Kitchandro Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 I think that's a great thread. Since our demise there has been many clubs who have overtaken us in the public view if 'who's a bigger club'. Wasps will soon get crowds of less than 10,000. Leicester have always been considered a bigger club than Coventry, as have Norwich.
Kitchandro Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 The Jimmy Hill years to relegation was a long time, not just a few seasons! Never understood what Leicester fans have to backup the fact they think they are a bigger club over history. Not worth arguing about as we'll never get back to the level you are currently at. Always had more fans than you, therefore a bigger club. It's not rocket science.
Fox92 Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 The Jimmy Hill years to relegation was a long time, not just a few seasons! Never understood what Leicester fans have to backup the fact they think they are a bigger club over history. Not worth arguing about as we'll never get back to the level you are currently at. Always had more fans than you, therefore a bigger club. It's not rocket science. I wouldn't say its due to fans alone. Also, what if your definition of "always" because Highfield Road and Filbert Street had pretty similar capacities. Coventry did spend a good twenty/thirty years in the top flight (albeit without necessarily winning anything other than in '87). But in terms of honours we do have a bit more than them. The FA Cup is massive (I want us to win it!!) but we have played in five League Cup finals compared to Coventry's two and we've won the Community Shield as well of course. Not going to start a "who is the bigger club" argument, I'm just giving my personal opinion in response to the question from block15ccfc who seems like a decent poster. I still see Coventry as a big club personally - I know there are a lot of big clubs in the third tier yet again this season - and I do hope they get out of all this mess.
Alexikokopops Posted 24 January 2015 Posted 24 January 2015 http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/52914-quot-Smaller-quot-clubs-now-bigger-than-Coventry-City what a deluded cant.. The best thing about that is the confusion between the world "paltry" and chickens But given our poultry though understandable level of support
block15ccfc Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 Always had more fans than you, therefore a bigger club. It's not rocket science. Yeah, but any club who has had any slight bit of success will draw in fans. Lets be honest, what have Coventry City done to attract fans in the last 20 years, it is quite surprising that 8000 still turn up!
Kitchandro Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 Yeah, but any club who has had any slight bit of success will draw in fans. Lets be honest, what have Coventry City done to attract fans in the last 20 years, it is quite surprising that 8000 still turn up! Nah nah nah you're not listening. You've averaged significantly less than us home and away since we had new stadiums and since we were both relegated from the Premiership. Our recent histories aren't all that different. We were both Premier League teams in the 90s (and if you think league cup victories adds thousands to a regular attendance 10-15 years later you're wrong). Then around the early part of the century we both went down, both struggled financially and flirted with relegation again. Whilst our crowds stayed respectable even when things looked down, yours plummeted pretty quickly, which accelerated your demise further. In fact, since you moved to the Ricoh you've never had attendances that warrant a stadium that size. It's not got as much to do with success as it is with you being a smaller club with worse fans. And I don't mean that nastily, I'm just saying it the way it is.
johnny the fox Posted 28 January 2015 Posted 28 January 2015 All I will say is this.. If we had the recent history cov.. (which we would not allow)..we would STILL be getting crowds of 20,000 plus.. I have worked in cov for a lot of years...the mindset is different..
block15ccfc Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 All I will say is this.. If we had the recent history cov.. (which we would not allow)..we would STILL be getting crowds of 20,000 plus.. I have worked in cov for a lot of years...the mindset is different.. I am not too sure any club understands the difficulty in supporting Coventry City and that's why I would doubt any club of our size would be getting crowds much higher than ours. The fact is, since our relegation from the Premier League, we have continually in both the championship and league one, finished towards the bottom of the table, we have had to endure seasons without any funding from our owners. It is even worse now, since being in league one we have had to endure over a season in Northampton and now we play in a ground which is plastered in a rugby clubs branding. Realistically, I can see why you would believe you would get 20,000 because when down in league one you managed that, but you were almost certain of winning games each week and that attracts fans, we haven't had a season where we have looked like going up. Ultimately if we were towards the top of the table right now, we would probably be getting crowds towards well over 15,000 but we aren't, we are in a relegation battle. 7000 for home games is really disappointing, especially considering we took 50% of that figure 5/6 times away last season, but it has got to the stage where I wouldn't blame any supporter for not going, because paying £23 to watching horrific football against teams like Rochdale and Crawley in an empty, soul destroying rugby ground, is painful. Johnny, what do you mean by you 'would not allow'?
johnny the fox Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 I am not too sure any club understands the difficulty in supporting Coventry City and that's why I would doubt any club of our size would be getting crowds much higher than ours. The fact is, since our relegation from the Premier League, we have continually in both the championship and league one, finished towards the bottom of the table, we have had to endure seasons without any funding from our owners. It is even worse now, since being in league one we have had to endure over a season in Northampton and now we play in a ground which is plastered in a rugby clubs branding. Realistically, I can see why you would believe you would get 20,000 because when down in league one you managed that, but you were almost certain of winning games each week and that attracts fans, we haven't had a season where we have looked like going up. Ultimately if we were towards the top of the table right now, we would probably be getting crowds towards well over 15,000 but we aren't, we are in a relegation battle. 7000 for home games is really disappointing, especially considering we took 50% of that figure 5/6 times away last season, but it has got to the stage where I wouldn't blame any supporter for not going, because paying £23 to watching horrific football against teams like Rochdale and Crawley in an empty, soul destroying rugby ground, is painful. Johnny, what do you mean by you 'would not allow'? The fan base and supporters of LCFC would not tolerate an outfit like SISU gutting our club.. It would just not happen... believe me.
