Kitchandro Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 The ratings on here are a joke! 3,4,5 and even a two where as same game if a couple of our efforts had gone in there would have been 8,9 and 10. Was Morgan that bad? I thought he made a couple of great tackles, playing on Bellamy is the hardest job in the championship for a defender and Morgan had the better of him for the most part. Well if they had gone in earlier in the game maybe, but that's because we would have played the game differently. You can only judge them on the way they actually played.
teblin Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 There is so much of an over reaction in here. We did not play that Badly at all in my opinion. On another day we would have been 2 or 3 up before Bellamy scored. How can the back 4 be so bad when a team only has 3 or 4 shots on goal?
TheUltimateWinner Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Kasper 5 - Didn't have anything to do, Poor distribution. De Laet 6 - Good tackles + getting forward, lost the ball alot though. Morgan 6 - Solid but seemed to loose concentration sometimes Whitbread 5 - Shaky, I know he's a get the ball out defender but his distribution has been terrible most games. Gave away the ball too much. Missing headers. Konchesky 4 - We are too weak on the left side, no attacking presence at all. Didn't seem in the game Knockaert 8 - Pearsons substitiution bemused me. Easily our most creative player on that pitch and our only major threat going forwards. Drinkwater 5 - I know people will say he's been playing excellently this season, but when was the last match he put in a decent performance? He gives the ball away to much, no attacking threat and is very lightweight. King 7.5 - Major improvement, Winning headers, Getting tackles in and should of got a goal. Dyer 2 - He has one good game in five, he didn't turn up today. Looked clueless, never helped out defending, to busy watching the game himself. Crossing is as w*** as usual. He should be in the stands. Vardy 5 - Can't win any balls in the air when marked, good work rate as usual but no end result. Poor touches once again. Nugent 6 - Good movement, No end result. Better control and ball winning ability then vardy. Needs a goal. Subs: Lingard 3 - Thought he was a ball boy, He adds nothing to the team unfortunately. Not the creative and injective spark we need for an impact sub. His touches & positioning is terrible. Waghorn 5 - Good strength, didn't take his chances and add much. Marshall 6 - Only decent substitute of the night, his crossing, touches etc helped us alot. Pearson 2 - We are tactically inept. Got every single substitute wrong - marshall, our tactics play too aerially for a team not starting with a target man. Needs to either start Futacs or get a gentle reminder he is a perfect plan B.
Dickov22 Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Kasper - 4 - Where are his match-winning saves, the most under used keeper in the Championship thanks to the rest of the team limiting opposition to fewest shots on goal, but... nothing. Came out when he should have stuck with a punch that almost cost us a second too. Weak distribution too. RDL - 7 - Great first half, faded as Knocky left him exposed as match went on Morgan - 6 - Below his very high standards Whitbread - 5 - Average performance from 50p head, hoofer. Decisions weren't a liability for a change, but didn't offer much positively either. Konch - 3 - Maybe a 2,1 or 0 too. Total liability at the back, another goal conceded, skinned for pace time after time. Offers nothing in attack either other than a hoof. Dyer is desperately missing Schlupp too. We could get two quality players in for his wage, what a waste of £40,000 every single week. Knocky - 6 - Great early on,lovely touches & vision but loses shape leaving RDL exposed, will get subbed every game until he learns it. King - 7 - Great whilst we played through the team, faded to nothing when we resorted to longer game as it was constantly going over his head. Deadly first 20 linking up with Knocky & forwards. Drinkwater - 6 - Controlled things nicely first half of both halves but game passed him by when hoofball from the back started. Dyer - 6 - Matchwinner a few weeks ago, playing amazingly with Schlupp, left isolated by a shit LB now, great threat in first half, nothing much in second half, deservedly subbed. Vardy - 7 - Missed him when we went off, his endless running gives defences a nightmare game, linked up well with partner, midfield & widemen. When subbed our game went flat. Missed a sitter when there was offside tho. Nugent - 6 - Well below his standard, not sure if neck injury is on his mind. Forced good saves from their keeper though. Waghorn - 5 - Started brightly but faded to nothing, lacked Vardy's teamwork/workrate & was the beginning of our performance weakening. Marshall - 6 - Made up for Knocky's lack of team discipline but offered nothing much positively. Lingard - 6 - Out his depth IMO. NP - Set the team up spot on apart from Konch over Sclupp, sliced them aoart time & time again. Got a grip at halftime & team came out right after halftime. Made the wrong sub in Vardy going off as team started to fall to bits following his departure. Vardy was injured. Forced substitution.
