Young 'cannot cope with daily life'

[Finnegan]

I wake up every day feeling like I can't cope even though I know I have a wonderful life.

The doctor referred me to get some help and they just stopped getting in contact after a few weeks.

Not sure what to do now. Go back to the GP I guess.

It's up to you to make your appointments, they assume nothing, so yes, go back to the GP.

You don't just walk in to the surgery and ask to see the practice therapist, you need that reference from your GP but after that it's up to you to book regular appointment.

If you're medicated it's likely your doctor will want to see you every month in addition to your visits to see the councillor, often they will refuse to put your prescription on repeat so you HAVE to go back and see them.

Your first few trips to see the therapist will be an assessment, after which they'll discuss a path from there - quite often a course of CBT, depending on your personal preference. You may need to wait a month or more for that to start as therapists are hugely overbooked with several surgeries usually sharing one travelling councillor

Keep chasing them up and try to get to all your appointments.

Best of luck.

[Guest]

I would guess motivation, it is easy to get stuck in a job you don't like and not find the time or make the effort to find another job, I think it was called "the fear" in Friends. It isn't always easy to look for another job whilst in employment, especially if that job brings you down and sucks out all of your motivation and spirit.

It also frees you up to try other things like move to another city or country, take a chance, or do some voluntary work.

If you quit a job you shouldn't complain about not having another - not the poster was, they came across as very reasonable - I've found it is always looked upon better by a potential employer if you are in a job. At a time when it isn't piss easy to get a job of your desire any job is better than none (at least it should be though it clearly isn't) you shouldn't quit a job.

To me it's unrealistic entitlement that thinks you merit a better job than you are accepted for or able to get. It's a common delusion in today's world. I honestly believe that the halcyon days have now ended and reality is the next generation is going to be "poorer" than that of the end of the millenium.

It's up to you to make your appointments, they assume nothing, so yes, go back to the GP.

You don't just walk in to the surgery and ask to see the practice therapist, you need that reference from your GP but after that it's up to you to book regular appointment.

If you're medicated it's likely your doctor will want to see you every month in addition to your visits to see the councillor, often they will refuse to put your prescription on repeat so you HAVE to go back and see them.

Your first few trips to see the therapist will be an assessment, after which they'll discuss a path from there - quite often a course of CBT, depending on your personal preference. You may need to wait a month or more for that to start as therapists are hugely overbooked with several surgeries usually sharing one travelling councillor

Keep chasing them up and try to get to all your appointments.

Best of luck.

What an example of a hard done to society.

bottom wiping please.

[leicsmac]

If you quit a job you shouldn't complain about not having another - not the poster was, they came across as very reasonable - I've found it is always looked upon better by a potential employer if you are in a job. At a time when it isn't piss easy to get a job of your desire any job is better than none (at least it should be though it clearly isn't) you shouldn't quit a job.

To me it's unrealistic entitlement that thinks you merit a better job than you are accepted for or able to get. It's a common delusion in today's world. I honestly believe that the halcyon days have now ended and reality is the next generation is going to be "poorer" than that of the end of the millenium.

Truth. But more importantly...who's fault is that? Not the young peoples.

[Zingari]

It balances itself out eventually because us oldies can't cope with nightly life .

The music is too loud ,it's too crowded and the drinks are too expensive .

We just can't cope with it and desperately need help and understanding

[acooling08]

Its not easy at all, there's a reason why so many young people are unemployed. It's not because young people today are lazier, less motivated or less capable than those from past generations. That would make no sense. I don't know many qualifications that are free and actually make a difference

They are.

There is definitely more people these days who feel they are entitled to a good life, rather than thinking they have to work for it.

[Guest]

Truth. But more importantly...who's fault is that? Not the young peoples.

I never said they were. They need to live with life as it is not as they want it to be or as they feel entitled.

"We" have used the planet and its resources during the 20th century now it's time to pay the loan back with interest. Our pensions are not going to be all we thought they would either and certi=ainly not as wonderful as retirees over the last few decades.

[ithuriel]

Everyone in the UK has a cushy childhood and life heh Fif, shows to me you are ****ing clueless.

[Guest]

It balances itself out eventually because us oldies can't cope with nightly life .

The music is too loud ,it's too crowded and the drinks are too expensive .

