Safe Standing - Support the Early Day motion

[Harry - LCFC]

It's not as if fans will always sit/stand in their seat, I've taken better seats so many times at away games. What a little criminal I am! All seater stadiums don't fvcking guarantee you'll know where people are, fvck off Leroy!

[Kitchandro]

And he spoke as if we don't actually already have all-seater stadiums. 'Nobody wants to hear racist/distasteful chanting, that's why people want all seater stadiums'. Er, what?

The level of idiot that we have as pundits for the football league is astonishing, and Rosenior's the biggest joke of the lot.

[purpleronnie]

New safe standing video:-

[Kitchandro]

Good vid. Cloughie Junior's gone up in my estimation

I can't work out how in increases the capacity though?

[Bugg]

Watching that video I can't see a single thing that can be used against safe standing, There is no danger at all.

[wakeyfox01]

Good vid. Cloughie Junior's gone up in my estimation

I can't work out how in increases the capacity though?

There's two steps in in between the rails so you get two people in each berth which is about as wide as a current seating berth

[Kitchandro]

There's two steps in in between the rails so you get two people in each berth which is about as wide as a current seating berth

Oh right. Sounds better than I thought then.

[C-man]

The actual 'safe' amount they use in Germany is a maximum of 1.8 people per seat.

If you install 1,000 rail seats in an area that previously had 1,200 normal seats that sold for £30, then assuming no fixed costs (over the lifetime fixed costs are fairly low) you could drop the price to £20 per ticket and still break even.

I understand that at Old Trafford, they have to replace 600(!) seats a game. At Hannover they haven't replaced a seat in over 10 years... More saving.

More people in the ground = more match day revenue, higher merchandise/programme sales, should mean a better atmosphere.

Cheaper tickets = socially inclusive, no loss in sales revenue with more tickets sold.

What is not to love?

Edited 24 October 2012 by C-man

[lavrentis]

I think the tide is ever so slowing moving in the right direction!

Fair play to Clough junior!

[oxford blue]

Much as I support the return of standing areas (and letting your MP know your views is never a bad idea), an EDM is unlikely to get anywhere:

From the Parliament website-

Although there is very little prospect of EDMs being debated, many attract a great deal of public interest and frequently receive media coverage.

So far there are 5 signatories only

[Kitchandro]

I think we'll get our way eventually, not for quite a few years yet though.

Maybe if we start tearing the seats out and chucking them at the away end they'll get the message that seats aren't safe?

[bluesbrothers]

Remind him that the Tories no longer have a chief whip so it is his choice.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Got the email reply. Thinking of replying with quotes off here sent from him to other posters of this forum

Hi Stuart,

Thank you for this. I don't generally sign EDM's as I don't think they are particularly effective. I will keep a close eye on this campaign though.

Kind Regards,

Andrew

[LutterworthLCFC]

If we were to get safestanding, where would it be installed?

[The Year Of The Fox]

Anywhere the club deemed fit

[Harry - LCFC]

L1, top of K1, top of the kop. They're my first thoughts on where we should have safe standing. Anywhere else is probably unnecessary unless standing became very popular, then I'd consider adding in parts of J and more of the kop.

[Voll Blau]

Anywhere the club deemed fit

Nowhere then.

It's my personal ambition to stand on an all-standing Kop. Let's face it, if the club ever did get on board (which they will only do trough MASSIVE fan pressure) that's where they'd most likely put it, what with it being the other end of the ground to the away fans an' all.

That said I've had mates told off for cobbing confetti around the Kop because it apparently could be thrown to the away end...

[LutterworthLCFC]

i've been keeping an eye on the safe standing capaign, and have been looking at the german stadiums; they seem to have it behind the goal, for us the kop.

what is the Kops capacity, around 6/7000? according to the safe standing website each seat now can hold 1.8 people with safe standing, therefore the kops capacity could increase to around 12000? this could result in tickets being half the price and the club will still get the same amount of gate receipts.

[Kitchandro]

L1, top of K1, top of the kop. They're my first thoughts on where we should have safe standing. Anywhere else is probably unnecessary unless standing became very popular, then I'd consider adding in parts of J and more of the kop.

If it was up to me I'd have the trial in the whole of L, possibly K too. I think it would be important to have whole blocks instead of just parts of them as we'd want to keep all the singers in the tightest possible area.

I'm pretty sure it would be very popular if it happened and I'd love to think that one day the stands would be built forward to be really close to the pitch and the whole of the Kop could be a standing area. That would make it a proper Kop.

Of course, the first step is years away even if we're being optimistic.

[Kitchandro]

Nowhere then.

It's my personal ambition to stand on an all-standing Kop. Let's face it, if the club ever did get on board (which they will only do trough MASSIVE fan pressure) that's where they'd most likely put it, what with it being the other end of the ground to the away fans an' all.

That said I've had mates told off for cobbing confetti around the Kop because it apparently could be thrown to the away end...

One day mate, one day. All we need is someone like the people on this thread to get mega rich and buy the club, we'd have it sorted in no time!

Ah, the things I'd do if I owned the club....

[LutterworthLCFC]

the rules state that all stadiums must be seated, but with safe standing it is technically still a all seater stadium!

[anotherharboroughfox]

Ah, the things I'd do if I owned the club....

1. Get rid of Kevin Barclay

2. Celebrate

3. All the other stuff

[LutterworthLCFC]

just seen this on the internet... "- It is widely believed that this practice is illegal. This is not the case, even within Premier

League and Championship grounds. The law only provides that these clubs should provide

seats for all supporters, not that supporters must sit on them."

So if the stewards tell me to sit down, they can do one!

[Mike the Metal Ed]

just seen this on the internet... "- It is widely believed that this practice is illegal. This is not the case, even within Premier

League and Championship grounds. The law only provides that these clubs should provide

seats for all supporters, not that supporters must sit on them."

So if the stewards tell me to sit down, they can do one!

Without wanting to sound like a jobsworth, standing in front of a seat tends to be in violation of the ground regulations, set by the council as part of the stadium's safety certificate, which allows the club to host football matches. So they do have the right to tell you to sit down, and have you removed by the police if you don't.

[C-man]

If we were to get safestanding, where would it be installed?

As our ground doesn't look the best structured or suspended it would have to be at the bottom of a stand, I would put it along the bottom of the Kop.

I'd take out a few rows in the middle so that people sitting above can see easily, and keep the seating from about level with the 'vomitories'.

I'd estimate that would take out 3,000 seats giving a standing area for around 5,000. Very decent.