beryllind Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Schmeichel - 5 De Laet - . 6 Morgan - 6 Whitbread - 6 Konchesky - 5 Knockaert - 7 King - 5 Drinkwater - 5 Dyer- . 5 Nugent -. 4 Vardy - . 4
Phil Bertstreet Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Schmeichel - 5 De Laet - . 6 Morgan - 6 Whitbread - 6 Konchesky - 5 Knockaert - 7 King - 5 Drinkwater - 5 Dyer- . 5 Nugent -. 4 Vardy - . 4 Agree with this. Have to say I get very fed up of seeing Morgan and Whitbread constantly having little option other than to hoof the ball forward because our midfielders have turned their backs and trotted off up field. I struggle to understand why the midfielders don't give the centre backs some options for passing short rather than expecting them to make world beating passes over midfield like Paul Scholes all the time Thought defence played very well enough to be honest. According to Beeb, Cardiff were restricted to 4 (3 on target) shots. We had 18 (13 on target).......the problem isn't in defence.
shiv Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Kasper 5 - Didn't have anything to do, Poor distribution. De Laet 6 - Good tackles + getting forward, lost the ball alot though. Morgan 6 - Solid but seemed to loose concentration sometimes Whitbread 5 - Shaky, I know he's a get the ball out defender but his distribution has been terrible most games. Gave away the ball too much. Missing headers. Konchesky 4 - We are too weak on the left side, no attacking presence at all. Didn't seem in the game Knockaert 8 - Pearsons substitiution bemused me. Easily our most creative player on that pitch and our only major threat going forwards. Drinkwater 5 - I know people will say he's been playing excellently this season, but when was the last match he put in a decent performance? He gives the ball away to much, no attacking threat and is very lightweight. King 7.5 - Major improvement, Winning headers, Getting tackles in and should of got a goal. Dyer 2 - He has one good game in five, he didn't turn up today. Looked clueless, never helped out defending, to busy watching the game himself. Crossing is as w*** as usual. He should be in the stands. Vardy 5 - Can't win any balls in the air when marked, good work rate as usual but no end result. Poor touches once again. Nugent 6 - Good movement, No end result. Better control and ball winning ability then vardy. Needs a goal. Subs: Lingard 3 - Thought he was a ball boy, He adds nothing to the team unfortunately. Not the creative and injective spark we need for an impact sub. His touches & positioning is terrible. Waghorn 5 - Good strength, didn't take his chances and add much. Marshall 6 - Only decent substitute of the night, his crossing, touches etc helped us alot. Pearson 2 - We are tactically inept. Got every single substitute wrong - marshall, our tactics play too aerially for a team not starting with a target man. Needs to either start Futacs or get a gentle reminder he is a perfect plan B. This, apart from your rating of Dyer (would maybe give him a 5/6).
Jonzey01 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Kasper 5 Kicking was apaulling, didn't have a save to make, came running out to punch when he didn't need to RDL 6 Impressive going forward as per, needs a little more composure when it comes to crossing Konch 5 Poor by his standards, best full back in the division, had an off day. sort your first touch Morgan 6 Commanding as per, organised and solid with whitbread, needs to get his head up and pass, rather than lumping it anywhere Whitbread 6 Organised, confident, our CB's limited the league leaders to 3 attempts a job well done Knockaert 7 Unlucky to come off, looked dangerous, sometimes needs to play it simple Dyer 5 Poor by lloyd, they did double up on him every time he got it. let a lot of the game pass him by King 2 Not sure how he gets a start, is a passenger in our team. Im sure he only get selected due to him being an international. Poor passing, weak, missed a sitter, need i go on. Sell him for someone wanting to spend silly money and buy Chris McCan or bring back danns Drinkwater 5 Passing ans switching of play was good, lacks physical ability, and couldn't tackle their CM's Nuge 5 Worked hard, nothing came off Vardy 6 Unlucky with his header, needs to take chances or risk being dropped permanently for Waggy
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Some ridiculous criticisms. For me i'd give Whitbread, King, Knockaert and Vardy 7s. The rest of the side 5s. Drinkwater looks just off it.. Possibly fatigue, but he had an off day today. Dyer and Nuge didn't provide much either. I know people are moaning but the back four is really not the issue at the moment. Whitbread and Morgan were good, as they have been for a large proportion of the past couple of months. We had 15 shots, they had 2. We do struggle to break sides down though at the moment. It's not a physicality problem or anything like that.. Just for one reason or another it's not happening. In conclusion, without trying to be pessimistic people perhaps need to look and realise maybe we aren't a top 2 side. The players did give it their all today and it didn't happen. We're still 5th and that is a good start to the season. Let's just try and push on, and hopefully we can do that.