We just can't cope with it and desperately need help and understanding

Is that piss I smell?

[leicsmac]

I never said they were. They need to live with life as it is not as they want it to be or as they feel entitled.

"We" have used the planet and its resources during the 20th century now it's time to pay the loan back with interest. Our pensions are not going to be all we thought they would either and certi=ainly not as wonderful as retirees over the last few decades.

I absolutely agree with you...but doesn't the fundamental injustice of that make you angry? I know it does to me.

[Zingari]

Is that piss I smell?

my carer says they are using poor quality bags these days :xmassad:

[Guest]

I absolutely agree with you...but doesn't the fundamental injustice of that make you angry? I know it does to me.

Not really. The standard of living for those in the UK will still be much higher than the vast majority of the world and of our ancestors. We were just incredibly lucky (and naive and wasteful...) Do you feel angry that those developing countries citizens won't be able to reach our levels of living because of our past actions?

my carer says they are using poor quality bags these days :xmassad:

Are you whinging?

[Zingari]

Not really. The standard of living for those in the UK will still be much higher than the vast majority of the world and of our ancestors. We were just incredibly lucky (and naive and wasteful...) Do you feel angry that those developing countries citizens won't be able to reach our levels of living because of our past actions?

Are you whinging?

no she is

[Guest]

no she is

Isn't using a female carer just adding to the myth?

[Finnegan]

What an example of a hard done to society.

bottom wiping please.

The **** are you on about now?

[leicsmac]

Not really. The standard of living for those in the UK will still be much higher than the vast majority of the world and of our ancestors. We were just incredibly lucky (and naive and wasteful...) Do you feel angry that those developing countries citizens won't be able to reach our levels of living because of our past actions?

Fair enough. As to your question...yeah, I feel annoyed that Western countries have a long and distinguished record of exploiting developing countries...which in this globalised world now actually ADDS to the job problem here. Why pay someone in the UK minimum wage when you can pay someone else in a different country a fifth of that?

I just feel that (having seen a fair few of my friends on the employment scrapheap despite many, many job applications) there is something wrong with people not responsible for this problem having to take the consequences of it. And why should they just blindly accept the present situation? I know the 'real world' (as people like to put it) is bloody tough, but not everyone should be so cynical to think it can't be changed.

[Webbo]

Switzerland is the best place to be born in 2013, a new global survey laying bare the 'lottery of life' reveals.

Babies born in the land-locked nation of just 8million are the 'luckiest' in the world according to researchers who also named Nigeria as the worst place to start life.

Britain is ranked just 27th, behind the likes of South Korea, Kuwait and Chile, and well down on the 7th place it achieved in a similar survey 25 years ago.

http://www.dailymail...an-Ireland.html

[Guest]

Fair enough. As to your question...yeah, I feel annoyed that Western countries have a long and distinguished record of exploiting developing countries...which in this globalised world now actually ADDS to the job problem here. Why pay someone in the UK minimum wage when you can pay someone else in a different country a fifth of that?

I just feel that (having seen a fair few of my friends on the employment scrapheap despite many, many job applications) there is something wrong with people not responsible for this problem having to take the consequences of it. And why should they just blindly accept the present situation? I know the 'real world' (as people like to put it) is bloody tough, but not everyone should be so cynical to think it can't be changed.

I don't disagree with your sentiments but the depletion of natural resources cannot be changed nor the fact that the next generation are going to have to pay for that in a multitude of ways that will mean a lowering of their standard of living. I think they have to remember however that their standard of living is still incredibly high compared to the the vast majority of human beings that have ever lived. I also happen to think that the present young generation really don't understand the "cost" of things as the older generation didn't in their turn. however a lot of the older generation understood the effort needed, too many of the young generation have had everything given to them on a plate and "expected" that to continue throughout adulthood. If anything the older generation have hurt them more there than by wasting resources without thinking of longer term implications. Value and cost are alien concepts to many of the X-Box generation.

[Guest]

http://www.dailymail...an-Ireland.html

I guess this is down to factors chosen.

Even though I'm arguing the point that the new generation is less well off than the last, there is no way that I'd put Britain below a number of those countries ranked above them.

[Webbo]

I guess this is down to factors chosen.

Even though I'm arguing the point that the new generation is less well off than the last, there is no way that I'd put Britain below a number of those countries ranked above them.

