Col city fan Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 I'd get rid of the passengers in our team before I ever considered getting rid of a bloke who featured in a significant proportion of our most dangerous moves and whose speed and energy left Charlton's defence ragged and bewildered. I've raely seen even Dyer run for so long and so fast as tonight. The bloke's such an easy whipping boy and yet his presence in the team helped us produce a performance tonight that made us look more dangerous in attack than we've been for years. Knockaert was another - what an efforvescent footballer - and I'd sooner go with the imperfections of those two than the indifference of Marshall, James and Beckford because all three put together weren't worth a decent mark tonight.. This.. Good post IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylesta Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 I think it's dyers pace that lets his crossing down i think he gets there too fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 Its not just his pace he has good movement too. But like you said unfortunately there is rarely an end product. Yesterday would be harsh to judge him on as I think that was the worst performance I've ever seen from him. After his second one on one miss I just wanted to give him a hug, it just wasn't his day. Don't write him off yet because nigel won't and he will have plenty of opourtunities to make up for yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 It's not an exaggeration in the slightest to suggest Usain Bolt would be as effective as Dyer. Well it is, isn't it? On his day - Dyer is unplayable, unfortunately it's considerable consistency issues / a shortage of 'technical ability' that should render him an impact sub, nothing more. Marshall, Knockaert (and to an extent Gallagher) are all gifted in terms of touch and technique, but do any of them have the ability to frighten and stretch defenders with pace? Lloyd offers an alternative threat on the flanks that it would appear no one else in our side can muster. In my opinion, he offers enough to warrant being a Leicester City player, and it's unlikely he's on huge wedge either. Keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborofox Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 The longer Dyer has time to think about what to do, the more woeful the final product is. He had an eternity fot the one on one yesterday and just passed it to the keeper not having a clue what to do. His best play is running at people, creating space for others. The reason he cant finish and his crossing isnt always good is why he isnt a top player. He wont ever do any better than us and we have to accept him for what he is. Deserves a place in the squad at minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousefox Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 Gets a lot more criticism than he deserves, he should have scored yesterday but a lot of the goals he has scored have been unexpected and impressive. His pace is a fantastic asset to have from the start or off the bench and he can look good even against top teams like at Man City. Lets not also forget he was our longest serving player in the starting line up yesterday and Saturday and there is a reason why he hasn't been pushed out like others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 Well it is, isn't it? On his day - Dyer is unplayable, unfortunately it's considerable consistency issues / a shortage of 'technical ability' that should render him an impact sub, nothing more. Marshall, Knockaert (and to an extent Gallagher) are all gifted in terms of touch and technique, but do any of them have the ability to frighten and stretch defenders with pace? Lloyd offers an alternative threat on the flanks that it would appear no one else in our side can muster. In my opinion, he offers enough to warrant being a Leicester City player, and it's unlikely he's on huge wedge either. Keep him around. So again, you're saying he has pace. Like Usain. But his technical ability is so poor that I can only assume he is footballer purely because of his pace. I'm not saying he never makes any impact, but it's very rare and even when he does he ends up fvcking it up most of the time anyway. I wouldn't get rid because we've only got 2 other wingers at the club, but his playing time should be very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acooling08 Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 So again, you're saying he has pace. Like Usain. But his technical ability is so poor that I can only assume he is footballer purely because of his pace. I'm not saying he never makes any impact, but it's very rare and even when he does he ends up fvcking it up most of the time anyway. I wouldn't get rid because we've only got 2 other wingers at the club, but his playing time should be very limited. After last night, time to remove that sig I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 I like Dyer also, but it is time for us to move on. I don't mean sell Lloyd, I mean use another option/formation. To me, he is inconsistent and sometimes does lack that end product, as seen yesterday. However, I do believe he can be a decent squad player, perhaps coming off of the bench late on in games, because his pace can be an indispensible attribute for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 I'd forget about trying to play football, have no wingers put two 7 foot strikers and vardy upfront play seven defenders and hump the ball forward at every chance. It seems the only way to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 Sell Dyer, he would be ok for someone like Barnsley but how can we be serious about promotion with Dyer starting games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbkkids Posted 22 August 2012 Share Posted 22 August 2012 I was interested until you suggested he should race usain bolt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theessexfox Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 His crosses at Charlton never beat the first man, and as for that finish... I think this season Knockaert will gradually take over from Dyer, before Lloyd is shipped out in January/the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpaM Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 I do think Knockaert needs to be thrown in at the deep end now, i'd still keep Lloyd in the squad but Knockaert needs to be starting games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 Wellens been injured too long? Gallagher not featuring often enough? We better all have a good moan about Lloyd then, damn Pearson always playing his favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 I hate criticising Dyer, it is like kicking a