Fox92 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Schmeichel 6 - Distribution, again, poor. Other than that not much to do. De Laet 6 Morgan 6 Whitbread 5 - Don't rate him. Would like Moore to come back in now, considering St Ledger is out. Konchesky 5 - I'll stand by decision that me need a new left back. Uninspiring, but doesn't have any support due to Dyer. Knockaert 7 - Probably our best player. He was shooting, slightly creative, a threat. Not sure why he went off. King 7 - Better performance from him. Very unlucky not to have two, never mind one, goals. Drinkwater 5 Dyer 4 - Again, not good enough. Comes inside far too much, no option for anybody. Needs a change. Nugent 6 - Ineffective, but, can't with direct play. Vardy 6 - Like King, very unlucky.
sdb Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Kasper - 6 De Laet - 6 Morgan - 7.5 Whitbread - 6 (good in the air, not so much on the deck) Konchesky - 6.5 Knocky - 7 King - 6.5 Drinkwater - 7 Dyer - 6 Nugent - 6 Vardy - 6 Marshall - 7 Lingaard - 6 Waghorn - 6.5 We were very unlucky, need a top drawer striker.
bjblyth Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Schmeichel 6 - Distribution not great, I really don't think it's acceptable to have it going out of touch at this level of football. Didn't have much else to do though. De Laet 7 - A constant threat down the right wing but sometimes his cross lacked, he did well to get back when Cardiff countered us and had some good last ditch tackles Morgan 7 - Most of the game he was solid and he dealt well with Bellamy 99% of the time. I don't know why everyone's bitching about him! Whitbread 6 - Too many long balls that didn't go anywhere - but he was in the way when he needed to be. Konchesky 4 - Poor today. Simple. Deserves to lose his place to Schlupp for a game or two in my opinion. Knockaert 8 - Excellent - bright start with those skills which pretty much all came off! Some good challenges too, surprised to see him go off. Only he and Kingy fancied testing the keeper! King 7 - I watched him closely and he was involved in a lot more of the game than you realise. Massive kudos for the tracking back he did to prevent an almost certain goal with his heel in the 2nd half Drinkwater 5 - Needs to learn to play the ball forwards. More passes went backwards than forwards today. Surprised to see him have a poor game. In an ideal world I'd like to see him taken off for Danns but obviously not going to happen at the minute! Dyer 5 - Struggled to get past the defence today but he gave it a good shot. Didn't get chance to show much of his speed and unfortunately being backed up by a poor Konchesky let him down. Nugent 5 - Did too much whinging today and not enough chasing down in my opinion. Good header that got cleared off the line but other than that I didn't notice him too much... Vardy 6 - Great header to hit the bar, just unlucky. Works hard, but I think in a game like Cardiff we need to see Waggy play because Vardy doesn't drop back as far and when he does, he's second to Waghorn in ability in that part of the field. Waghorn 6.5 - Strong and wanted to go forward, saw him in midfield too often though - compensating for the lack of work being done by Drinkwater Jessie 3 - Why we extended his loan I have no idea. Would rather have seen Gally come on!! Marshall 7 - Always a game changer and he gave us an attacking edge when he came on but unfortunately too little too late. Would perhaps have liked to see him start on the right and Knocky on the left. Maybe Boxing Day!
Corky Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Schmeichel- 5 (No chance with the goal, but his distribution was poor) De Laet- 5 Morgan- 7 Whitbread- 6 Konchesky- 5 Knockaert- 6 King- 7 Drinkwater- 5 Dyer- 6 Nugent- 6 Vardy- 5
jmono84 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Kasper - 5. Dint do too much wrong cept for his kicking and the fluffed attempt at gathering a cross which left the net open for Bellamy! RDL - 6. Thought he had a decent game to be fair, not outstanding but he shows konch what an att FB should be doin! Gave to ball away a few times but who doesn't!! Morgan - 6. His poorest game I've seen so far... Still fairly decent but usually plays at least 7 for me! Showed determination till the end!! Whitbread - 5. He had an alright game but his passing isn't what I thought it'd be when we first signed him... He jumps so early as well and surprised the ref doesn't give more free kicks against him Konch - 5. I do like konch but the last few games has showed that he may have past his peak... Poor hopeful passin let's him down, I've noticed dyers HUGE drop in form coincides with his return to the team. AK - 7. if anything was going to happen it would have been down to him... Looked technically our best player, wasn't surprised NP took him off, he always does!! I'd like to see him stay on a lot longer! AK - 6. King seems to have been sussed out. Even his trademark late runs are being picked up. I've lost count of the amount of times I thought he was through but had his shot blocked by another player! Think he's decent but if we wanna push up the league then we will need better. Drinks - 6. I like drinky and he's such a busy little player and gets stick in... Always there for a pass but he didn't influence the game enough imo. Dyer - 5. He can run really fast! He frustrates me because of his decision makin! He gets into space on the wing and runs closer to the opp THEN tries to cross the ball which is easily blocked!! Vardy - 5. Ineffective at the best of times! Should have never been given no. 9 shirt. NP's risk dint pay off.. Needs much much better options. Nuge - 6. Guys quality and shown signs of good hold up play. I feel the centre mids and forwards are not clicking in the way Pearson had hoped for. Subs - all 5's, ineffective. Marshall was best out of them however and feel NP should at least start him ahead of dyer. We played ok yesterday buts that's about it. Feel we are a couple of players away from a formidable squad. One strong clinical striker and quicker skilful CM with king and waggy as options on bench would make me very excited... So we are not far way! Really interested to see what NP will do in jan!
