davieG Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 BBC One in 10 young people feel they cannot cope with day-to-day life - with those not in work, education or training more than twice as likely to feel this way - according to a Prince's Trust survey. The annual Youth Index report questioned 2,136 16 to 25-year-olds. A total of 27% of respondents in work feel down or depressed always or often, compared with 48% who were not in education, employment or training. It also found 22% did not have someone to talk to about their problems. The 2012 report discovered 52% of so-called NEETs said they often or always felt depressed. The index, now in its fifth year, gauges young people's happiness across a range of areas, from family life to physical and mental health. Despite the pressures many are facing, it shows relatively slight changes in overall confidence and happiness amongst young people, says BBC social affairs correspondent Alison Holt. Martina Milburn, chief executive of The Prince's Trust, said: "A frightening number of unemployed young people feel unable to cope - and it is particularly tough for those who don't have a support network in place. "We know at The Prince's Trust that it is often those from the most vulnerable backgrounds who end up furthest from the job market. "Life can become a demoralising downward spiral - from a challenging childhood into life as a jobless adult. But, with the right support, we can help get these lives on track."
davieG Posted 2 January 2013 Author Posted 2 January 2013 BBC It would be interesting to see how that compares with other groups and the population as a whole, I worked a lot with young people and recruited many apprentices so appreciate how difficult it is for them but I'm not convinced that other groups and percentages and significantly different. We live in a very materialistic society where it's so important 'to have'.
MooseBreath Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Must be pretty hard to have no hope in life and no sign of anythinh improving. The only thing that gets me through the days living and working in this country is the potential of escaping, both with short term holidays and long term to gtfo and never look back. God knows how these kids can get up on the morning when they have no prospects whatsoever
Guest Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Just stop whinging and do something about it. ****ing losers.
Finnegan Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Just stop whinging and do something about it. ****ing losers. Have you and Moose swapped accounts? You've always been a twat but I never thought you were that mindless.
MooseBreath Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Have you and Moose swapped accounts? You've always been a twat but I never thought you were that mindless. She is particularly angry today. Must be that time of the month. Or else maybe she didn't get enough cock over Christmas.
Finnegan Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 She is particularly angry today. Must be that time of the month. Or else maybe she didn't get enough cock over Christmas. You're a master of implying-everyone-is-gay-or-a-woman wit.
Guest Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Have you and Moose swapped accounts? You've always been a twat but I never thought you were that mindless. I am what I am, I accept it and post what I feel at the time. Our society has to many people who are happy to whinge about what they haven't got and what they can't do as opposed to seeing what they have got and actually making an effort to do something about what they feel they can't/don't have. If your level of education isn't good enough then it's easy to improve it without spending a penny. If you are young and haven't got a job then lower your expectations or go and do some voluntary work and get experience. If you don't have someone to talk about your problems go and fin,d someone - if that's your need. Everyone of the whingers is better off than billions of people on this planet AND they are nearly all in a position to be able to improve their own lot with a little bit of effort.
Guest Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 You're a master of implying-everyone-is-gay-or-a-woman wit. Was there anything masterful about his sentence at all. And yes I do realise that some of the things I say are Moosebreath-like. It makes me feel ashamed but there you go - I do realise that there are many significant differences between me and Moose. I've never worked in McDonalds for a start.
Finnegan Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 "If your level of education isn't good enough it's easy to improve it" what ****ing over privileged planet are you from? Jesus wept. Why is it the most sheltered and ignorant are usually the first to take an ironically uneducated pop at those who are struggling?
Guest BlueBrett Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 If your level of education isn't good enough then it's easy to improve it without spending a penny. If you are young and haven't got a job then lower your expectations or go and do some voluntary work and get experience. If you don't have someone to talk about your problems go and fin,d someone - if that's your need. How? I mean obviously you can join a library and put together a reading course for yourself but how will that help in a practical sense? Employers want qualifications and those cost money. Even if you have the intelligence and commitment to learn the course independently it still costs money to enroll for exams. Don't really see how putting yourself up for exploitation through voluntary work will help either - and if you don't live in a city it is impossible anyway when your only income is JSA.
ADK Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Its not easy at all, there's a reason why so many young people are unemployed. It's not because young people today are lazier, less motivated or less capable than those from past generations. That would make no sense. I don't know many qualifications that are free and actually make a difference
bmt Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Just stop whinging and do something about it. ****ing losers. Wow!