puppy, he is clearly passionate and motivated to be wearing the Leicester shirt, which very few of our players over the last few years have been, he clearly has ability and pace, but he has recently lost his composure in front of goal, in his first 2 seasons for us he wasn't like that, so I am confident he will get it back, but I would expect Knockaert to get the nod over Dyer quite soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylesta Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 don't know how in dyers second season he managed a return of 3 goals in 40 apperances I hate criticising Dyer, it is like kicking a puppy, he is clearly passionate and motivated to be wearing the Leicester shirt, which very few of our players over the last few years have been, he clearly has ability and pace, but he has recently lost his composure in front of goal, in his first 2 seasons for us he wasn't like that, so I am confident he will get it back, but I would expect Knockaert to get the nod over Dyer quite soon. 11 in league 1 40 apperances 3 goals in his second season, scored more in his last 2 seasons than our play off season so losing composure? i just think he aint good enough if we are to be promotion contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 don't know how in dyers second season he managed a return of 3 goals in 40 apperances 11 in league 1 40 apperances 3 goals in his second season, scored more in his last 2 seasons than our play off season so losing composure? i just think he aint good enough if we are to be promotion contenders. End product is not just about goals, in his second season I don't remember him squandering so many chances or delivering woeful crosses, he was very effective in that season and one of our major attacking threats, at least that is how I remember it, it may just be that he was the only option, but I remember we had Adams, N'guessen and Gradel and he outperformed all of them as a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seenitall Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 Teach the boy to pass after he's done the hard bit and you have a star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 Teach the boy to pass after he's done the hard bit and you have a star I think after 4 years at the club, they may have tried to get this part of his game right. On the flip side if Lloyd had and end product and regularly scored, he'd be a Premiership player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 I hate criticising Dyer, it is like kicking a puppy, he is clearly passionate and motivated to be wearing the Leicester shirt, which very few of our players over the last few years have been, he clearly has ability and pace, but he has recently lost his composure in front of goal, in his first 2 seasons for us he wasn't like that, so I am confident he will get it back, but I would expect Knockaert to get the nod over Dyer quite soon. Dyer has never been particularly composed when shooting and I've no idea why the coaches haven't sorted it cos it wouldn't be hard. . Nor can I see that Knockaert is necessarily competing for Dyer's place anyway. Of our three potential wingers Marshall has been the big disappointment to me. The bloke doesn't have the pace or trickery to take get past people, he's not especially competitive when we've lost the ball and against the fast challenging Charlton on Tuesday he was hardly to be seen. Dyer on the other hand was involved in so many of our best attacks and there's no one else in our side would have been fast enough to make the big chance he missed. Furthermore he's a game and resolute defender. Not pretty or a natural I'd agree but he gets the job done and no-one gets away from him more than momentarily. He regularly unsettled Charlton's defence because everywhere he went he had to be tightly marked and that meant more space for others. But Marshall had virtually no impact at all and I don't think he will when the game is fast and physical.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 Dyer has never been particularly composed when shooting and I've no idea why the coaches haven't sorted it cos it wouldn't be hard. . Nor can I see that Knockaert is necessarily competing for Dyer's place anyway. Of our three potential wingers Marshall has been the big disappointment to me. The bloke doesn't have the pace or trickery to take get past people, he's not especially competitive when we've lost the ball and against the fast challenging Charlton on Tuesday he was hardly to be seen. Dyer on the other hand was involved in so many of our best attacks and there's no one else in our side would have been fast enough to make the big chance he missed. Furthermore he's a game and resolute defender. Not pretty or a natural I'd agree but he gets the job done and no-one gets away from him more than momentarily. He regularly unsettled Charlton's defence because everywhere he went he had to be tightly marked and that meant more space for others. But Marshall had virtually no impact at all and I don't think he will when the game is fast and physical.. Blimey Thrac!.... Careful! Marshall is a fans fave whereas many think Lloyd is dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC FOX Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 Dyer is a last 20 minute man. I think him and Beckford should come on for the last 20minutes at tired defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Agyemang Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 Lloyd, is a top winger on his day u can't play up against him. His pace is to be admired, try's 100% every game, tracks back and wears the shirt instead of taking the piss out of the wage bill Yes his shooting is shit and his crossing int the best but what we have here is a winger that on his day can tear up the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 24 August 2012 Share Posted 24 August 2012 Lloyd, is a top winger on his day u can't play up against him. His pace is to be admired, try's 100% every game, tracks back and wears the shirt instead of taking the piss out of the wage bill Yes his shooting is shit and his crossing int the best but what we have here is a winger that on his day can tear up the championship Couldn't agree more and Charlton were seriously holding on Tuesday because of the effort they'd given trying to keep tabs on Dyer, Vardy and latterly Nugent. Why use Dyer for just 20 minutes when the bloke was decimating Charlton's defence as much in the last 10 minutes as he did in the first. I couldn't believe his energy. I've long seen him as a 60-minute man but he had more running and determination in him at the end than some of players showed at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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