Is the City of Leicester a dump?

[sharpylcfc]

2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Should of made it clearer the ones causing trouble or completely off their face and don't know what they're doing or where they are, see a lot of trouble on Granby Street with them especially near the bookies.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

1 hour ago, sharpylcfc said:

Being completely honest I avoid town as much as possible now, it just don't feel safe in town anymore, unfortunately it doesn't help with people off their heads and homeless on every corner. Don't know how true this is but apparently police have been stripped of their powers to move homeless on.

 

People keep saying town "doesn't feel safe anymore" as a throwaway line but apart from an upsurge in Deliveroo folk being helmets I don't think town particularly feels any more unsafe than it has in my 15/16 years going out in it.

[MattFox]

Barnes moving to Newcastle clearly did Terrace in

[SecretPro]

39 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

People keep saying town "doesn't feel safe anymore" as a throwaway line but apart from an upsurge in Deliveroo folk being helmets I don't think town particularly feels any more unsafe than it has in my 15/16 years going out in it.

It definitely does IMO. Anything outside of the lanes in terms of the City Centre is ****ing grim. 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

1 minute ago, SecretPro said:

It definitely does IMO. Anything outside of the lanes in terms of the City Centre is ****ing grim. 

 

No it isn't  

[SecretPro]

3 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

No it isn't  

Tell me the nice bits of the City Centre.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with Stoneygate and Clarry Park on my doorstep, but the actual City Centre, nah, no thanks. 

 

I've worked in crime for 19 years this year, and I know for 100% certainty this is the worst its been, the last 18 months particularly. 

 

A few months ago a dodgy batch of smack went out and put 35 in hospital, with 5 found dead on the streets. Its a shit show out there. 

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Tell me the nice bits of the City Centre.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with Stoneygate and Clarry Park on my doorstep, but the actual City Centre, nah, no thanks. 

 

I've worked in crime for 19 years this year, and I know for 100% certainty this is the worst its been, the last 18 months particularly. 

 

A few months ago a dodgy batch of smack went out and put 35 in hospital, with 5 found dead on the streets. Its a shit show out there. 

The ladies in Platinum Lace is nice

[SecretPro]

7 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Tell me the nice bits of the City Centre.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with Stoneygate and Clarry Park on my doorstep, but the actual City Centre, nah, no thanks. 

 

I've worked in crime for 19 years this year, and I know for 100% certainty this is the worst its been, the last 18 months particularly. 

 

A few months ago a dodgy batch of smack went out and put 35 in hospital, with 5 found dead on the streets. Its a shit show out there. 

To add to this, today I was stood outside my office when two (what looks like 10 year olds) literally tried to run off with a Deliveroo drivers moped, in broad daylight, in a busy city centre. The Bench outside my work, which I might add is utterly swamped with CCTV and is walked past pretty much constantly by plod, is just a constant stream of people gathering and passing out wraps to eachother, so nonchalant, not even making the faintest effort to hide it.

 

There's a well known crack house on Rupert Street where you can literally see people queuing up at certain times of the day. 

 

Sit and have a pint outside the blue boar and enjoy the show. 

 

And this is what I'd consider the 'better side' of the city. Clock tower, Charles Street, well, **** me. 

Edited 10 October 2024 by SecretPro

[Zear0]

1 minute ago, Dr The Singh said:

The ladies in Platinum Lace is nice

Nice? Last time I went there, one of the girls went straight from the stage to working the door. Serve us right for having a mid-week stag. 

Edited 10 October 2024 by Zear0

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

8 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Tell me the nice bits of the City Centre.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with Stoneygate and Clarry Park on my doorstep, but the actual City Centre, nah, no thanks. 

 

I've worked in crime for 19 years this year, and I know for 100% certainty this is the worst its been, the last 18 months particularly. 

 

A few months ago a dodgy batch of smack went out and put 35 in hospital, with 5 found dead on the streets. Its a shit show out there. 

 

Cultural Quarter, New Walk, Newarke Houses / the Castle, St Martins.

 

A dodgy batch of smack isn't going to add to a ubiquitous, all-encompassing fear of danger to me, really? It just doesn't feel any unsafer to me, an average Joe going for a bev every now and then. I don't think it's a reason to avoid town altogether.

Edited 10 October 2024 by Miquel The Work Geordie

[SecretPro]

2 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Cultural Quarter, New Walk, Newarke Houses / the Castle.

 

A dodgy batch of smack isn't going to add to a ubiquitous, all-encompassing fear of danger to me, really? It just doesn't feel any unsafer to me, an average Joe going for a bev every now and then. I don't think it's a reason to avoid town altogether.

Pretty to look at areas, yes, though I wouldn't really class the Old Town as the City Centre now. 

 

Until a few weeks ago when the Police shifted then there were tents of homeless on The Oval at New-walk. Also been a big problem with Smackheads shooting up in New Walk Museum toilets (as needle exchange is nearby) - school trips there daily, not great is it. Have also seen multiple bumfights and been accosted numerous times walking down New Walk at 7:30am over the year on my way to work in the morning. 

[westernpark]

Leicester is as safe as any other City. 