I'm not sure what it means really, I saw it in the paper and just thought it was interesting.

[Captain...]

If you quit a job you shouldn't complain about not having another - not the poster was, they came across as very reasonable - I've found it is always looked upon better by a potential employer if you are in a job. At a time when it isn't piss easy to get a job of your desire any job is better than none (at least it should be though it clearly isn't) you shouldn't quit a job.

To me it's unrealistic entitlement that thinks you merit a better job than you are accepted for or able to get. It's a common delusion in today's world. I honestly believe that the halcyon days have now ended and reality is the next generation is going to be "poorer" than that of the end of the millenium.

But then there is also the prospect of being stuck in a dead end job which won't lead you to where you want to be, I don't think many expect to walk into their dream job, but if you are not even on a path to it, then it is sometimes better to stop heading in the wrong direction, or down a cul-de-sac, and start again from the beginning.

[Charl91]

Great start. so you have some level of intelligence and you have some experience. Pub work involves a lot of transferable skills. Still you had a job and you quit it - was it beneath you? do you feel that you are entitled to better? You should have stuck with it until you could get a better job and then left.

But yes, I do believe I was entitled better then that pub job. It was about ten hours a week at minimum wage, with an hour travel each way. Then 20% of my wages went on transport. Quite often I would turn up to a shift and be told not to log on to the tills (which record our hours) because I wasn't needed yet, so would have to sit around for an hour unpaid. I don't care about luxuries, but I couldn't afford to eat - since I didn't claim benefits, my monthly budget after bills (not including food!) was negative £30 a month; basically if I only paid my rent/utilities and didn't spend anything else I would only lose thirty quid a month. So like I said, I do believe I was entitled to better then that; I believe any person is.

But nice job at jumping to conclusions. I HAVE a new job, I work for a 3D printing company - that's why I quit. I also spend at least one day a week getting work experience at local schools so I can try and get onto this bloody teaching course that I've been trying years to get on to. But you carry on with your false assumption that everyone is lazy and believe that they are entitled to everything.

Yes, some people do believe that, and are lazy. But it's ignorant to assume that everyone puts in minimal effort.

[leicsmac]

I don't disagree with your sentiments but the depletion of natural resources cannot be changed nor the fact that the next generation are going to have to pay for that in a multitude of ways that will mean a lowering of their standard of living. I think they have to remember however that their standard of living is still incredibly high compared to the the vast majority of human beings that have ever lived. I also happen to think that the present young generation really don't understand the "cost" of things as the older generation didn't in their turn. however a lot of the older generation understood the effort needed, too many of the young generation have had everything given to them on a plate and "expected" that to continue throughout adulthood. If anything the older generation have hurt them more there than by wasting resources without thinking of longer term implications. Value and cost are alien concepts to many of the X-Box generation.

True. I think a lot of understanding the 'cost' of things is also to do with the fact that the last two generations haven't gone through the true adversity that is mass warfare, either. The generation after WW2 had things handed to them 'on a plate' as you put it, and as a result they convinced this generation that they were going to be the same. Now that it's not...that leads to a lot of disillusion. When you get told to go to uni and do a degree to stand a chance of getting a decent job, then when you come out and they're few and far between (in direct contrast to the BS you have been fed), the impulse to shoot the messenger is rather high. Some of that is the fault of the person themselves for being naive, but a lot of it is the fault of those who convinced them it would be the case.

But going back the original point...to get more young people into work there has to be more restructuring as there simply aren't enough jobs out there, both requiring a degree and not. Most people want to work a fair day's job for a fair days pay, but at the moment many simply don't have a chance.

[indierich06]

Because those with their degrees think that entitles them to some high paid starter job. The problem with so many people in this thread is that you all think you're entitled to some magnificent wage with no experience. The world has changed. Getting a degree is pretty easy, it doesn't mean that you can do a particular job in many cases. It's a bit like those 40 years ago who thought that getting an 11+ or an O level entitled them to a job and a good wage. And for the whingers defending people not getting degrees not having jobs get real. learn how to paint or garden and then go and look for painting and gardening jobs. Ask plumbers to take you on as low paid skivvies and learn a trade...

