Bulger Killer Set Free

[Nick]

 

Ever think perhaps you go too far?

[The People's Hero]

You are so deep in your views that you cannot accept anything other.

I've taken the liberty of correcting your spelling (I hope that you don't mind).

 

I think this is the biggest example of hypocrisy I've ever seen on foxestalk.

[Rincewind]

I've taken the liberty of correcting your spelling (I hope that you don't mind).

 

I think this is the biggest example of hypocrisy I've ever seen on foxestalk.

Was my comment referring to someone who has never worked visited or spoken to anyone in the prison service?

 

I have been the other way of thinking and now I see I was wrong on some things. I admit that freely. I now have met people that have been offenders worked with them, been inside a prison cell, set up education classes, produced a magazine that is distributed to officials in the prison service and can produce documents relating to re habitation and re-offending.

I appollogise if reconsidering my thoughts on the subject is wrong. I am only human. I did not know that assumptions and generalisations was all the evidence needed.

 

I see that you took one sentence. The rest says much of what I said here.I see nothing wrong with saying that if you want to know something about a subject then it is usually a good idea to ask somebody with more knowledge than yourself.

If you felt ill would you visit a doctor or a greengrocer for advice?

I did that late at night in poor light. The T and Y are next to each other.

[Benji]

 

If you felt ill would you visit a doctor or a greengrocer for advice?

 

 

You realise that doctors aren't qualified to treat people because they've been sick at some point in their lives don't you?

[Rincewind]

It's not just me that thinks that people who are qualified or had experience are more knowledgeable on a subject. than the bloke down the pub or on message-boards. The bloke down the pub and the fellow on the message-board only have opinions which we are all entitled to have.

 

I wanted a video of this character but the only one I found has been blocked by the BBC.

 

You don't want to do it like that.

 

[Guest MattP]

Ironic this has came back up.

Met up yesterday with an old friend, on a few days release after being sentenced to 8 years for drug smuggling a couple of years ago.

Basically said prison is a piece of piss, he has really enjoyed it. Lost about ten stone as well. Will be out properly in October. Even getting some grant somehow to start his company.

Might not be a bad option for some to get some time under your belt.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

And changed their mind within six months which shows just how confident they are in their decision.

 

I often wonder about some of the people on these parole boards when you see half these criminals back in court and what they have done previous. Get the feeling it's the Rincewinds of this world sat on them trying to see the good in everyone rather than taking care of the law abiding society.

 

Hope I'm wrong and we see the last of this guy now, I won't be though. Hopefully someone out there can do us a favour and make sure he never gets a chance to hurt or get his sexual kicks from a child again.

Tend to agree with you. Look how many times killers have been released on parole, only to kill again. So much for other people knowing their jobs. Just how can you read the individual human mind? It's pure guess work.

 

Bring back hanging. They wont re offend then, and give the victim's family the justice they deserve.

[leicsmac]

Tend to agree with you. Look how many times killers have been released on parole, only to kill again. So much for other people knowing their jobs. Just how can you read the individual human mind? It's pure guess work.

 

Bring back hanging. They wont re offend then, and give the victim's family the justice they deserve.

 

What about leaving them to think about what they've done for the rest of their lives? That sounds like a much better option than giving them the quick way out.

 

Of course it's more complicated than that, and the death penalty debate has been done on here to death (no pun intended). But it's not as black and white as some make out.

[Rincewind]

 

What about leaving them to think about what they've done for the rest of their lives? That sounds like a much better option than giving them the quick way out.

 

Of course it's more complicated than that, and the death penalty debate has been done on here to death (no pun intended). But it's not as black and white as some make out.

Black and white is more straightforward though.

[MPH]

If you want to kill someone in the name of justice then yeah. That is pretty barbaric and as a society, we're better than the scum that commit these crimes.

Did he actually abuse kids then or did he have child porn on his computer? I cant remember the story to be honest.

 

 

My friend has a relative who worked on the original murder case  of Poor little James Bulger.

 

 

There are so many details that were not released to the public because they were just so disgusting - Cutting off his Penis was one of the more milder ones...

 

 

These were not just kids who got all confused and got into trouble - their is nothing this man in particular has done to suggest he has changed at all...

 

Could I kill him myself? I don't know... but if It was my son he did it too, absolutely.

 

Would I mind if someone else killed him? I don't think I would.

 

We are not talking about Saudi Arabia that gives someone 20 lashes of a whip for dropping Litter, or cutting someones hand off for stealing food when they were hungry,

 

We are talking about a cold blooded child killer who mutilated  a boy whilst alive and after he was dead too - they didn't stop just because he was dead..

[Rincewind]

Like MPH I am not sure I could do the deed myself. If he did it himself or by someone else they'd be no protest from me But while alive I think he should be treated as humanely as possible mainly because to do otherwise would mean stooping to his level There may be exceptions but would not like to choose who they would be. I have survived over 60 years without resorting to kill a fekkow  human being I see no reason to change. Maybe on my deathbed I can take some old biddy with me.

