fleckneymike Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Portsmouth are still paying him (amongst many many others) £3,581.25. per month for 40 months. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/player-by-player-breakdown-of-what-pompey-owe-1-5468027
Tom17LCFC Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 That's all terrible but Ben Haim in particular... TAL BEN HAIM £1,633,333.36 – lump-sum payments of £650,000 on Aug 30, 2013 and £150,000 on Aug 31, 2014. 40 months of £20,833.33.
Guest kristianity77 Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 As good as that is for players, you cant help but think that some of these players could walk away from that and not take a penny. Its not like any of them need it
ScouseFox Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Imagine owing Tal Ben Haim over 1.5 million quid. Jeeeeez.
ousefox Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 I was going to post this earlier when it came up on my Twitter. Incredible what a mess that club has got themselves into really.
Fox92 Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Ridiculous and horrid to see. You'd think that they have that much money anyway, they'd be decent enough to say forget it on behalf of the club and the fans.
Dan Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Some of them are compromised already in fairness to the players. Whole situation is an absolute disgrace but it'll happen time and time again.
SystonFox Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 B b b but he is the messiah B b b but he should manage England B b b but he owns transfer deadline day B b b b b b buuuuut DON'T BUY THE SUN
HankMarvin Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 "It's only when you consider that these figures are the compromise figures and if you multiply each by approximately 3.5 you get the actual original figure that would have been owed. This obviously does not include bonuses for "Loyalty" etc."
Grewks Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 I don't agree with all the 'the players don't need it, they should give it back' etc... People live within their means, whether they deserve it or not is a totally different issue to whether or not they should return it, especially when returning the money would only likely result in the past owners finding some way of legally receiving the cash rather than the club.
Guest Col city fan Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 The figures in the upper echelons of football are like Monopoly money. Literally, the bulk of them must wake up everyday and have to pinch themselves. A note to the kids/lads who idolise these players... They are so far removed, financially, from Joe Public that it must be like living in another world to most of us. Fair play, to be a top player demands natural ability and a major work ethic. These fellas are fit as fook. Apparently, on a par with the Royal Marines, for example. So I don't argue that they shouldn't be paid well. But these figures are, dare I say it, obscene? Just a personal view.
Grewks Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 The figures in the upper echelons of football are like Monopoly money. Literally, the bulk of them must wake up everyday and have to pinch themselves. A note to the kids/lads who idolise these players... They are so far removed, financially, from Joe Public that it must be like living in another world to most of us. Fair play, to be a top player demands natural ability and a major work ethic. These fellas are fit as fook. Apparently, on a par with the Royal Marines, for example. So I don't argue that they shouldn't be paid well. But these figures are, dare I say it, obscene? Just a personal view. They are obscene. But...."Don't blame the player blame the game".
Guest Col city fan Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 They are obscene. But...."Don't blame the player blame the game". I don't blame the players at all. If any club wanted to throw money around like confetti in my direction, I'd accept it of course. Shame I was never good enough... The game has gone barmy I'm afraid.
Corky Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 As good as that is for players, you cant help but think that some of these players could walk away from that and not take a penny. Its not like any of them need it I do see that but the club (not these owners in fairness) lived so far beyond their means it's untrue. The players were offered this money and haven't been paid it. Just a shame the current regime has to pick up the bill. Absolute joke how some clubs have been run.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Horrid figures. Those players must have been delighted that Pompey survived when they're getting those pay packets alongside being able to earn at other clubs (some such as Nugent still probably on a fair whack here). Makes you wonder how Pompey can still manage to pay those amounts though. Would be interested to know how much hard ball was played before even reaching those figures in the creditors agreement. A depressing thought is that, whilst nowhere near as bad, I'd imagine our equivalent list reads with things such as 12 x monthly £1,000 payments to Richie Wellens, 24 x monthly £2,000 payments to Jermaine Beckford, 18 x monthly £1,500 payments to Matt Mills... How people can ever expect players to find common ground with the fan on the street when there is money like this floating around, even just to players of a club that was on its knees, I don't know. I mean Jamie Ashdown isn't even worth half of that as a full-time wage, never mind as payments towards what he was originally owed.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Think we know who's to blame here Just as he will be when it all goes tits up at QPR... Saw a press conference with him at the start of the season where in the space of ten minutes he tried to distance himself from any financial dealings yet then proceeded to say what they paid for Remy and how much he thought was a reasonable amount for Newcastle to pay to take him on loan.
DennisNedry Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 As much as I love Nugent, he is an utter cunt for taking money (that he doesn't need) off a struggling club.
Jordan Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Think we know who's to blame here 'Arry never put a gun to their owners' heads and said they were gonna get it if they didn't fork over the transfer funds. This is a lot easier to say in hindsight, but to think some very important people once thought it would be a good idea to let Alexandre Gaydamak run a Premier League professional football club and allow him access to inordinate amounts of credit...
AnotherShitSeason Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Some of them are compromised already in fairness to the players. Whole situation is an absolute disgrace but it'll happen time and time again. Probably to us.
gazfox9 Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 As much as I love Nugent, he is an utter cunt for taking money (that he doesn't need) off a struggling club. Money that he has contractually earnt? Sorry but I disagree. As already mentioned in the thread, its probably only a quarter or so of what he was owed anyway .If the clubs dish out the contracts, they need to deal with the fallout when the sh1t hits the fan.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Money that he has contractually earnt? Sorry but I disagree. As already mentioned in the thread, its probably only a quarter or so of what he was owed anyway .If the clubs dish out the contracts, they need to deal with the fallout when the sh1t hits the fan. I think it's a difficult one. Legally he's entitled to that money no doubt about it. Morally it probably doesn't sit right with a lot of football fans because football clubs have an added dimension to businesses. If football clubs were purely businesses then clubs like Pompey and us would be out of existence (and therefore unable to hand contracts like that to players such as Nugent) because the product that they served up for so long was defunct! A business selling the product LCFC did 2004-2008 could not have survived because the product was worthless. Ultimately it comes down to what you would do in this situation... If it were me I'm not sure. I would like to think that in a situation such as that if I had enough money to be comfortable I wouldn't want to jeopardise something that means so much to so many people because one idiot was stupid enough to give me a piece of paper saying that I would be paid that much money. Impossible to say unless in that situation though...
DennisNedry Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 Money that he has contractually earnt? Sorry but I disagree. As already mentioned in the thread, its probably only a quarter or so of what he was owed anyway .If the clubs dish out the contracts, they need to deal with the fallout when the sh1t hits the fan. It gets to a point where money is no object. Nugent could happily live off the millions he has already earnt. I know people who work for small building companies who were owed thousands of pounds by Hallams builder of Oadby. Hallams went bust and guess what, there's no compensation for those companies. People get laid off and companies go bankrupt as a result. So yeah, forgive me for having no sympathy for Nuge. He's just greedy.
Jordan Posted 7 September 2013 Posted 7 September 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/feb/28/football-money-portsmouth-simon-kuper Simon Kuper is the man.
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