Almost everyone living in the UK has a cushy childhood and life, but if you want to earn money then you've got to put some work into it and make some effort. And Rincewind - I'm not talking about your age range, that's another problem. I'm talking about all these entitled kids who feel sorry for themselves because they can't walk into a £25K job when they're ready to work after taking some time for a laugh after finishing education.

And Whoever said that you can't get free education , of course you can or as good as. You go to people and work for free and learn, you go on the internet and learn, you go to libraries and learn, you go to the job centre and take whatever there is. Too many people think that too many jobs are below them. get over yourselves, there is work out there it just doesn't come with the glossy tag that you want or the wonderful pay. Surprise surprise you have to work up to that and earn it. The second half of the 20th Century has been such an easy number for so many that the kids of that generation don't know what work really is.

Agreed. I did loads of unpaid internships and work experience during and after uni and I still struggled. Signed on for a bit, got a job working in a pub, worked for a loss adjustors for a while too, all on minimum wage and about two years ago after applying for hundreds of jobs, I've finally got a fairly decent position down in London. I could do with a bit more money, but I'm staying here for the time being to get plenty of experience under my belt so that the next job I go for, hopefully I can command a bit of a higher wage.

Nothing in life comes easy, you have to work bloody hard for it and at the end of the day, I think that's a lot more rewarding than just being handed everything on a plate.

[Captain...]

True. I think a lot of understanding the 'cost' of things is also to do with the fact that the last two generations haven't gone through the true adversity that is mass warfare, either. The generation after WW2 had things handed to them 'on a plate' as you put it, and as a result they convinced this generation that they were going to be the same. Now that it's not...that leads to a lot of disillusion. When you get told to go to uni and do a degree to stand a chance of getting a decent job, then when you come out and they're few and far between (in direct contrast to the BS you have been fed), the impulse to shoot the messenger is rather high. Some of that is the fault of the person themselves for being naive, but a lot of it is the fault of those who convinced them it would be the case.

But going back the original point...to get more young people into work there has to be more restructuring as there simply aren't enough jobs out there, both requiring a degree and not. Most people want to work a fair day's job for a fair days pay, but at the moment many simply don't have a chance.

Things will change, it wasn't BS, most people didn't expect this economic downturn, and even those that did didn't think it would last so long.

It may even get worse before it gets better, but hopefully a change will come soon, and we will readjust our way of thinking and living and whilst it may not return to the levels of 5 years ago, things will get better.

[Guest]

Came out of University with a 2.1. Ended up working at a pub for £250 a month. Finally quit that, but things still aren't looking much better.

But yes, I do believe I was entitled better then that pub job. It was about ten hours a week at minimum wage, with an hour travel each way. Then 20% of my wages went on transport. Quite often I would turn up to a shift and be told not to log on to the tills (which record our hours) because I wasn't needed yet, so would have to sit around for an hour unpaid. I don't care about luxuries, but I couldn't afford to eat - since I didn't claim benefits, my monthly budget after bills (not including food!) was negative £30 a month; basically if I only paid my rent/utilities and didn't spend anything else I would only lose thirty quid a month. So like I said, I do believe I was entitled to better then that; I believe any person is.

But nice job at jumping to conclusions. I HAVE a new job, I work for a 3D printing company - that's why I quit. I also spend at least one day a week getting work experience at local schools so I can try and get onto this bloody teaching course that I've been trying years to get on to. But you carry on with your false assumption that everyone is lazy and believe that they are entitled to everything.

Yes, some people do believe that, and are lazy. But it's ignorant to assume that everyone puts in minimal effort.

Sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion - but any semi-intelligent or better person would make a conclusion based on stated facts. Your one liner finished saying that you'd quit and things aren't looking much better. Now you state that you actually moved to another job working for a 3D printing company. I think the obvious conclusion of not much better than shit is shit.

I actually complemented you on going out and taking any job you could and again I'll complement you on doing a day's training a week. I think if you re-read what I said I stated that you weren't lazy and putting in minimal effort.

I did state that you were feeling entitled to a better job. I'll restate that after reading yoursecond post. It would seem that at the moment you are not good enough to get the job that you feel entitled too but at least you are continuing to improve your skill set to eventually get it. For that I give you the highest praise I can.

Is that clear enough for you?

You are definitely not a person whinging because you you haven't got the job you feel entitled to. you are a person who is working towards a job they feel entitled to but who doesn't yet have the requisite skills to get that job.