[Dan]

Prison work camps. Get them manufacturing shed loads of cheap consumer crap which we would otherwise source from China or wherever. Start sentencing people to years of labour instead of years of chilling out. That way the prison makes a bit of money back, maybe even a profit, the prisoners learn work skills, years of labour is much more of a deterrent in the first place, and no British jobs are lost because we only get them doing stuff that is currently done by peasant labour abroad. Win/win/win/win imho.

 

[Dan]

Like MPH I am not sure I could do the deed myself. If he did it himself or by someone else they'd be no protest from me But while alive I think he should be treated as humanely as possible mainly because to do otherwise would mean stooping to his level There may be exceptions but would not like to choose who they would be. I have survived over 60 years without resorting to kill a fekkow  human being I see no reason to change. Maybe on my deathbed I can take some old biddy with me.

 

Stooping to his level?!?!?! Are you serious?

[Guest MattP]

Stooping to his level?!?!?! Are you serious?

 

Made me chuckle as well that.

[Dan]

Made me chuckle as well that.

 

Unbelievable that.

 

Some people are too glued to senseless 'morals' (if you can call it that) that make them cloud common sense. This bloke should be hanged to save everyone time, money, and potentially saving a young child from abuse too.

 

Scum like Venables are beyond repair. There is no argument at all for keeping 'him' alive.

[Rincewind]

Stooping to his level?!?!?! Are you serious?

Only in the sense of killing another human being. We should be better than that.

Don't misunderstand me I'd rather he be kept in prison and if he had an 'accident' I would not protest.

Others on here have said similar. I am only agreeing.

 

My friend has a relative who worked on the original murder case  of Poor little James Bulger.

 

 

There are so many details that were not released to the public because they were just so disgusting - Cutting off his Penis was one of the more milder ones...

 

 

These were not just kids who got all confused and got into trouble - their is nothing this man in particular has done to suggest he has changed at all...

 

Could I kill him myself? I don't know... but if It was my son he did it too, absolutely.

 

Would I mind if someone else killed him? I don't think I would.

 

We are not talking about Saudi Arabia that gives someone 20 lashes of a whip for dropping Litter, or cutting someones hand off for stealing food when they were hungry,

 

We are talking about a cold blooded child killer who mutilated  a boy whilst alive and after he was dead too - they didn't stop just because he was dead..

[The Year Of The Fox]

These are the first ones that would be put down if I had my way, absolutely useless, a stain on society.

 

If they spent half as much time making sure kids like Daniel Pelka/Baby P weren't being violently abused instead of being up in court defending low life scum we might not have young children going through painful deaths at the hands of people incapable of being parents.

 

As long as they make sure they aren't being adopted by UKIP supporters though. Absolutely sickening.

 

 

This is where I swear you are on the wind up sometimes. What right do they have to be asked about anything, they are incapable of managing to get through life without being such a danger to society or themselves that they have to be locked in a cage for a specific time period.

 

Down and Out, Inside 'n' Out, what the fcuk is next that the taxpayer/lottery player is ready to fund?

 

Coming Out? Savilled Out? Out of Benefits? Cameron Out? Bedroom Taxed Out?

Pearson out!

[The Year Of The Fox]

Ironic this has came back up.

Met up yesterday with an old friend, on a few days release after being sentenced to 8 years for drug smuggling a couple of years ago.

Basically said prison is a piece of piss, he has really enjoyed it. Lost about ten stone as well. Will be out properly in October. Even getting some grant somehow to start his company.

Might not be a bad option for some to get some time under your belt.

What was he smuggling? How did he get caught?

[Strokes]

What was he smuggling? How did he get caught?

I hope it was drugs into prison.

[The People's Hero]

Should never be free to walk the streets.

 

Give these kiddie-killers years of hard labour as Moosebreath stated.

[The People's Hero]

It's not just me that thinks that people who are qualified or had experience are more knowledgeable on a subject. than the bloke down the pub or on message-boards. The bloke down the pub and the fellow on the message-board only have opinions which we are all entitled to have.

 

I wanted a video of this character but the only one I found has been blocked by the BBC.

 

You don't want to do it like that.

 

 

You just don't understand what everyone is telling you.

 

To reiterate Benji's point - and to ask you the question again?

 

You realise that doctors aren't qualified to treat people because they've been sick at some point in their lives don't you?

 

The NHS doesn't just try to convince discharged patients on their way out that since they've been sick they might like to become doctors and can they start on Monday.

[Strokes]

Should never be free to walk the streets.

Give these kiddie-killers years of hard labour as Moosebreath stated.

I bet amnesty international would love that.

[The People's Hero]

I bet amnesty international would love that.

 

I bet those that run amnesty international would feel differently if he'd killed their kids.

 

Some people do not deserve our compassion. Absolute scum.

[Strokes]

I bet those that run amnesty international would feel differently if he'd killed their kids.

Some people do not deserve our compassion. Absolute scum.

I totally agree, i worked at amnesty (as a contractor) a few years back. They were not interested in what the person had done to find themselves in a position where their human rights were in question. All of them had their heads up their own backsides, but a powerful organisation these days.

[The People's Hero]

If he kills again - well, how is that going to be explained/justified to the relatives of the victim?
 

I wouldn't shed a tear if his identity was compromised and he got what was coming to him. 

 

He must fear that, which is some form of justice I guess.