MooseBreath Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 I would guess a fair few of the young unemployed are degree-educated as well. Maybe they chose crap subjects, but that's what happens when you ask 15-year-olds to start choosing their path in life. I'm very much in the anti-entitlement-culture camp, but the fact is that a generation ago you could do a two-year college course and very quickly become a decent level professional with a salary high enough to afford to raise a family in your own house. These days that is largely out of the question. You now get kids who have done everything they were told to do - stay in school, go to uni, get some experience - and yet they can still find themselves on the scrapheap or struggling in low paid dead end jobs.
z-layrex Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 I wake up every day feeling like I can't cope even though I know I have a wonderful life. The doctor referred me to get some help and they just stopped getting in contact after a few weeks. Not sure what to do now. Go back to the GP I guess.
ithuriel Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 One of the reasons is the last Labour government brought in paperwork required for almost every job going. An example, when i worked security in the 90s inbetween jobs all that was required was a ten year checkable history, now you need a license which costs money to get before you consider looking and it is the same with so many jobs now. Licenses in these jobs guarantee nothing either for the person looking for work or the employer and are more a way for the government to make money, an example being forklift drivers where experience is more important than a piece of paper paid for after doing a course that lasts a couple of days.
Charl91 Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Came out of University with a 2.1. Ended up working at a pub for £250 a month. Finally quit that, but things still aren't looking much better.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 It would be interesting to see how that compares with other groups and the population as a whole, I worked a lot with young people and recruited many apprentices so appreciate how difficult it is for them but I'm not convinced that other groups and percentages and significantly different. We live in a very materialistic society where it's believed to be so important 'to have'. Corrected! (I suspect that's what you meant anyway.)
Zingari Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Modern life is rubbish. Hunter-gathering was so much more rewarding
purpleronnie Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Must be pretty hard to have no hope in life and no sign of anythinh improving. The only thing that gets me through the days living and working in this country is the potential of escaping, both with short term holidays and long term to gtfo and never look back. God knows how these kids can get up on the morning when they have no prospects whatsoever Its the same pretty much everywhere and in some cases its much worse elsewhere, i know someone who is desperate to come back to the UK but simply cant due to the housing market collasping and she is unable to sell her home, I remember leaving school in the early 90's with unemployment worse than it is now and not knowing what I wanted to do ,but you have to carry on through it and hope things work out and they almost always do.
Guest Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 I would guess a fair few of the young unemployed are degree-educated as well. Maybe they chose crap subjects, but that's what happens when you ask 15-year-olds to start choosing their path in life. Because those with their degrees think that entitles them to some high paid starter job. The problem with so many people in this thread is that you all think you're entitled to some magnificent wage with no experience. The world has changed. Getting a degree is pretty easy, it doesn't mean that you can do a particular job in many cases. It's a bit like those 40 years ago who thought that getting an 11+ or an O level entitled them to a job and a good wage. And for the whingers defending people not getting degrees not having jobs get real. learn how to paint or garden and then go and look for painting and gardening jobs. Ask plumbers to take you on as low paid skivvies and learn a trade... Almost everyone living in the UK has a cushy childhood and life, but if you want to earn money then you've got to put some work into it and make some effort. And Rincewind - I'm not talking about your age range, that's another problem. I'm talking about all these entitled kids who feel sorry for themselves because they can't walk into a £25K job when they're ready to work after taking some time for a laugh after finishing education. And Whoever said that you can't get free education , of course you can or as good as. You go to people and work for free and learn, you go on the internet and learn, you go to libraries and learn, you go to the job centre and take whatever there is. Too many people think that too many jobs are below them. get over yourselves, there is work out there it just doesn't come with the glossy tag that you want or the wonderful pay. Surprise surprise you have to work up to that and earn it. The second half of the 20th Century has been such an easy number for so many that the kids of that generation don't know what work really is.
Guest Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Came out of University with a 2.1. Ended up working at a pub for £250 a month. Finally quit that, but things still aren't looking much better. Great start. so you have some level of intelligence and you have some experience. Pub work involves a lot of transferable skills. Still you had a job and you quit it - was it beneath you? do you feel that you are entitled to better? You should have stuck with it until you could get a better job and then left.
Captain... Posted 2 January 2013 Posted 2 January 2013 Great start. so you have some level of intelligence and you have some experience. Pub work involves a lot of transferable skills. Still you had a job and you quit it - was it beneath you? do you feel that you are entitled to better? You should have stuck with it until you could get a better job and then left. I would guess motivation, it is easy to get stuck in a job you don't like and not find the time or make the effort to find another job, I think it was called "the fear" in Friends. It isn't always easy to look for another job whilst in employment, especially if that job brings you down and sucks out all of your motivation and spirit. It also frees you up to try other things like move to another city or country, take a chance, or do some voluntary work.
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