the rest of the games, had no idea what was going on at all .

Posted

That was pretty crap thought we were supposed to do well. Hope the coverage is better for the rest of the games, had no idea what was going on at all .

Exactly. They should have had the km-to-go and the time gap up permanently like the Tour de France coverage. Confusing and dissapointing.

Posted

Didn't get any of it, but im just laughing because GB got done in by a guy from Kazakhstan.

And whoever watched it for a whole six hours, is a seriously sad human being.

Posted

Didn't get any of it, but im just laughing because GB got done in by a guy from Kazakhstan.

And whoever watched it for a whole six hours, is a seriously sad human being.

That's like saying watching 2 games of ford super Sunday means your a sad human being. Who hasn't on hear watched that?

Posted

That's like saying watching 2 games of ford super Sunday means your a sad human being. Who hasn't on hear watched that?

Well it's not, because that's two totally different matches.

This was one race.

Posted

And whoever watched it for a whole six hours, is a seriously sad human being.

Well at least they'd be spared from reading your drivel on here. So I suppose every cloud has a silver lining!

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Posted

Everyone was against us, made it so much tougher, it's stop Britain at all cost when it comes to cycling.... feel for Cav still not won a medal at the games...

Posted

Gutted for Cavendish. Have got well into cycling over the past few weeks, was much better understanding it all including why he didn't win. Find it more interesting than football at the moment.

Posted

Didn't get any of it, but im just laughing because GB got done in by a guy from Kazakhstan.

And whoever watched it for a whole six hours, is a seriously sad human being.

A guy from Kazakhstan who has won a Vuelta and scored a 3rd place at a Tour de France.

Posted

So as far as I could gather from the commentary, the rest off the Peleton sort of assumed the GB boys would catch them up with the leading group so sat back and waited for that to happen, and as it turned out four of them simply was not enough to do that and no one else, notably the Germans, did not really do any of the work (ie leading the Peleton) until it was too late.

Posted

Don't know much about cycling, can anyone explain what went wrong?

Cav is the best sprinter in the world.

Wiggins & Frome are excelent Stage racers which means that they are excelent Mountain climers & Time Trialists.

David Miller (former drug cheat) is also a fantastic time trialist & is a good flat & hill climber, Stannard is also a good flat & hill rider.

Box hill is a large hill but not a mountain, the course was a level playingfield for all the racers. GB strategy was to keep a steady pace & if any breakaways get away, to limit their time ahead to a catchable distance. Now in team competition the size of a team is usually 8/9 riders, in the Olympics, the team is 5 riders. 9 riders can ride faster as a team than 5 because in a team of 5 riders 4 can shelter (rest) from the wind, but in a team of 9 eight can... simple yes! Riders can recover & take their turn pacemaking on the front. You may have noticed Cavendish never coming to the front as he was being protected by his other 4 team mates until the final sprint.

GB's tactics were correct for the race, but they did depend on other countries joining in on their desire for a sprint finish because they did not have enough teammates to chase a large group of riders ahead! You can be a great set of 4 riders, but if your chasing 10 who are all woring well as a unit, your not going to catch them!

GB did a good job, but countries with sprinters like Greipel from Germany, or Sagan form Slovenia etc... did not give their all for their sprinter & left the chase up to GB on the whole. The problem is that in a sprint, if Cavendish is given a lead out buy Miller Froome Wiggins & Stannard, it really would be difficult to stay on Cavendish's back wheel & come around because Cavendish's main asset is that he accelerates to top speed quicker than any sprinter & gets a gap and maintains that gap until the line.

Vinokourov is a great rider, he has had his problems & like a large proportion of cyclists over the past 20 years has been caught doping or masking their blood sample results. However as a rider I'd say that it is a great finish to a very good career. He is a national hero in Kazakstahn & is easily their best rider.

Also Uran was looking around when Alex made the move, this was a big mistake, he seemed to lose focus & did not know when AV was. Vino took advantage & would have won a sprint to the line you could see that. Vino got his tactics right for the sprint!

Hope that explains it for you :)

Posted

Thanks, what i don't understand is why we let such a large group break away, surely the GB team could have gone with the breakaway?

Posted

Watched the last 80km or so. Not really into the sport but I get the gist of it. Not sure what went on that allowed the leaders to gain a 60 second lead but it seemed like none of the other teams in the chasing pack gave anyone a chance of catching back up to the lead group. We were constantly working our asses off at the front of the chasing pack, can't remember anyone other riders putting the work in at the front tbh.

Posted

Watched the last 80km or so. Not really into the sport but I get the gist of it. Not sure what went on that allowed the leaders to gain a 60 second lead but it seemed like none of the other teams in the chasing pack gave anyone a chance of catching back up to the lead group. We were constantly working our asses off at the front of the chasing pack, can't remember anyone other riders putting the work in at the front tbh.

At 25km to go with a 60 second gap to the leaders, I thought it was easily GB's race for the taking. The only problem is that they couldn't close them down at all from then on because they were effectively 4 men against 33. If the Germans and the Australians had helped out then they probably would have caught them.

Posted

At 25km to go with a 60 second gap to the leaders, I thought it was easily GB's race for the taking. The only problem is that they couldn't close them down at all from then on because they were effectively 4 men against 33. If the Germans and the Australians had helped out then they probably would have caught them.

I don't get why they didn't though, that's the thing. Someone who knows a lot more might know more?

Also, did the Chasing pack get held up at the site of the crash? Seemed like they should have gained some ground after that and the hill climb. Can't work out why they didn't if it wasn't that.

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