burni Posted 24 August 2012 Posted 24 August 2012 I think hes a great player at this level, any player defending against dyer must dread it!
Thracian Posted 24 August 2012 Posted 24 August 2012 I think hes a great player at this level, any player defending against dyer must dread it! You just believe it - he's a sodding nightmare to mark. And if everyone wore the shirt with Dyers attitude, commitment and work ethic we'd win promotion with points to spare.
Bugg Posted 24 August 2012 Posted 24 August 2012 Dyer is decent but I think that Knockaert should get a go considering eachothers performances the other night.
Tom17LCFC Posted 24 August 2012 Posted 24 August 2012 Thing is though, if Dyer did have the end product, he wouldn't be with us. He'd be a star in a prem team. I reckon he'll start tomorrow.
absolutelegend Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Dyer creates chances and causes problems for oppo defences. I realise he might miss a few, but better that than not creating any chances at all of having any shots like some of the other players in our team that i don't need to mention.
Guest Col city fan Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Everything that Thrac said.... I'd be surprised if Lloyd don't play today and if the bulk of the chances we make for the strikers doesn't come down the left hand side. Marshall is so wasted on the right flank, like Gally was IMO. Its a shame we didn't get that pacy right winger too, with Marshall playing inside.
BlueSi13 Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Fully agree with the OP. I've been saying the same for years and have always been stunned by the level of almost hero-worship the fellow seems to enjoy. I'm not saying he's a bad man, or that he lacks passion, or that he lacks effort, or pace, or desire to do well for this football club. But the truth for me is that technically he is not a standard befitting a club that endeavours to reach the Premier League. His first touch, control, passing ability, shooting, tackling and crossing (the really important bits) are by and large frustratingly poor. Plus i don't think he's that good without the ball either. As other people have said on here already, with his pace being his one true attribute, being an impact sub should be his forte. But to start him every week? We'll suffer in the long run IMO. Nevertheless, he's still a great lad
BlueSi13 Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 You just believe it - he's a sodding nightmare to mark. And if everyone wore the shirt with Dyers attitude, commitment and work ethic we'd win promotion with points to spare. But if everybody had his ability as a FOOTBALLER, we'd be in League 1 faster than Lloyd's 50m sprint time.
dmayne7 Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Think Dyer will start again with Knockaert making his full league debut against Blackpool next weekend
Charl91 Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 He does have an end product sometimes, he's just very hit and miss. Literally.
Fmfox Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 whilst everyone is calling for knockaert to replace dyer, the truth is that marshall was much less effective than dyer vs charlton so why not consider playing knockaert instead of marshall and playing marshall in a more central role? With the players we have we should be playing 4-3-3 really
leicesterseddon Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 You just believe it - he's a sodding nightmare to mark. And if everyone wore the shirt with Dyers attitude, commitment and work ethic we'd win promotion with points to spare. His work ethic is indeed good. But his problem is consistency - it's no good him tearing up a pisspoor defence once every five games but if he does very little in the other four then he can hardly justify a starting place. It's also no good him being in the side just to draw defenders out of position...he has to contribute either goals or assists at the end of the day. He had some golden opportunities on Tuesday night to create goals when he got the ball out on the left, but his crossing was woeful (as it always has been). I would have expected a decent Sunday league footballer to get at least one good ball in, but he couldn't.
LJS Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 whilst everyone is calling for knockaert to replace dyer, the truth is that marshall was much less effective than dyer vs charlton so why not consider playing knockaert instead of marshall and playing marshall in a more central role? With the players we have we should be playing 4-3-3 really I don't think (or at least I hope that people aren't) calling for Dyer to be dropped because of the Charlton match alone. It will more be because, as quick as he can run, he is incapable of controlling the direction in which the ball travels once it leaves his foot. To call for him to be dropped based on a single poor game would be silly, just as it is to do so for Marshall.
fleckneymike Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 The case against Dyer stems from many seasons of mediocrity. The Charlton game merely reflected the best and worst of Dyer, the best is that he can run very quickly, the worst is that all he can do is run very quickly. If at this stage of his career he can still not cross or shoot with any degree of control then either he isn't very good, or serious questions must be asked about what exactly they've been doing in training for the last 4 years.
Guest Col city fan Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 The case against Dyer stems from many seasons of mediocrity. The Charlton game merely reflected the best and worst of Dyer, the best is that he can run very quickly, the worst is that all he can do is run very quickly. If at this stage of his career he can still not cross or shoot with any degree of control then either he isn't very good, or serious questions must be asked about what exactly they've been doing in training for the last 4 years. It does make you wonder Mike?
tylesta Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 It does make you wonder Mike? i thought you was hanging out of dyer? or has your tune changed?
Guest Col city fan Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 i thought you was hanging out of dyer? or has your tune changed? Nice choice of phrase I'd play Dyer at present no problem. I was responding to Mike's point about improving his weaknesses.
tylesta Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Nice choice of phrase I'd play Dyer at present no problem. I was responding to Mike's point about improving his weaknesses. His weaknesses will never be strengthened.
Babylon Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Seems like we know who this seasons scapegoat is then!
Guest Col city fan Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 His weaknesses will never be strengthened. Yes, that's why I said 'I do wonder' cos they've had four seasons to improve them..?
Guest Col city fan Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Seems like we know who this seasons scapegoat is then! I think Dyer is a perennial scapegoat Babs..
tylesta Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Seems like we know who this seasons scapegoat is then! beckford
fleckneymike Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Seems like we know who this seasons scapegoat is then! I don't think anyone is saying the reason we lost is Lloyd Dyer, they're just saying he cannot cross or shoot. I've never looked back on a season at this level and thought that Lloyd Dyer played any significant role in it be it positively or negatively.
Guest Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Dyer and Knockaert had great games today. All of our wingers look dangerous.
southwest fox Posted 25 August 2012 Posted 25 August 2012 Need to start with knockaert now looks good
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