block15ccfc Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 The fan base and supporters of LCFC would not tolerate an outfit like SISU gutting our club.. It would just not happen... believe me. What would you do though? We have tried pretty much everything to try and get SISU out and they will not go. I have protested across the country with Coventry and was even one of those who watched every Sixfields game from the hill outside the stadium. Trust me, there is nothing that will make SISU go.
davieG Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 Even through out your 20 plus years in the top tier you were rarely out of the bottom half of the league. When was the last time you were challenging at the top of any league for a sustained period of time. It seems to me you've spent 30 plus years fighting against relegation
block15ccfc Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 Even through out your 20 plus years in the top tier you were rarely out of the bottom half of the league. When was the last time you were challenging at the top of any league for a sustained period of time. It seems to me you've spent 30 plus years fighting against relegation That is the problem, we haven't had anything to shout about bar the FA Cup win. The one thing which attracts support is success and we haven't had that. That is why 31,000 people turned up to watch us play Crewe in a JPT match a few seasons ago...
block15ccfc Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 Just to add, we haven't had a promotion from any league since 1967.
davieG Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 Just to add, we haven't had a promotion from any league since 1967. Isn't that when you got to the top tier for the first time? I started watching lcfc in the early 6Os.and at that time Cov had never been anything other than a parochial lower / non-league club. P'S. I envy your FA Cup success
block15ccfc Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 Isn't that when you got to the top tier for the first time? I started watching lcfc in the early 6Os.and at that time Cov had never been anything other than a parochial lower / non-league club. P'S. I envy your FA Cup success Yes, when we were promoted to Division 1. I envy it too! I was born a few years after that cup win so I haven't seen anything positive whilst supporting Coventry!
Leicesterpool Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 What would you do though? We have tried pretty much everything to try and get SISU out and they will not go. I have protested across the country with Coventry and was even one of those who watched every Sixfields game from the hill outside the stadium. Trust me, there is nothing that will make SISU go. As there ever been talk of forming a rival team in Cov?, like an AFC Coventry City or something. Okay it could mean starting off in lower non league but at least it would mean your were owning your own club. I mean they could ground share with Coventry Rugby Club at Butts Park.
bovril Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 As there ever been talk of forming a rival team in Cov?, like an AFC Coventry City or something. Okay it could mean starting off in lower non league but at least it would mean your were owning your own club. I mean they could ground share with Coventry Rugby Club at Butts Park. Dear God please let this happen.
johnny the fox Posted 1 February 2015 Posted 1 February 2015 What would you do though? We have tried pretty much everything to try and get SISU out and they will not go. I have protested across the country with Coventry and was even one of those who watched every Sixfields game from the hill outside the stadium. Trust me, there is nothing that will make SISU go. LCFC has a lot of major connections and support in the game, compared with cov.. plus the base support would cause such fookin ructions in the city it would not be worth any carpet baggers efforts to try to get away with it.. for me the opposition to SISU has been half hearted from the fans and city..
Fox92 Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 We lost again. Watched the football league show last night. Didn't realise how close you were to relegation.
block15ccfc Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Watched the football league show last night. Didn't realise how close you were to relegation. Yeah, we are right in the thick of it, two of the four teams below us also have a game or two in hand. Luckily this league is awful and it only really takes a win or two to push you into the top half of the table. Lose on Tuesday against a relatively decent side in Scunthorpe and suddenly you do question whether we can stay up. We are currently 3/1 to go down and in the 20s to finish bottom...
craigSBA Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Another coventry fan here , just wanted to point out a couple of things really . I came here to see what had happened to pearson in all honesty and found this thread . Coventry have had a very poor history overall if you take into consideration what exactly we have done , the club never reached the top flight until 67 stayed their until 01 and won the FA cup , thats about as deep as it goes . We made europe once in the early 70s and couldnt play in 87 due to a ban because of liverpool . No doubt leicester city are a bigger club than coventry city now and have been for some 15 years plus .. But thats more to so with attendances realy as you kicked on and we never , our averages over the last 70 years are similar with coventrys highest average being higher , and in the last 15 years you have stood head and shoulders above us . Since 87 leicester have had 8 top 6 finishes , in the last 10 years 2 titles , 2 playoffs and are now playing premier league football ...fact is the club has a level of expectation especially when dropping from the top division . Coventry have had no top 6 finish for over 45 years in any division in the last 14 years , 2 relegations , 2 administrations , moved away from the city , with our highest league position being 8th one season and most seasons being a struggle . the club were averaging 21000 in 2007 and struggling (i think thats decent considering we were shit ) when sisu took over and now we are at i would say 7-9 k , thats a huge drop To the poster that said our recent history has been similar , it has been polar opposite . End of the day i look at it like this , both clubs back in the premier league would be getting like before similar attendances due to stadium sizes (even though ours is owned by a franchise rugby team ) Im 30 and in my lifetime of actually watching city (not 87 because i was too young) i have seen nothing but relegation battles , an 11th placed finish in the prem once , an 8th placed finish in the championship once and all the above as mentioned , now compare it to the average 30 year old foxes fan , you had alot to shout about compared to us . Anyways good luck this season , hope you stay up , tbh my gripe has never ever been with leicester , i was always bought up to hate the villa ....PUSB
block15ccfc Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Last minute lucky goal grabs us a point against Scunthorpe. Lowest crowd in Coventry for a league game in something like 50 years.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.