MooseBreath Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Anybody hear this story? The police in Manchester have come up with an idea to care more about crimes where the victimes have dodgy fashion sense and listen to crap music. Another blow to the ordinary working man. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22026044
AoWW Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 If anyone can recommend a really good black eyeliner that doesn't smudge, I'd love to hear about it.
Deucalion Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 So just because I look like this on a Saturday night, some chav should be able to beat me up?
Guest Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 But we can still persecute vegetarians, right? I find they're best sautéed but whatever floats your boat
The Doctor Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 I find they're best sautéed but whatever floats your boat Deep Fried, everything is better deep-fried - particularly in a fuck-ton of batter.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Deep Fried, everything is better deep-fried - particularly in a ****-ton of batter. Must... res... ist... Scott... ish... stereo-type...
Finnegan Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Cultural subdivisions of kids have been kicking the shit out of each other since fashion began. Every generation has it's own mods and rockers. Chavs and emos might be the most pathetic yet but it doesn't really make it any worse an issue. Christ. Must... res... ist... Scott... ish... stereo-type... Why must you resist it when he's intentionally playing on it?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Cultural subdivisions of kids have been kicking the shit out of each other since fashion began. Every generation has it's own mods and rockers. Chavs and emos might be the most pathetic yet but it doesn't really make it any worse an issue. Christ. Why must you resist it when he's intentionally playing on it? Shut it Taffy!
leicsmac Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Moose in dislike-of-support-for-minority-group shocker. But in all seriousness, if these folks are being attacked because they dress differently, then in the interests of freedom of expression the fuzz should be looking at it. Not because they're different, but because it's a potential source of criminal cases and that's their job. If people want to dress like that and listen to (shit) music they should be able to do that without being afraid of getting a kicking. As Finn says, this is hardly a new phenomenon. PS. Who actually is the 'ordinary working man'?
The Doctor Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Must... res... ist... Scott... ish... stereo-type... What finners said. Although actually, deep-fried curly-wurlies are lovely.
Captain... Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 So just because I look like this on a Saturday night, some chav should be able to beat me up? Just because I don't should it matter more that you got beaten up than me?
21st Century Fox Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Moose in dislike-of-support-for-minority-group shocker. But in all seriousness, if these folks are being attacked because they dress differently, then in the interests of freedom of expression the fuzz should be looking at it. Not because they're different, but because it's a potential source of criminal cases and that's their job. If people want to dress like that and listen to (shit) music they should be able to do that without being afraid of getting a kicking. As Finn says, this is hardly a new phenomenon. PS. Who actually is the 'ordinary working man'? How to you expect Moose to attain his tingly, sensationalisation induced boner when you bring rational argument into it?
MooseBreath Posted 4 April 2013 Author Posted 4 April 2013 How to you expect Moose to attain his tingly, sensationalisation induced boner when you bring rational argument into it? Behave. It's more of a raw, testosterone charge rape bat than a "tingly little boner", you disgusting faggot.
MooseBreath Posted 4 April 2013 Author Posted 4 April 2013 Moose in dislike-of-support-for-minority-group shocker. But in all seriousness, if these folks are being attacked because they dress differently, then in the interests of freedom of expression the fuzz should be looking at it. Not because they're different, but because it's a potential source of criminal cases and that's their job. If people want to dress like that and listen to (shit) music they should be able to do that without being afraid of getting a kicking. As Finn says, this is hardly a new phenomenon. PS. Who actually is the 'ordinary working man'? I'm sure that's all great but there was a police chap on the radio earlier comparing committing a crime against a goth with racism. If you're gonna wear shit clothes expect to get picked on. Simple as that.
21st Century Fox Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 Behave. It's more of a raw, testosterone charge rape bat than a "tingly little boner", you disgusting faggot. Who said 'little'?
leicsmac Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 I'm sure that's all great but there was a police chap on the radio earlier comparing committing a crime against a goth with racism. If you're gonna wear shit clothes expect to get picked on. Simple as that. Fair enough, but on the same note the police have got to be ready to do their jobs and collar the folks who do that. And seeing as it has become a more prevalent problem recently it's probably going to need more police time and resources to handle. You're right - this isn't about race, it's just about an increased amount of assaults that need to be dealt with like any other. As I said before, people should be free to wear what they like (legally) in this country without the fear of someone giving them a beating for it. We don't do that, we're no better than various repressive countries around the world.
Vacamion Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 expect to get picked on No. No one should "expect to get picked on". It smacks of tolerating people getting picked on or even wishing that they will get picked on. People should be allowed to get on with their lives if they are consenting adults who harm no one else.
Zingari Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 I can’t see why all unprovoked attacks against anyone for whatever reason aren’t treated equally, and that includes racial, homophobic etc. You could go on forever adding new groups to the list of special cases. If you’re attacked it’s the severity of the attack that should determine the seriousness of the crime, nothing else.
MooseBreath Posted 4 April 2013 Author Posted 4 April 2013 I can’t see why all unprovoked attacks against anyone for whatever reason aren’t treated equally, and that includes racial, homophobic etc. You could go on forever adding new groups to the list of special cases. If you’re attacked it’s the severity of the attack that should determine the seriousness of the crime, nothing else. One might argue that while you cannot choose your race, you certainly can chose not to wear pink fluffy moon boots when you're an overweight 40-year-old man and if you do insist on doing so, you shouldn't be surprised when people see you as a target.
leicsmac Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 One might argue that while you cannot choose your race, you certainly can chose not to wear pink fluffy moon boots when you're an overweight 40-year-old man and if you do insist on doing so, you shouldn't be surprised when people see you as a target. Nope. Freedom. Of. Choice. They may look frigging stupid, but it's their absolute right to wear stuff like that and not be seen as a target.
MooseBreath Posted 4 April 2013 Author Posted 4 April 2013 Nope. Freedom. Of. Choice. They may look frigging stupid, but it's their absolute right to wear stuff like that and not be seen as a target. Reminds me of the whole slutwalk thing. It is your right to walk through some dodgy estate in east London at 4am wearing a £17,000 Rolex and not have it stolen, but yeah good luck with that.
leicsmac Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 I can’t see why all unprovoked attacks against anyone for whatever reason aren’t treated equally, and that includes racial, homophobic etc. You could go on forever adding new groups to the list of special cases. If you’re attacked it’s the severity of the attack that should determine the seriousness of the crime, nothing else. Agree with this. As I've said before, we're all human. However if there is a larger number of a particular demographic being attacked, the police should devote a larger proportion of it's resources to that demographic accordingly.
Vacamion Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 One might argue that while you cannot choose your race, you certainly can chose not to wear pink fluffy moon boots when you're an overweight 40-year-old man and if you do insist on doing so, you shouldn't be surprised when people see you as a target. Who are you to decide what makes someone a target? What if the world decides that you dress like "a target" and picks on you? Again, your post suggests that it is OK or even correct to pick on people who are different or whom you don't like for whatever reason. I'm as adverse to "guyliner" or pink moon boots as the next man, but if someone else wants to wear stuff or believe stuff which is within the law and harms no one, then I say let them do it.
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