[SecretPro]

Just now, westernpark said:

Leicester is as safe as any other City. 

Most City Centres have suffered, no doubt about it, but thats not the argument. The argument is its no more unsafe or violent than it was 15/20 years go. Statistically, yes it is, definitely, 100%, especially crime in daylight hours. 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Just now, SecretPro said:

Pretty to look at areas, yes, though I wouldn't really class the Old Town as the City Centre now. 

 

Until a few weeks ago when the Police shifted then there were tents of homeless on The Oval at New-walk. Also been a big problem with Smackheads shooting up in New Walk Museum toilets (as needle exchange is nearby) - school trips there daily, not great is it. Have also seen multiple bumfights and been accosted numerous times walking down New Walk at 7:30am over the year on my way to work in the morning. 

 

I'd class it as the City Centre.

 

That's fair enough brother, town just really doesn't feel any more dangerous from my POV than it did say a decade back, I wasn't arguing against statistics and I definitely wasn't insinuating it's paradise. I've seen plenty of the same issues in Leeds and I'd say exactly the same about up there too.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Just now, SecretPro said:

Most City Centres have suffered, no doubt about it, but thats not the argument. The argument is its no more unsafe or violent than it was 15/20 years go. Statistically, yes it is, definitely, 100%, especially crime in daylight hours. 

 

No it wasn't. I said it doesn't feel any more unsafe.

[SecretPro]

5 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

No it wasn't. I said it doesn't feel any more unsafe.

And I'm glad you don't feel unsafe, but I can certainly see why some people do. Everyone has their own experience, and if you're a bloke probably your experience is completely different to if you were a woman for instance, Footfall is down in the City in daylight hours (don't know about nights, because it's largely such a wank scene now that I don't bother) quite dramatically at the minute and time and again we are seeing that one of the reasons for that is because people feel less safe.

Edited 10 October 2024 by SecretPro

[westernpark]

Another thing that I find frustrating is those who call the city unsafe, less so on this forum but then don’t live in the city. I live in the city, work in the city, shop in the city and do everything else in Leicester. I don’t feel unsafe. 
But maybe those who visit from the county or further afield do. 

[SecretPro]

Just now, westernpark said:

Another thing that I find frustrating is those who call the city unsafe, less so on this forum but then don’t live in the city. I live in the city, work in the city, shop in the city and do everything else in Leicester. I don’t feel unsafe. 
But maybe those who visit from the county or further afield do. 

I live in the city boundary, but in a nice part of it. I walk into the centre and out of the centre daily via Vicky Park and New Walk and I work in the City Centre, do most of my shopping around the city during my lunch break, and my job is crime and crime statistics based and dealing with offenders - when some of the offenders who you've know for well over a decade are telling you it's chaos, then it's generally chaos. Luckily most of us aren't part of that specific world, but that specific worls is increasing in visibility to those outside of it, for sure. 

[Guest Lako42]

12 hours ago, SecretPro said:

I live in the city boundary, but in a nice part of it. I walk into the centre and out of the centre daily via Vicky Park and New Walk and I work in the City Centre, do most of my shopping around the city during my lunch break, and my job is crime and crime statistics based and dealing with offenders - when some of the offenders who you've know for well over a decade are telling you it's chaos, then it's generally chaos. Luckily most of us aren't part of that specific world, but that specific worls is increasing in visibility to those outside of it, for sure. 

Social decline is to blame, not Leicester itself. 

 

The country has been utterly neglected by those running it for so long that the deprived social element is growing. 

 

The country as a whole is neglected and it's easier to see. There is a complete lack of respect in society these days. 

[SecretPro]

6 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Social decline is to blame, not Leicester itself. 

 

The country has been utterly neglected by those running it for so long that the deprived social element is growing. 

 

The country as a whole is neglected and it's easier to see. There is a complete lack of respect in society these days. 

Completely agree.

[Stadt]

Granby street feels far worse than it did pre-covid. 

[MattFox]

6 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Granby street feels far worse than it did pre-covid. 

City centre was pretty decent 2015-20 with new openings etc 

 

Since Covid it’s gone completely down hill

 

We’re on the way from being just below the big cities to becoming a Cov/Wolverhampton level city 

[Stadt]

3 minutes ago, MattFox said:

City centre was pretty decent 2015-20 with new openings etc 

 

Since Covid it’s gone completely down hill

 

We’re on the way from being just below the big cities to becoming a Cov/Wolverhampton level city 

It does always feel one step forwards, one step back.

 

Blacks and Size? Both closing down on high street is going to make it feel very barren 

[MattFox]

1 minute ago, Stadt said:

It does always feel one step forwards, one step back.

 

Blacks and Size? Both closing down on high street is going to make it feel very barren 

Size? had a really poor offering compared to Wellgosh and some of their other stores

 

Pilot going the other day is a blow too

 

TBH the demographic that shops in places like this in the city and drinks at terrace is much smaller than it was even 10 years ago

 

Probably a different discussion though 

[Wymsey]

The number of vape shops establishing themselves in towns is quite worrying.

Edited 11 October 2024 by Wymsey