Dan Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Schmeichel - 6. Distribution as atrocious as ever, goal was pretty unstoppable though. De Laet - 4. Thought he was awful. I don't read anyone's ratings before I give my own so I don't know what the general consensus is but I thought he was gash, defensively not up to much and gave the ball away too often. Talented player but he's got a lot to work on and doesn't convince me, prefer him to Peltier though. Morgan - 7. Won a lot again, impressive. Whitbread - 5. Gave it away far too much for my liking. Konchesky - 5. Too much hoofball, decent going forward but losing his legs a bit and he doesn't convince me defensively. Knockaert - 7. Wouldn't say he was amazing but along with Morgan, our best player. Looked our biggest threat going forward, why oh why NP took him off is beyond me. Drinkwater - 5. Wasn't impressed with him yesterday in truth. King - 6. Better than Drinkwater, unlucky not to score, but could've done more. Dyer - 4. One good game, three or four shit ones. Admire his attitude but he goes missing so often it's actually painful. Nugent - 4. Totally anonymous for the third game running. Vardy - 4. Had a great effort but hardly touched the ball other than that. Subs; Waghorn - 4. Offered nothing the other two didn't, and they offered very little. Marshall - 4. Anonymous. Lingard - 4. Anonymous. 4-4-2 needs to go for me. It simply doesn't utilise our best players and it's a formation more effective for more physical sides, which we certainly aren't. Knockaert is our most creative player yet is wasted on the right hand side of midfield, get him behind the striker(s).
Alf Bentley Posted 24 December 2012 Posted 24 December 2012 Schmeichel 6 A bit erratic, though didn't cost us De Laet 7.5 Good forward and back on Sat, deserves more credit - MoM Morgan 6 OK, not as dominant as usual Whitbread 6 As per Morgan Konch 5 Looking a bit average Knocky 7 Not everything worked, but looked our most threatening player - strange subbing decision Drinky 6 OK, but not his best game King 7 Some good blocks/defensive anticipation & good forward runs Dyer 5.5 Started fine but faded out Vardy 7 Looked very lively/creative 1st half; how many times is he going to hit the woodwork, though?! Nugent 6.5 Again, lively 1st half but faded Marshall 6.5 Decent effort Waghorn 4 Shockingly clumsy; if someone else performed like this, they'd be slated a lot more Lingard 3 Looks physically lightweight, creatively substandard; I've yet to understand why he's here Substitutions: I want to exercise a bit of caution, as we don't know the full story; maybe Lingard is brilliant in training and Futacs is rubbish? Maybe Sir Alex has demanded that Lingard see a bit of action as the price for getting in some other, better MU loanee? Maybe NP felt Knocky was getting knackered & wanted him lively for Hull? We don't see his sports science stats on fitness etc...however, on the face of it, at least 2 of the 3 subs, arguably all 3, made us weaker & we lost all momentum in a game where we were very unlucky to be behind!
artursteppe Posted 24 December 2012 Posted 24 December 2012 The problem ffs is our midfield. Not for the first time has King been at fault for either not tracking back or not marking in the box and gifting the opposition big chances to score. Our midfield are weak, poor at defending, easily bullied and always out-muscled by the opposition. If our defenders weren't as good as they are, we would be getting far fewer points than we do now. The biggest weakness is Pearson, he picks our team, the chances of him getting it right are almost non-existent. A few years ago our midfield of King, Wellens, Gallagher and Dyer was crap, and the midfield we have now is almost as bad, certainly defensively. We will not get promoted with this midfield, end of! Pearson must change it now, or be gone, because we will not get promoted otherwise.
beryllind Posted 24 December 2012 Posted 24 December 2012 The problem ffs is our midfield. Not for the first time has King been at fault for either not tracking back or not marking in the box and gifting the opposition big chances to score. Our midfield are weak, poor at defending, easily bullied and always out-muscled by the opposition. If our defenders weren't as good as they are, we would be getting far fewer points than we do now. The biggest weakness is Pearson, he picks our team, the chances of him getting it right are almost non-existent. A few years ago our midfield of King, Wellens, Gallagher and Dyer was crap, and the midfield we have now is almost as bad, certainly defensively. We will not get promoted with this midfield, end of! Pearson must change it now, or be gone, because we will not get promoted otherwise. You could be my double, NP must bring in some quality player in January or we are doooooooomed
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